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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:26 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Anyone could write anything on Internet.Bring original documents of this sources so we could check it out.
Unfortunately, I do not live in cyberspace and thus I cannot show you the "original".


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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:26 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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You can bring this up as many times as you want that doesn't change the fact that its NOT TRUE and is mindless propaganda!
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:31 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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There is a difference between facts and blatant hate speeches.
I didn't see you bring any facts. And you still didn’t explained "Please explain what writing on the missiles intended to hit terrorist have to do with racism?"
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Did you see them jumping while looking at 9/11 on TV or simply jumping
There were jumping because of 9/11
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Reports and images of Palestinians from East Jerusalem and the West Bank taking to the streets in jubilation, chanting 'Allāhu Akbar' (God is (the) greatest), passing along sweets in praise of Bin Laden (The US primary suspect[2]), honking car horns, holding up the V sign for victory and holding up Palestinian flags were broadcast around the world and most American networks, aired the images. In addition, many newspapers, magazines, Web sites and wire services ran photographs of the festivities.[3][4][5]

On the day of the attacks, The Times (British) and Fox News (American) reported that 3,000 celebrants were pouring into the streets of Nablus and dozens of people were celebrating in the traditional gesture of handing out sweets. The Times notes that in traditionally Arab East Jerusalem, there was a smaller gathering of about two dozen people. FOX News adds that in Ein el-Hilweh (Lebanon), where about 75,000 Palestinians live, and also in Rashidiyeh camp south of Tyre, revelers fired weapons in the air.[6]

The Times also writes that Nawal Abdel Fatah, a Palestinian woman (age 48) wearing a long black dress, was quoted saying she was happy because "America is the head of the snake, America always stands by Israel in its war against us". Her daughter Maysoon (age 22), expressed hopes that]the next attack would be against Tel Aviv.[7][8]
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What about the use of one million (which UN banned) cluster bombs on Lebanese children?
Source to this. As I far as i know cluster bombs are tottaly legal.
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Your argument doesn't justify genocide that took place in Lebanon.
What genocide?
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:32 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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Unfortunately, I do not live in cyberspace and thus I cannot show you the "original".
SO we have no way to know whatever this quoutes are true.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:33 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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You can bring this up as many times as you want that doesn't change the fact that its NOT TRUE and is mindless propaganda!
Bad way to defend yourself :) Throwing such terms ("mindless propaganda") will hardly refute that.


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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:34 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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SO we have no way to know whatever this quoutes are true.
Be honest now, didn't you ever visit a library? The place where books are kept?


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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:35 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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Bad way to defend yourself Throwing such terms ("mindless propaganda") will hardly refute that.
It is coming from partisan source and was refuted many times
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:36 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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What about the use of one million (which UN banned) cluster bombs on Lebanese children? Your argument doesn't justify genocide that took place in Lebanon.
The IDF didn't and doesn't target civilians in the Lebanese war. They targetted the cowardly Hezbollah fighters that purposely hide behind innocent Lebanese civilians. They do this to win the PR battle, because the more civilian causalities the better. Israel dropped leaflets in areas to let the civilians no to move out. What did Hezbollah do when they shot missiles into Israel?\

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(which UN banned)
Now your stating what the UN wishes are! LOL, what is the UN ideas on Iran building a nuke? They are highly and truely against. America might go to war with Iran over it. Yet your defiance of the UN is OK.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:38 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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There were jumping because of 9/11
Your proof? I think you forgot to read what was below that wikipedia article. Here is it...


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Palestinian children, reportedly celebrating the September 11 attacks.There was an urban legend that the footage of some Palestinians celebrating the attacks was rebroadcast footage of Palestinian reactions to the invasion of Kuwait, a decade prior to 2001.[11] This rumor was proven false shortly afterwards,[12] and CNN issued a statment to that fact.[13]

Annette Krüger Spitta of German public TV magazine Panorama claimed that while the footage was indeed correctly dated, reporters may have partly staged one of the scenes and that viewers should keep some distance from what is spread by journalists on images of conflict. The German weekly Der Spiegel repeated this news report and noted about the mistaken circulation that the footage was from 1991.[11]

The Panorama report from September 20, 2001 has Medium Professor Martin Löffelholz explaining that in the images you see jubilant Palestinian children and several adults but it is impossible to know if they are neccesarily pleased about the attack reports; and he does not assume this and ignores the way it has been reported.

Krüger Spitta notes that inspection of the untelecasted complete tape shows the street around the celebration is quiet and a man in a white T-shirt is noticable for inciting the children and is fetching new people again and again. The woman who is remembered for her cheering (Nowel Abdel Fatah[8]) stated today that she was offered cake if she celebrates on camera, and that she was frightened when she saw the pictures on television and that she never expected it would be noticed to the USA.

Krüger Spitta expresses that it is impossible to know if these images -- which were wildly sent worldwide under the title: Palestinians celebrate in Jerusalem -- are truth or a production and that, as Proffesor Löffelholz says, in crises and war situations a due portion of distance should be kept from what is spread by journalists who sometime make errors.

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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:40 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
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Now your stating what the UN wishes are! LOL, what is the UN ideas on Iran building a nuke? They are highly and truely against. America might go to war with Iran over it. Yet your defiance of the UN is OK.
This debate will go on forever... until you understand that civilian nuclear energy is not called "nuclear weapons".


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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:43 pm   #31 (permalink) (top)
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Dont you get tired of you fake quotes.
His quotes are not "fake". If you cared to notice, they are properly cited and easily googled so I would suggest doing that before speaking.

Now, after checking the sources I am shocked and sickened to say that-- wow.

Are you familiar with the term racism? If you aren't, I'd look it up. If these pictures and those CITED quotes aren't enough for you to realize that this is what exactly what's going on, God help us.

Isreal has gone unchecked for decades, (1) being helped along with their military by the leviathan US army and government, (2) ignoring the UN and just basically disregarding the International Declaration of Human Rights, I'd say Isreal needs to get a spanking.

And yes, the fact that they can and do do all of this DOES make them one of the most racist nations.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:43 pm   #32 (permalink) (top)
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It some speculation by some unknown German folk.Anyway its not just about the pictures there is a reports around of Middle east about joyful Muslims
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:43 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
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Bad way to defend yourself :) Throwing such terms ("mindless propaganda") will hardly refute that.
The reason I put it this way is because it has been debate and disproven countless times on volconvo.
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:44 pm   #35 (permalink) (top)
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You can bring this up as many times as you want that doesn't change the fact that its NOT TRUE and is mindless propaganda!
got any proof? it happened, they got cought, but were let off by the dual American/Israeli Chertoff
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:47 pm   #36 (permalink) (top)
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got any proof? it happened, they got cought, but were let off by the dual American/Israeli Chertoff
Proof to what?Posting your propaganda sources prove nothing
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:48 pm   #37 (permalink) (top)
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His quotes are not "fake". If you cared to notice, they are properly cited and easily googled so I would suggest doing that before speaking.

Now, after checking the sources I am shocked and sickened to say that-- wow.
Did you actully looked in The Koenig Memorandum .Do you read Hebrew?
Or maybe you read speach by Begin?
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:49 pm   #38 (permalink) (top)
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What's your point Shrike?
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:50 pm   #39 (permalink) (top)
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Exactly. Well.. I doubt racist Israel knows what's the meaning of Human Rights Violations. Human Rights do NOT apply to Israeli Arabs or Palestinians.


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Old Jul 12, 2007, 04:52 pm   #40 (permalink) (top)
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What's your point Shrike?
My point that anyone could write anything on Internet and make out many thing that not nessasary true.
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