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Old Aug 22, 2007, 03:17 pm   #401 (permalink)
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Jew hate threads?

Writing about Isreal's misguided and hateful policies doesn't constitute Jew hate.

Unless concern for Iranian policy is Persian hate...

And finding fault with Uncle Sam is America Hate...


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Old Aug 22, 2007, 03:25 pm   #402 (permalink)
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Unless concern for Iranian policy is Persian hate...
But if you against existance of Persian state does it constitute hate of Persians?
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 03:40 pm   #403 (permalink)
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But if you against existance of Persian state does it constitute hate of Persians?
Well let's look at it this way, shrike.

The 2002 policy in Washington DC was regime change in Iraq. Is that Iraqi hate?

Not ethnic cleansing so that an occupier/colonist can take over. That IS hate. But a policy that the government is illegitimate? I don't figure that as hate. Do you?

Regime change in Jerusalem!!!
See? It's not Jew hate...


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Old Aug 22, 2007, 03:53 pm   #404 (permalink)
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The 2002 policy in Washington DC was regime change in Iraq. Is that Iraqi hate?
Did you talk about regime change ?No ,for example if I think that in current terretorry of a Persian state should a Kurdistan and Persian state shouldnt exist?Do I hate Persians?
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 03:55 pm   #405 (permalink)
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Regime change in Jerusalem!!!
See? It's not Jew hate...
I totally agree with you.The current leftist goverment will fall soon.
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 04:15 pm   #406 (permalink)
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Jew hate threads?

Writing about Isreal's misguided and hateful policies doesn't constitute Jew hate.

Unless concern for Iranian policy is Persian hate...

And finding fault with Uncle Sam is America Hate...
Patrick - It's okay to be a Jew hater. There is no law against it. Be proud of what you are. I just think Jew Hate discussions are very boring, that's all.
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 05:00 pm   #407 (permalink)
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Jew hate threads?

Writing about Isreal's misguided and hateful policies doesn't constitute Jew hate.
Most anti-semites mask their hatred in anti-Israel/Zionism! :rolleyes:
You know this better than most

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Unless concern for Iranian policy is Persian hate...
Judism is a religion and Persian is a nationality. Besides there is not a long and extended history of Persian persecution. They have never been strip of their Country, like Jews have. Yet you would deny them that.

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You definitely fall into that category!
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 05:03 pm   #408 (permalink)
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Well let's look at it this way, shrike.

The 2002 policy in Washington DC was regime change in Iraq. Is that Iraqi hate?

Not ethnic cleansing so that an occupier/colonist can take over. That IS hate. But a policy that the government is illegitimate? I don't figure that as hate. Do you?

Regime change in Jerusalem!!!
See? It's not Jew hate...
You can try to rationalize your hatred of Jews any which way you wany, but I think Billy-Bob got your number correctly! :)
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 05:19 pm   #409 (permalink)
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You can try to rationalize your hatred of Jews any which way you wany, but I think Billy-Bob got your number correctly! :)
GHook - Volconvo just got mad at me for calling this a Jew Hate Thread. They know they have allowed this rubbish to drag on and on. Yet they closed my thread that contained 100% FACTS that can be proven. Would you say Volconvo has an agenda?
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 05:26 pm   #410 (permalink)
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 08:17 pm   #411 (permalink)
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Most anti-semites mask their hatred in anti-Israel/Zionism! :rolleyes:
You know this better than most


Judism is a religion and Persian is a nationality. Besides there is not a long and extended history of Persian persecution. They have never been strip of their Country, like Jews have. Yet you would deny them that.


You definitely fall into that category!
HOOKIE--- -- There is a difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism; I think the real problem is not that anti-Zionists are necessarily anti-Semites. It is that Zionists are anti-everything and everyone who refuse to submit to their never ending quest to dominate and overpower that which they want or that which is not rightfully theirs. Anti-Semitism is one thing and anti-Zionism is another. I think the world is getting tired of that accusation.
The fact that Persians have never been stripped of their country is neither here nor there neither. The issue is whether or not persecuting or driving a people from their homeland is justified. If it is something that would not be right for one, then it is something that is not right to to do another. There can't be one standard of the occupiers of Palestine and another for the Palestinian people.
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 09:27 pm   #412 (permalink)
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And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. The JEW HATE THREAD just keeps going.
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 11:11 pm   #413 (permalink)
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And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. The JEW HATE THREAD just keeps going.
I'm fine with Jews. I find idiots a bit wearisome...


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Old Aug 22, 2007, 11:25 pm   #414 (permalink)
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HOOKIE--- -- There is a difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.
While I don't think this is a "Jew Hate" thread, I do think quotes like the one's below from arielmessenger and jose cross the line into anti-semitism:

arielmessenger: "Zionists are willing to kill people to protect the Jewish [religion's] lies."

Israel: The Most Racist Illegal Nation.


jose: "holohoax" (ie The Holocaust was a Jewish hoax)

Israel: The Most Racist Illegal Nation.


These are extreme examples, but they can be found on this thread (and others), unfortunately. I hope the more vocal anti-Zionists here don't share those views. As Bob correctly said, one can criticize Israel without attacking an entire world religion, ethnicity, and history. That should apply to Judaism AND Islam (for you strong pro-Israel supporters).
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 02:03 am   #415 (permalink)
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arielmessenger: "Zionists are willing to kill people to protect the Jewish [religion'

I am a man of God and I stand behind this statement 100% because it is the truth.

The story of Abraham is a lie. The story of Moses and the Exodus is a lie. The tales of a Greater Israel under David and Solomon are lies. That Palestine was "empty" when Ashkenazi European Jewish converts started coming back to Palestine at the beginning of the Zionist movement is a lie. That Israel is a "legal" nation is a lie. That Israel is a democracy is a lie. That Israel does not negatively influence U.S foreign policy in the Middle East is a lie. That Ashkenazis are "Semites" is a lie. That the label "anti-Semitism" when used against anti-Zionist critics is a lie.

Zionists who support Israel are willing to kill people to protect the Jewish liars club, the Zionist Jewish Cult of European Jewish converts claiming to be Semites with ancestral ties to the land of ancient Israel. It's religious immorality at its most narcissistic and brutal manifestation and it has no place in the modern world.
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 02:37 am   #416 (permalink)
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I am a man of God and I stand behind this statement 100% because it is the truth.

The story of Abraham is a lie. The story of Moses and the Exodus is a lie. The tales of a Greater Israel under David and Solomon are lies. That Palestine was "empty" when Ashkenazi European Jewish converts started coming back to Palestine at the beginning of the Zionist movement is a lie. That Israel is a "legal" nation is a lie. That Israel is a democracy is a lie. That Israel does not negatively influence U.S foreign policy in the Middle East is a lie. That Ashkenazis are "Semites" is a lie. That the label "anti-Semitism" when used against anti-Zionist critics is a lie.

Zionists who support Israel are willing to kill people to protect the Jewish liars club, the Zionist Jewish Cult of European Jewish converts claiming to be Semites with ancestral ties to the land of ancient Israel. It's religious immorality at its most narcissistic and brutal manifestation and it has no place in the modern world.
Thank you, Dear Prophet. You made my case in the most eloquent fashion possible--your own damning words.
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 03:58 am   #417 (permalink)
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While I don't think this is a "Jew Hate" thread, I do think quotes like the one's below from arielmessenger and jose cross the line into anti-semitism:

arielmessenger: "Zionists are willing to kill people to protect the Jewish [religion's] lies."

Israel: The Most Racist Illegal Nation.


jose: "holohoax" (ie The Holocaust was a Jewish hoax)

Israel: The Most Racist Illegal Nation.


These are extreme examples
Extreme examples? how about contrived, edited misquotes
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post a link where i called for a 2nd holohoax
but instead of posting a link(because there isn't one) you post your warped interpretation
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 09:30 am   #418 (permalink)
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Thank you, Dear Prophet. You made my case in the most eloquent fashion possible--your own damning words.
Prove me wrong. I challenge you to prove me wrong. I challenge you to show reasons why Israeli archeologists themselves say what I am saying about the truth of Jewish myths of origin.

I've only listed a few of the major religious lies the Liar's Cult has produced since they created the Torah, Tanakh stories. With so many religious lies, and in the last century and a half so many political lies, nothing the Liar's Cult says can be taken without immediate suspicion of manipulated information. Story-tellers are essentially liars and that's what the Liar's Club is the best in the world at. Hollywood was and is the natural mecca for the Liar's Cult members..
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 10:02 am   #419 (permalink)
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Saudi Arabria I believe Edges Israel on Racism

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Banned: 'Bibles, crucifixes, statues and the Star of David'

Saudi Arabian Airlines declares on its English-language Web site that the kingdom bans "Bibles, crucifixes, statues, carvings, items with religious symbols such as the Star of David." Until the Saudi government changes this detestable policy, I say its airline should be barred from flying into Western airports.

Michael Freund focused attention to this regulation in a recent Jerusalem Post article, "Saudis might take Bibles from tourists," in which he pointed out that a section on the SAA Web site, "Customs Regulations," lists the disapproved articles above under the rubric "Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam."

Freund followed up by calling the SAA office in New York, where "Gladys" confirmed that this rule really is applied. "Yes, sir, that is what we have heard, that it is a problem to bring these things into Saudi Arabia, so you cannot do it."

An unnamed official at the Saudi consulate in New York further confirmed the regulation. "You are not allowed to bring that stuff into the kingdom. If you do, they will take it away. If it is really important to you, then you can try to bring it and just see what happens, but I don't recommend that you do so."

RESPONDING to the Saudi ban on churches and Bibles and Stars of David, some would ban mosques, Korans and crescent moons in the West, but that is clearly untenable and unenforceable, given the freedoms of speech and worship. The Koran, for example, is not a Saudi artifact and cannot be held hostage to Saudi policies. However closely it identifies with Islam, the Saudi government does not own the religion.

Further, as Stephen Schwartz of the Center for Islamic Pluralism points out, signs in Saudi airports warn Muslim travelers that the airport's mutawwa'in (religious police) confiscate Korans, other Islamic literature and Muslim objects of non-Saudi origin.

While discriminating specifically against Shi'ites and Ahmadis, this policy manifests a broader insistence on Wahhabi supremacism. More broadly, the Saudi leadership runs a country that the US government has repeatedly condemned as having "no religious freedom" and being among the most religiously repressive in the world.
Confront Saudi Arabia | Jerusalem Post

Come on Ibn. I want you to state how Israel is worse here!
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 02:45 pm   #420 (permalink)
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Here is but one tiny example of how Israelis are worse

Here is Israeli genocide of Palestinian society in action. Watch how IDF do the genocidal work of dismantling Palestinian livelihoods and therefore, lives.

YouTube - Shame of Ertas 20.5.07

The Zionists do not want to own up to their hideous lapse of moral integrity so they direct everyone to "Them", the other guys, they're always worse, they are evil, we are good, and let us destroy their land and lives so we good Israelis from Europe and America can have the evil Palestinians land.

Look now at evil Palestinians and how good Israeli soldiers are helping them get over themselves and lie down and take it or else..
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