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Old Jul 25, 2007, 03:05 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Jimmy Carter: Father of the Iranian Revolution

Jimmy Carter: Father of the Iranian Revolution
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We just don't get it. The Left in America is screaming to high heaven that the mess we are in in Iraq and the war on terrorism has been caused by the right-wing and that George W. Bush, the so-called "dim-witted cowboy," has created the entire mess.

The truth is the entire nightmare can be traced back to the liberal democratic policies of the leftist Jimmy Carter, who created a firestorm that destabilized our greatest ally in the Muslim world, the shah of Iran, in favor of a religious fanatic, the ayatollah Khomeini.

Carter viewed Khomeini as more of a religious holy man in a grassroots revolution than a founding father of modern terrorism. Carter's ambassador to the UN, Andrew Young, said "Khomeini will eventually be hailed as a saint." Carter's Iranian ambassador, William Sullivan, said, "Khomeini is a Gandhi-like figure." Carter adviser James Bill proclaimed in a Newsweek interview on February 12, 1979 that: Khomeini was not a mad mujahid, but a man of "impeccable integrity and honesty."

The Shah was terrified of Carter. He told his personal confidant, "Who knows what sort of calamity he [Carter] may unleash on the world?"

Let's look at the results of Carter's misguided liberal policies: the Islamic Revolution in Iran; the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan (Carter's response was to boycott the 1980 Moscow Olympics); the birth of Osama bin Laden's terrorist organization; the Iran-Iraq War, which cost the lives of millions dead and wounded; and yes, the present war on terrorism and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Carter sure was a rotten President in every way. Who would have ever thought that Billy who was famous for peeing on runways would have ended up being the more productive brother.


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Old Jul 25, 2007, 03:13 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 03:46 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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On Sept. 23, 1979, the founder of Israeli intelligence over dinner told me that America was developing a tolerance for terror.
Yep, those particular Americans are called Democrats IMO who are more than willing to cause a genocide in Iraq and IMO some American soldiers dying if they can get political office and power.

I think if we had this same left bent 24 hour news channels and Democrats in WW2, we'd be speaking German or Japanese instead of English today.


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Old Jul 25, 2007, 03:58 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Nice try.

Khomeini is still the father of our nation. Every Iranian believes it.


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Old Jul 25, 2007, 04:28 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Nice try.

Khomeini is still the father of our nation. Every Iranian believes it.
He's the father of a woman beating child abusing cult IMO that keeps the people in a hate filled version of the 7th century.

The Iranians are major trouble makers around the world this moment.
I remember years back having a hand in turning a group of them locally over to our FBI when at a party they were boasting of the terror acts they were planning to execute. They WERE arrested and it made the news. A local Mosque was involved as well.

I think Iran has next, just a matter of time.

Iran is conducting proxy wars in other countries and being they won't stop the USA is now willing to the same thing back to Iran in spades, so look for lots of local Iranian unrest to continue.

The President of Iran seems to be a major dangerous fruitcake. Wonder how much longer before he causes outright war?


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Old Jul 25, 2007, 04:39 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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LOL, again back on Israel with a thread that doesn't have to do with Israel?

Come on now!
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 04:49 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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who mentioned iswael? this guy is a christian fundamentalist who is waiting for armageddon
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 04:51 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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He's the father of a woman beating child abusing cult IMO that keeps the people in a hate filled version of the 7th century.
LOL sources?

I think you are confusing Khomeini with Goebbel's comic books about Jewish men.

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The Iranians are major trouble makers around the world this moment.
I remember years back having a hand in turning a group of them locally over to our FBI when at a party they were boasting of the terror acts they were planning to execute. They WERE arrested and it made the news. A local Mosque was involved as well.
Judging an entire nation based on behaviours of few men?

Once again you proved how racist you truly are.

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I think Iran has next, just a matter of time.
Just try :)

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Iran is conducting proxy wars in other countries
Prove it.

Don't quote US intelligence, because up until now, they have been incapable of providing information that is intellectually sound.

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The President of Iran seems to be a major dangerous fruitcake. Wonder how much longer before he causes outright war?
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad studied civil engineering.

Unlike your stupid President, who claims to speak to God while sleeping. :):):)


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Old Jul 25, 2007, 04:53 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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who mentioned iswael? this guy is a Christian fundamentalist who is waiting for Armageddon
Every living generation in history seems to believe they are living in END TIMES.
Some day, one living generation will be right.


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Old Jul 25, 2007, 04:56 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Yea, I don't like or support Bush, but I thought it was pretty ignorant for Carter to be critical of any President. He has to rank near the top of bad Presidents!

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Productivity growth in the United States had declined to an average annual rate of 1 percent, compared to 3.2 percent of the 1960s. There was also a growing federal budget deficit which increased to 66 billion dollars. The 1970s are described as a period of stagflation, meaning economic stagnation coupled with price inflation, as well as higher interest rates. Price inflation (a rise in the general level of prices) creates uncertainty in budgeting and planning and makes labor strikes for pay raises more likely.
The economy suffered double-digit inflation, coupled with very high interest rates, oil shortages, high unemployment and slow economic growth.

Nationwide controls were put on thermostats in government and commercial buildings to prevent people from raising temperatures in the winter (above 65 degrees Fahrenheit) or lowering them in the summer (below 78 degrees Fahrenheit).
Price inflation caused interest rates to rise to unprecedented levels (above 12% per year). The prime rate hit 21.5% in December 1980, the highest rate in U.S. history under any President.[19] Investments in fixed income (both bonds and pensions being paid to retired people) were becoming less valuable.
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 04:59 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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the iranian government sucks just as much as the us government. authoritarian swine.

the only difference is the iranian government doesn't try to cloak their evil ways.
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 05:01 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Every living generation in history seems to believe they are living in END TIMES.
Some day, one living generation will be right.
Oh were living in the end times, can i have your car?
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 05:14 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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LOL sources?

I think you are confusing Khomeini with Goebbel's comic books about Jewish men.

Judging an entire nation based on behaviours of few men?

Once again you proved how racist you truly are.

Just try :)

Prove it.

Don't quote US intelligence, because up until now, they have been incapable of providing information that is intellectually sound.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad studied civil engineering.

Unlike your stupid President, who claims to speak to God while sleeping. :):):)
Here are some good sources for you to look into regarding Islam.
Jihad Watch
Islamic Child Abuse - Google Video
Middle-East-Info.org - Discrimination Against Women and Child Abuse in Arab states and Iran

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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad studied civil engineering.
Oh yeah, we can all tell. Dhimmi Watch: Iran: Death by stoning a 'wise measure'

And where is the world wide Islamic fatwa and jihad against radical Islam and Osama Bin Laden again?


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Old Jul 25, 2007, 05:19 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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the iranian government sucks just as much as the us government. authoritarian swine.

the only difference is the iranian government doesn't try to cloak their evil ways.
If you posted on the internet or made your views vocal in public in Iran you might be killed, in America you'd probably just be given a nice Che Guevara t-shirt.

In Iran you have government and religious oppression of freedom, women, thought.
In the USA you do not have that.


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Old Jul 25, 2007, 05:23 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Oh were living in the end times, can i have your car?
How about maybe a job instead?

I would agree with many here that people can go too far with religious views of end times. Makes me think of all the dead people with the Nike sneakers on who thought the last comet near earth featured alien UFO waiting to take their souls. Maybe they will have to settle for Satan.


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Old Jul 27, 2007, 06:02 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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In Iran you have government and religious oppression of freedom, women, thought.
In the USA you do not have that.
Then why USA passed the Patriot Act?

Why in American music, women are referred to as "bitches and whores"?

Why women are objectified and humiliated in American porn videos?

Why more women are raped in USA than Iran?

Technological advancement does not make a nation civilized. Your barbarian trash talk aimed at Islam and Iran only says something about yourself, that you are being a racist barbarian.


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Old Jul 29, 2007, 01:33 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Some of our urban minorities in the entertainment community were verbalizing that garbage and they don't get any sales doing it. No one is going to their concerts anymore and they are being slammed in the public

Women can do what they want to and if they want to be objectified in a porn video (not for me) but so far that is allowed.

Iran's culture is one where the women know they will be further victimized as the rapes are reported since the rapist will bring false witness against the woman to not only rape her, but to then jail her as she attempts to report the rape, so few rapes get reported.

There is nothing good about Iran these days.
I have had people from and in there talk to me about how radicalized it has become. They expect all kinds or war for them.

I don't respect Islam as I learned more about it. It IMO abuses women and children and the men are too prideful to grow up ethically from the 7th century.
(by the way, where is the Jihad and Fatwa against radical Islam and Osama Bin Laden all over the Islamic world?)


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Old Jul 29, 2007, 05:51 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Some of our urban minorities in the entertainment community were verbalizing that garbage and they don't get any sales doing it. No one is going to their concerts anymore and they are being slammed in the public
Urban minority entertainers verbalizing garbage? They don't sell?

Like who, 50 Cent? Snoop Dogg? Tupac?

I know you would now pull out the typical racist "Black music is mysogynistic" line. Well, the same goes for White musicians too.


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Women can do what they want to and if they want to be objectified in a porn video (not for me) but so far that is allowed.
So if a Capitalist society (USA) cannot provide equal employment opportunities for everyone, it becomes womens' fault?

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Iran's culture is one where the women know they will be further victimized as the rapes are reported since the rapist will bring false witness against the woman to not only rape her, but to then jail her as she attempts to report the rape, so few rapes get reported.
Rapes hardly even occur because rapists will be punished. What are you babbling about?

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There is nothing good about Iran these days.
I have had people from and in there talk to me about how radicalized it has become. They expect all kinds or war for them.
Well, I don't see anything radical happening. A democratically elected government is making policies that serves its people best. What's so radical about it?

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I don't respect Islam as I learned more about it.
I am not going to counter that statement by saying "I also hate American society". Because, Islam had taught me to be humble and peaceful.

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It IMO abuses women and children and the men are too prideful to grow up ethically from the 7th century.
Well... That's a lie since you have no evidence to prove it.

By the way, I have had people from and in there talk to me about how barbaric American society has become. They were telling me about that republican dude that molested a young boy.

So you support a child molester political party?:eek:


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Old Jul 29, 2007, 07:03 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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GodBlessAmerica you need to go back a little more than 30 years.
If you really care about how and why (and who "hint" cia) the Iraninan Revolution happened you should read about it.

CIA Clandestine Service History, "Overthrow of Premier Mossadeq of Iran,
November 1952-August 1953," March 1954, by Dr. Donald Wilber.

Electronic Briefing Book: The Secret CIA History of the Iran Coup

Or you can continue rant about urban minorities and other crap you know nothing about.
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Old Jul 29, 2007, 06:05 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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GodBlessAmerica you need to go back a little more than 30 years.
If you really care about how and why (and who "hint" cia) the Iraninan Revolution happened you should read about it.

CIA Clandestine Service History, "Overthrow of Premier Mossadeq of Iran,
November 1952-August 1953," March 1954, by Dr. Donald Wilber.

Electronic Briefing Book: The Secret CIA History of the Iran Coup

Or you can continue rant about urban minorities and other crap you know nothing about.

Yep. The Islamic fundamenatalist Khomeni was aggravated by the overthrow of a secular, communist admiring fellow Iranian.

Give me a break.
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