Ethnic cleansing in Syria: The unseen terror

[shrike]

While the world's attention is focused on the war in Iraq, the internal Palestinian strife, the Israeli-Hamas confrontation in Gaza and the clashes between the Lebanese army and Syrian supported Fatah al-Islam, scant attention has been paid to developments inside Syria. The regime of Bashar Assad has used this opportunity to re-launch the campaign of ethnic cleansing in the Kurdish region of Hasakah. The Syrian press, controlled by the regime, prevents access to the foreign press, and the abuses of the Kurds have gone practically unreported. News of the ethnic cleansing is arriving almost exclusively through letters and faxes from persecuted Kurds. The champion of pan-Arabism, Egypt's former president Gamal Abdel Nasser, was the first to consider the Arabization of Hasakah when he led the United Arab Republic (UAR), a merger between Syria and Egypt that lasted from 1958 to 1961. In 1959, the UAR began to settle Arabs in the Derrick area, located on the west bank of the Tigris River. Nasser had hopes of transferring 1.5 million landless Egyptians to Hasakah and managed to establish at least two villages populated by Egyptians. Kurdish Media

Well it seems no one care about that.I wonder why?

[Mia]

Shrike, you're always saying (and I agree) that we can't use sources like poorpalestinians.com or zionistpropaganda.com, but here you're quoting from Kurdish News.

[PatrickHenry]

Really concerned about justice in other people's country, but can't see the injustice in your own criminal nation of Israel, shrike.

[jose]

check out the writer ¨joseph puder¨ on google
a neocon writing about syria from his home

¨The unseen terror¨ LOL

[shrike]

MIA I see people like Jose and PH post everyday from biased sources.
Do you think that this report not true?

[GHook93]

Quote by: shrike Well it seems no one care about that.I wonder why?

Because the Jews are involved! This is similar to why nothing is being done in Danfur!

[GHook93]

Quote by: PatrickHenry Really concerned about justice in other people's country, but can't see the injustice in your own criminal nation of Israel, shrike.

For once it is not about Israel, why not try to stick to that. It might hurt your campaign against the Jews; however, the topic is on Syria, try to stick to it. There are about 10 diffferent bash the Jews threads going on right now, why not go to one of them if you want to talk about Israel.

[PatrickHenry]

I have nothing against Jews, GHook. Aren't you wise enough to understand that yet?

I noticed that an Israeli member (who defends his nation's record in ethnic cleansing of the native population from the territory) is finding fault with a nearby nation's treatment of its minority. And I found that there is a disconnect between his topic and his criminal nation's own enterprise. See, justice is an actual concept that applies across the board. Israelis are not exempt from being held to the standards of justice.

Why do you keep saying "Jew" when I say Israeli?

[GHook93]

Quote by: PatrickHenry I have nothing against Jews, GHook. Aren't you wise enough to understand that yet? I noticed that an Israeli member (who defends his nation's record in ethnic cleansing of the native population from the territory) is finding fault with a nearby nation's treatment of its minority. And I found that there is a disconnect between his topic and his criminal nation's own enterprise. See, justice is an actual concept that applies across the board. Israelis are not exempt from being held to the standards of justice. Why do you keep saying "Jew" when I say Israeli?

When there is a thread about Israeli corruption I don't start the argument by stating what Syria or Lebanon do.

The reason I say Jews is I believe you don't see a different between Jews and Israeli, but try to cloak it in an anti-zionist or anti-Israel stance.

Answer this: By bring Israel into the conversation are you trying to state that Syria is a model for human rights?

[shrike]

Quote by: PH I noticed that an Israeli member (who defends his nation's record in ethnic cleansing of the native population from the territory) is finding fault with a nearby nation's treatment of its minority. And I found that there is a disconnect between his topic and his criminal nation's own enterprise. See, justice is an actual concept that applies across the board. Israelis are not exempt from being held to the standards of justice.

Its classical ad hom fallacy because it has nothing to do with argument presented.
So does any one have anything to say about Kurds in Syria and why world media don't care about it?

[GHook93]

Quote by: jose check out the writer ¨joseph puder¨ on google a neocon writing about syria from his home ¨The unseen terror¨ LOL

Jose,

I thought you were a champion of the people. :confused: Are you going to deny that the Kurds have been a very suppressed people? Just as the Jews need a homeland of their own free of persecution, so do the Kurds. They have been abused by the Turks, Iranians, Syrians and Iraqis. I see its not Jews who are suppressing the Kurds so in your eyes its OK.

[Ibn_Sina]

The Kurds have always been an unfortunate group of people and they do need a home of their own.

But shrike, I suppose the oppression Kurds face (which they do) is NOTHING compared to the treatment of Palestinians... You simply can't compare.

[shrike]

But shrike, I suppose the oppression Kurds face (which they do) is NOTHING compared to the treatment of Palestinians... You simply can't compare.

Please no straw-man and red-herring .Where did I compare the treatment of Kurds with anything,

[Ibn_Sina]

You didn't. What I meant to say is, you should be more concerned with human rights violations taking place in your own backyard than trying to understand the Kurdish problem.

You and GHook93 are also using double standards here...

Turkey has stationed its troops in the border of Iraq because Kurds have supposedly attacked her. Where is your insurgency outcry now? Kurds are in your good books all over sudden?

[Mia]

Quote by: shrike MIA I see people like Jose and PH post everyday from biased sources. Do you think that this report not true?

When you see a biased source, you will repeatedly post that it is so, and therefore irrelevant. I thought it ironic that you don't mid using biased sources yourself.

As to whether it's true - I've no idea. Syria is not a bastion of free press, so I wouldn't consider their reports to be the whole truth, and I think that the Kurdish News is also biased.

Ethnic Cleansing sounds a bit exaggerated, if not a lot. I wouldn't find mistreatment difficult to believe, minorities are often mistreated all over the world, but I just don't have enough information to go on either way.

[jose]

The Iraqi government said Turkish artillery and warplanes bombarded areas of northern Iraq on Wednesday and called on Turkey to stop military operations and resort to dialogue.

Last week, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said Turkey had massed 140,000 soldiers along the border

Turkey bombards northern Iraq, Iraq says - Yahoo! News

[Mia]

That is another point that I forgot to bring up.....in the issue of Kurds, everything I have read says that Syria is the least of their problems compared to the other bordering nations.

I do think that lends some credence, Shrike, to the theory that you are only choosing nations that are against Israel to levy any type of complaint on.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Ibn_Sina The Kurds have always been an unfortunate group of people and they do need a home of their own. But shrike, I suppose the oppression Kurds face (which they do) is NOTHING compared to the treatment of Palestinians... You simply can't compare.

Also the suppression that the Kurds and Palestinians have faced is nothing to what the Jews have faced. And what is happening to the Palestinians is pretty much brough on by themselves.

[GHook93]

Quote by: jose Turkey bombards northern Iraq, Iraq says - Yahoo! News

Thank you, finaly don't have to turn every topic onto Israel

[Ibn_Sina]

Quote by: GHook93 Also the suppression that the Kurds and Palestinians have faced is nothing to what the Jews have faced.

What did the Jews face?