Republican U-Tube debate might go "down the tubes".

[Technosoul]

So far CNN has only found two Republican canadates that are willing to take part in a U-Tube debate such as the Democrats experienced.

The rest of them do not what to answer wild card questions that "average people" might ask. And one canadate said he is not going to answer questions from a snowman about global warming.

CNN did not report which Republican canadates do not want to answer questions submitted by the average voters. Nor which two have consented to the format.

So what does that tell us about the Republican people?

Will the U tube Repulican debate go 'down the tubes' ?

[Osborn F Enready]

Ron Paul will be there, if he is allowed to be there by the hosts.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Ron Paul will be there, if he is allowed to be there by the hosts.

He seems to be popular here at Volconvo because some of our members have really promoted him, but how does poll in larger polls accross the country?

I think the U-Tube debates can promote the popular stand of some of the lesser known canadates. I was impressed by some of the Democrats that spoke out at the last debate. Trouble is that right after the debate and in the days that followed CNN concentrated mostly only on what Hillary said, or what the other two so-called 'best fund raisers" said.
One canadate had to take the train and a bus to speak at the debate due to his poor "war chest" for his bid. While the rest arrived by jet.
And now fans of Paul also like him.

[Osborn F Enready]

Technosoul said: He seems to be popular here at Volconvo because some of our members have really promoted him, but how does poll in larger polls accross the country?

Depends on the polls. Many polls across the country are rigged, and don't even include Paul on the poll.

Many people don't know about Paul, because the major media is doing their best to completely fail to mention him, or talk about him or his issues, which are all well spoken and clearly eloquent, with respect to the Constitution.

Pauls lack of support is directly connected to his lack of media coverage, unlike any of the major canidates who aren't getting much public support.(McCain most notably)

Techno said: I think the U-Tube debates can promote the popular stand of some of the lesser known canadates.

I agree, but as they are starting out, its just more of the same thing we have had, with more interesting people asking the questions. The same people who picked the questions for the previous debates, picked the questions of the You-Tube debates, the sponsors and broadcasters.

Techno said: I was impressed by some of the Democrats that spoke out at the last debate.

I was too, mainly Gravel.

Techno said: Trouble is that right after the debate and in the days that followed CNN concentrated mostly only on what Hillary said, or what the other two so-called 'best fund raisers" said.

Exactly, so it's really not going to make much difference what the debates are like if the media is still going to be pushing the two-party monopoly of hand selected favorites.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Depends on the polls. Many polls across the country are rigged, and don't even include Paul on the poll. Many people don't know about Paul, because the major media is doing their best to completely fail to mention him, or talk about him or his issues, which are all well spoken and clearly eloquent, with respect to the Constitution. Pauls lack of support is directly connected to his lack of media coverage, unlike any of the major canidates who aren't getting much public support.(McCain most notably) I agree, but as they are starting out, its just more of the same thing we have had, with more interesting people asking the questions. The same people who picked the questions for the previous debates, picked the questions of the You-Tube debates, the sponsors and broadcasters. I was too, mainly Gravel. Exactly, so it's really not going to make much difference what the debates are like if the media is still going to be pushing the two-party monopoly of hand selected favorites.

yeah, like which canadates have the most money to spend on TV advertising during the pre-election battle.

[GodBlessAmerica]

I think the Republicans saw how silly the whole thing was.
Plus, with CNN's natural left wing Democrat loving tilt, you have to know there would be lots more videos set up to make Republicans look bad compared to what they did with the Democrats.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica I think the Republicans saw how silly the whole thing was. Plus, with CNN's natural left wing Democrat loving tilt, you have to know there would be lots more videos set up to make Republicans look bad compared to what they did with the Democrats.

I do not think CNN is "left wing" but rather that they are just reporting that nearly no one likes Bush anymore.

Everyone is fed up with the how the last Republican canadate, Bush Jr, has presented lies to start a unjustiifed war in Iraq, how he put into effect lots of bad rules about the environment, how he attempted to amend the Consitution on behalf of right wing religions, his blockage of much needed stem cell research, and how the first election was "fixed" to get him into office in the first place.

[The Decider]

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica I think the Republicans saw how silly the whole thing was. Plus, with CNN's natural left wing Democrat loving tilt, you have to know there would be lots more videos set up to make Republicans look bad compared to what they did with the Democrats.

Yep, it must be pay back for most Democratic candidates boycotting the recent Fox News debate in Nevada.

As of today, it will be McCain versus Paul on CNN/YouTube.

[Praxius]

Quote by: Technosoul So far CNN has only found two Republican canadates that are willing to take part in a U-Tube debate such as the Democrats experienced.

That's a big sign.... what? do they have something to hide or are they just that incompitent to answer questions on the fly? (And they're not even on the fly, they're pre-screened by CNN)

The rest of them do not what to answer wild card questions that "average people" might ask. And one canadate said he is not going to answer questions from a snowman about global warming.

Wow.... that's pretty dam ignorant!

CNN did not report which Republican canadates do not want to answer questions submitted by the average voters. Nor which two have consented to the format.

That should indeed be public information.... the public should have the VERY RIGHT to know which poloticians said what they said.... they are wanting to be voted in... they should stand by the words they say.... and if someone is going to want to be voted as the next president and act like some ignorant arse pucker before he even wins, then they don't deserve the chance.

So what does that tell us about the Republican people?

Facists Pigs!

Will the U tube Repulican debate go 'down the tubes' ?

Yup..... but they should know that if they don't do this.... that's a big blow to their support.... then again, what do they have to worry about? They'll just rig the election like they did with Bush/Gore and not worry about a thing for another 8 years.

Absolutely sickening these people have the chance to get into power.... people who just admitted that they don't care about what the average US Citizen cares about and trivializes it like they did by calling someone a Snowman for asking a question or actually caring about the enviroment.

The person who said that should be brought out publically and then resign.... or get fired.... this is a blaitent example of the government no longer caring about the people they love to send across the world to get blown up.... the people who fill their pockets.....

Just one more example of just how expendable the US society is to these people.... fokking sick!

[The Dunedan]

Bahahaha!! Ron Paul versus McCain? Not even a fair fight; Paul will leave McCain's guts on the floor. Ron Paul looks better every day, and this will only help.

I'm gonna need some popcorn for this one.

[Yarn]

The Democrats can stand Gravel's nutzy ramblings, but the Republicans can't stand Ron Paul's (and conspire to get him kicked out from the debates). The Democrats can stand being asked questions with character from obscure Americans, but the Republicans can't.

The Democratic party is more tolerant than the Republican party. Gee big suprise.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Praxius That's a big sign.... what? do they have something to hide or are they just that incompitent to answer questions on the fly? (And they're not even on the fly, they're pre-screened by CNN) Wow.... that's pretty dam ignorant! That should indeed be public information.... the public should have the VERY RIGHT to know which poloticians said what they said.... they are wanting to be voted in... they should stand by the words they say.... and if someone is going to want to be voted as the next president and act like some ignorant arse pucker before he even wins, then they don't deserve the chance. Facists Pigs! Yup..... but they should know that if they don't do this.... that's a big blow to their support.... then again, what do they have to worry about? They'll just rig the election like they did with Bush/Gore and not worry about a thing for another 8 years. Absolutely sickening these people have the chance to get into power.... people who just admitted that they don't care about what the average US Citizen cares about and trivializes it like they did by calling someone a Snowman for asking a question or actually caring about the enviroment. The person who said that should be brought out publically and then resign.... or get fired.... this is a blaitent example of the government no longer caring about the people they love to send across the world to get blown up.... the people who fill their pockets..... Just one more example of just how expendable the US society is to these people.... fokking sick!

An interesting side note is that most Republicans cannot raise any money to operate with, they would have to hitch hike to the debate.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Yarn The Democrats can stand Gravel's nutzy ramblings, but the Republicans can't stand Ron Paul's (and conspire to get him kicked out from the debates). The Democrats can stand being asked questions with character from obscure Americans, but the Republicans can't. The Democratic party is more tolerant than the Republican party. Gee big suprise.

That is true. Most U-Tube people would "fry" the republicans with their questions. I would wager that most of the questions would sound more like attacks then attempts at finding out information. After all, we all can see clearly what the Republicans have put into effect for the past years under Bush leadership, so why ask?

Now word about a special "3rd Party / Independants" debate being in the works.

None the less it would be interesting to see how differently the questions are worded and what topics would be asked about.

[Praxius]

Quote by: Technosoul An interesting side note is that most Republicans cannot raise any money to operate with, they would have to hitch hike to the debate.

Really? I'm sure past republicans were that poor as well, *Snickers*

The day I seen any polotician having to hitch hike, esspecially a republican, I'd finally see some justice in the world.

[Clarence]

Will the G.O.P. Say No to YouTube? - Yahoo! News

update.

The sequel to the self-styled "ground-breaking" YouTube debate on CNN may be history before it even begins. ADVERTISEMENT The Rudy Giuliani campaign has cited scheduling conflicts in saying it will skip the Republican version of this week's Democratic debate, while Mitt Romney has mocked the seriousness of the questions and also seems likely to withdraw. John McCain, one of two candidates who had agreed to participate (Ron Paul is the other), has also expressed doubts about the Democratic debate's level of decorum and aides say he may reconsider his commitment. Undeclared candidate Fred Thompson may still not officially be in the race by the event's Sept. 17 airdate. The Republicans' sudden aversion has political observers wondering whether abandoning an opportunity to participate in the fledging format shows a potentially costly reluctance to engage with voters or is simply an exercise in prudent message management.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Praxius Really? I'm sure past republicans were that poor as well, *Snickers* The day I seen any polotician having to hitch hike, esspecially a republican, I'd finally see some justice in the world.

Gravel said he had to take the bus to the U Tube debate and said it would be nice if Hilliary offered him a ride in her jet ( that is called trying to hitch a ride). And McCain is going broke trying to raise funds ( they do not want to use their own money ).

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Clarence Will the G.O.P. Say No to YouTube? - Yahoo! News update.

If they fear facing the nation then forget those guys, lets let in few 3rd party canadates and see what they have to offer? If they do not want to pake part in popular primary debates then they should not take part in the final presidential debates. Boo on the Bushniks.

[Praxius]

The Republicans' sudden aversion has political observers wondering whether abandoning an opportunity to participate in the fledging format shows a potentially costly reluctance to engage with voters or is simply an exercise in prudent message management.

I pick reluctance to engage with voters for $500 Alex.

Technosoul hit it on the noggen... they may not think it's a perfect format, but the people want it regardless.... and they should dam well pull down their pants and show that they got a pair if they want to be the leader of these people they don't have time to talk to......

Pardon my Quebec French, but if these so-called future leaders don't have the balls to answer tough questions from their own people, how the hell is anybody gonna have faith in them when they gotta deal with people outside of your country who have even less tollerance?

It's not a good idea to vote for someone who's stuck in their own little bubble, where they won't listen to their own people, let alone other countries around the world..... Does anybody need a case in point here?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Maybe the GOP Candidates have better things to do then answer questions from hand puppets? Or I know! "What do you like and dislike most about the person to your left children?"

That youtube debate wasn't just silly, it was pathetically silly. I don't blame them for not bothering with it. Why do a circus act?

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Maybe the GOP Candidates have better things to do then answer questions from hand puppets? Or I know! "What do you like and dislike most about the person to your left children?" That youtube debate wasn't just silly, it was pathetically silly. I don't blame them for not bothering with it. Why do a circus act?

I would agree that a least three questions were silly or presented in a odd way, that is totally the fault of CNN but on the other hand if people go to a lot of trouble to produce a short but creative question it means that the Utube generation is becoming interested in politics - and that is a positive step. This is partly about introducting younger people to the poltical arena and showing them that everyone has a chance to have a voice. On the other hand most of the questions were good ones global concerns and domestic topics of interest to regular people.

Our voice at the ballet box only counts a few times, we should expect canadates to answer questions from the voters rather then just the newsmen. Once elected a President cannot totally depend on polls for guideance because public opions can flip flop from side to side on topics because the polls can be manipulated. This is the one chance to help get an agenda we want for the next 4 years - by asking questions to make the canadates say what agenda they have on topics.

I wonder it a question using the terminology of tech messinging could be comprehended by a Ron Paul?