The Muslim Holocaust

[GHook93]

Unfortunately I believe its coming. Right after the next big terrorist attack on the West, especially if its a nuclear or biological attack, the West will shrike at 1.3 Billion Muslims in the world. You will see the Russian style pograms and mass-murder.

Terrorist violence only breeds fear and retaliatory violence. I can see both Pakistan and Iran get nuked back to the stoneage.

This is not what I desire, but I believe it inevitable. The West vs Islam is starting to boil over. In the US we don't protect our borders and ports and our enemies are relentless. Eventually a WMD will make it onto the shores of Manhattan. After that chaos will follow!

[tinybear]

Relax. It may not happen. :)

[arielmessenger]

There's limits to nuclear madness and madmen as the Cold War showed. Yes, a nuke could very well be set off in the U.S. to keep the FEAR going that propels the war effort/oil control money train for Neo-Cons but they aren't about to ruin their own countryside where they live. That's why the WTC were taken out with conventional explosives and not nuked. Not when Manhattan is home to millions of Jews.

[Ibn_Sina]

Quote by: GHook93 Unfortunately I believe its coming.

Yes, YOU believe; hardly a reliable assertion...

Right after the next big terrorist attack on the West, especially if its a nuclear or biological attack, the West will shrike at 1.3 Billion Muslims in the world.

Terrorist do not have nuclear weapons.

I can see both Pakistan and Iran get nuked back to the stoneage.

Pakistan is a US ally, it will never happen.

As for Iran, I can only laugh. :) Just try to nuke us, you are more than welcome!

This is not what I desire.

Then what makes you post such a childish thread?

The West vs Islam is starting to boil over.

"Clash of civilizations" is a Stupid phrase, in fact, more retarded than its creator Bernard Lewis. There are Muslims almost everywhere in the world. Homogenizing everyone like that is a merely racist ideology.

Our enemies are relentless.

There is no enemy... US media use it to brainwash its masses, so taxpayers keep on contributing to USA's Permanent War Economy. The math is simple.

[GHook93]

Quote by: tinybear Relax. It may not happen. :)

See if there is another large scale terrorist attack!

[GHook93]

Quote by: Ibn_Sina Yes, YOU believe; hardly a reliable assertion...

As are your on Iran is the mother of all civilizations

Terrorist do not have nuclear weapons.

Not yet, otherwised they would have used them.

Pakistan is a US ally, it will never happen.

The Pakistan government is our allie, but many many of the Pakstani people are not. The Mushraf government is faltering. They already sold nuclear secrets to terrorist, it is only a matter of time a nuke goes missing.

As for Iran, I can only laugh. :) Just try to nuke us, you are more than welcome!

Laugh all you want, but if America wants to wipe Iran off the face of the earth it can do it over-night.

Then what makes you post such a childish thread?

Because I don't desire this. I have grown up with Arabs my whole life. One of my best friends, an American Iraqi Muslim, is serving on another tour in Iraq.

There is no enemy... US media use it to brainwash its masses, so taxpayers keep on contributing to USA's Permanent War Economy. The math is simple

LOL, call the US media constantly drives more and more people away from the war effort. less than a quarter of Americans support the war.

And there is an enemy and they are a huge threat to Americans.

[tinybear]

Quote by: GHook93 See if there is another large scale terrorist attack!

Gee, I hope not 'cos I'm coming home for the summer.

[Ibn_Sina]

Quote by: GHook93 As are your on Iran is the mother of all civilizations

Thank you.

They already sold nuclear secrets to terrorist, it is only a matter of time a nuke goes missing.

No, they or Pakistan did not. The nuclear scientist sold it on a personal capacity.

Laugh all you want, but if America wants to wipe Iran off the face of the earth it can do it over-night.

You could only win in places like Grenada, Panama, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Afghanistan (although rebels are still fighting) etc. They are hardly known as great military nations... LOL :)

Despite all the weaponry and military supremacy, Vietnamese peasants humiliated US army.

Little Cuba is still independent.

War in Iraq is a complete failure...

Still dreaming of nuking Iran? Will be a nightmare in reality. Yes, you are superior in terms of ammunitions but your military men? Truly hilarious. They often tend to "lose control because they miss home" and pick on innocents plus torture prisoners. Fools are hardly a match for Iranian Revolutionary Guards...

Because I don't desire this. I have grown up with Arabs my whole life.

Sure thing, we believe you.

One of my best friends, an American Iraqi Muslim, is serving on another tour in Iraq.

Irrelevant information.

LOL, call the US media constantly drives more and more people away from the war effort. less than a quarter of Americans support the war.

That's because USA is losing the war...

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: Ibn_Sina You could only win in places like Grenada, Panama, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Afghanistan (although rebels are still fighting) etc. They are hardly known as great military nations... LOL Despite all the weaponry and military supremacy, Vietnamese peasants humiliated US army. Little Cuba is still independent. War in Iraq is a complete failure... Still dreaming of nuking Iran?

I'm a little rusty on my history, but when were nukes used in any of these conflicts?

[Ibn_Sina]

Quote by: Chaossaber314 I'm a little rusty on my history, but when were nukes used in any of these conflicts?

Ok, they weren't used. Yet, given the military advantage, any one would consider them as failures. I mean... If you can't even defeat a peasant army with all the fancy fighter jets at your disposal, thinking of defeating Iran would be ridiculous.

[Chaossaber314]

Because they didn't wish to totally annihilate these peasants and their families and those around them, etc.

It really wouldn't take much for the US to completely destroy any one of these countries. Iran is no different. If there was the desire to completely eliminate Iran, it would be gone.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Ibn_Sina Thank you. No, they or Pakistan did not. The nuclear scientist sold it on a personal capacity. ...

Hence it was a leaked from Pakistan,

You could only win in places like Grenada, Panama, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Afghanistan (although rebels are still fighting) etc. They are hardly known as great military nations... LOL :) Despite all the weaponry and military supremacy, Vietnamese peasants humiliated US army. Little Cuba is still independent. War in Iraq is a complete failure...

The wars you are talking about are nation building wars. Those are always failures. If we go to war with Iran it will be the old style WW I, WW II, Desert Storm war. We declare war on the whole nation. He don't go into your country to nation build.

Still dreaming of nuking Iran? Will be a nightmare in reality. Yes, you are superior in terms of ammunitions but your military men? Truly hilarious.

Not a dream of mine! Don't put words in my mouth!

They often tend to "lose control because they miss home" and pick on innocents plus torture prisoners. Fools are hardly a match for Iranian Revolutionary Guards...

Will they be an effective as Sadam's Army in Desert Storm? That is what a war between the US and Iran would be like.

Iran would crumble in months.

That's because USA is losing the war

That is because its a nation building war, those are destine to fail from the begining.

[Ibn_Sina]

Quote by: GHook93 The wars you are talking about are nation building wars. Those are always failures. If we go to war with Iran it will be the old style WW I, WW II, Desert Storm war. We declare war on the whole nation. He don't go into your country to nation build.

Wrong again...

WWII style war would never happen in Iran and I can assure you about that. As far as I know, Iran provides oil to Russia as well as China. Thus, USA would never try that.

Will they be an effective as Sadam's Army in Desert Storm? That is what a war between the US and Iran would be like.

Saddam's army was the fourth biggest in the world (in terms of numbers), but quite pathetic in my understanding. They fought for their dictator, not for the pride of their nation, their history, and their motherland.

Iran would crumble in months.

That can only happen when there is a brutal sanction on Iran, and if Tehran becomes another Hisroshima. It's too far-fetched.. If its just a war between the two armies, don't count your soldiers. All I see is their moms crying for them in front of some huge building in USA and they tell CNN reps how much they hate being in Iraq and miss McDonalds... Game makers should also put those stuff on Desert storm video games too. LOL

That is because its a nation building war, those are destine to fail from the begining.

There is no such thing as "nation biulding war". It's called mass-murder to keep your own economy going.

[jose]

:):)

[The Decider]

Quote by: GHook93 The wars you are talking about are nation building wars. Those are always failures. If we go to war with Iran it will be the old style WW I, WW II, Desert Storm war. We declare war on the whole nation. He don't go into your country to nation build.

WWI left much of Europe in rubble and destitute and ripe for another war.

WWII was a "nation building" war. Read about the Marshall Plan.

[Ibn_Sina]

Marshal Plan was not about nation building, it was about creating markets for American goods. Russians called it "dollar diplomacy" and they weren't wrong at all.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Ibn_Sina Marshal Plan was not about nation building, it was about creating markets for American goods. Russians called it "dollar diplomacy" and they weren't wrong at all.

Perhaps, but robust markets need robust nation-states; nation-states rebuilt with the help of the Marshall Plan.

[GHook93]

Quote by: The Decider WWI left much of Europe in rubble and destitute and ripe for another war. WWII was a "nation building" war. Read about the Marshall Plan.

The Marshall Plan came into effect after we completely destroyed the whole country. This wasn't the same with Iraq or Vietnam.

[The Decider]

Quote by: GHook93 The Marshall Plan came into effect after we completely destroyed the whole country. This wasn't the same with Iraq or Vietnam.

Vietnam had more ordinance dropped on it than all the nations involved in WWII combined. If we didn't completely destroy Vietnam, it was not for lack of trying.

In any case, "nation building" has been part of every American war since WWI, whether begun during the war or after.

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[GodBlessAmerica]

Quote by: GHook93 Unfortunately I believe its coming. Right after the next big terrorist attack on the West, especially if its a nuclear or biological attack, the West will shrike at 1.3 Billion Muslims in the world. You will see the Russian style pograms and mass-murder. Terrorist violence only breeds fear and retaliatory violence. I can see both Pakistan and Iran get nuked back to the stoneage. This is not what I desire, but I believe it inevitable. The West vs Islam is starting to boil over. In the US we don't protect our borders and ports and our enemies are relentless. Eventually a WMD will make it onto the shores of Manhattan. After that chaos will follow!

Where is the Jihad and Fatwa from Muslim world wide against Osama Bin Laden, the radical madrases and radical Islam?

Most all Muslims should be shouting against radical Islam.

Speaking out world wide would do the world good IMO.