Al Qaeda declares WAR--> on IRAN

[thx1138]

how do our soldiers know who to shoot at?

They shoot at anything that moves.
Just like in Panama.

[billybobama]

Quote by: GHook93 I think your assessment is flawed. Where is the oil you talk about? How do you connect tax cuts to the war (Note: If a Democrat gets elected then expect your taxes to increase).

I will type this slow. The wealthy in the U.S. got a huge Tax Cut while we run up a huge Iraqi War Debt. Some U.S. Citizens will have to pay for this Iraq War. Who should it be?

[billybobama]

Quote by: thx1138 They shoot at anything that moves. Just like in Panama.

I love an honest answer and I agree with you. The U.S. is committing Mass Murder in Iraq.

[billybobama]

Quote by: grandpa Astute observations. The main enemy is at home. Grandpa h.

Yes - We call them Republicans

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: billybobama I love an honest answer and I agree with you. The U.S. is committing Mass Murder in Iraq.

Most killing seems to be done among the populaton, by your defenition any war would constitute Mass murder (which, of course they do, but not in the way you seem to be implying) And as he said, the troops don't have much choice but to shoot at civiians when the civilians so often shoot at them.

[inthemiddle]

this whole thing is juts kind of funny yet sad to me. I mean if these two groups are truly fighting each other, it just seems so stupid.

They cant even unite in their hate for the US?

So sad.

We might just win this thing yet boys. If all the religious fanatics start fighting each other, they wont have as many resources to put towards threats to the US and other European countries.

Already, with the gas riots in Iran, it looks as though we may not even have to take action against Iran. If the evil government is overthrown, we wont have as much to worry about.

The only thing that really concerns me about these reports, is that Al Qaeda could "declare war" on Iran without ever attacking Iran, or even meaning it for that matter.

Whats makes people so sure this is not a public relations/propaganda event, implemented by Al Qaeda in conjunction with Iran in order to buy more time for Iran's development of nuclear weapons?

[inthemiddle]

Quote by: billybobama I love an honest answer and I agree with you. The U.S. is committing Mass Murder in Iraq.

And by leaving Iraq and allowing genocide to occur we'd be doing what?

You can arfue we never should have gone in there all you want. I even agree with that 100%. But I whole heartedly disagree that we should just up and leave until the Iraqi government is ready to keep some level of control.

Other wise we'd have to end up going back in, and that would be much worse than the status quo.

[billybobama]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary Most killing seems to be done among the populaton, by your defenition any war would constitute Mass murder (which, of course they do, but not in the way you seem to be implying) And as he said, the troops don't have much choice but to shoot at civiians when the civilians so often shoot at them.

Can anybody tell me why we are in Iraq anyway?

[billybobama]

Quote by: inthemiddle this whole thing is juts kind of funny yet sad to me. I mean if these two groups are truly fighting each other, it just seems so stupid. They cant even unite in their hate for the US? So sad. We might just win this thing yet boys. If all the religious fanatics start fighting each other, they wont have as many resources to put towards threats to the US and other European countries. Already, with the gas riots in Iran, it looks as though we may not even have to take action against Iran. If the evil government is overthrown, we wont have as much to worry about. The only thing that really concerns me about these reports, is that Al Qaeda could "declare war" on Iran without ever attacking Iran, or even meaning it for that matter. Whats makes people so sure this is not a public relations/propaganda event, implemented by Al Qaeda in conjunction with Iran in order to buy more time for Iran's development of nuclear weapons?

It is really quite simple. The Islamo Fascists want the same thing that the Republican Fascists want. The power and the profits Iraqi Oil will bring.

[Gods_Mercenary]

I beleve it has something to do with the neo conservative (as much as I hate that term) dependance on high profile military action and the Bush administation's overall ignorance of how to fight terrorism, or find it, for that matter. Saddam was not exactly a guy you like to allow to have power, either. Plus, I think bush may have actually believed thay were going to find a nuke program.

[billybobama]

Quote by: inthemiddle And by leaving Iraq and allowing genocide to occur we'd be doing what? You can arfue we never should have gone in there all you want. I even agree with that 100%. But I whole heartedly disagree that we should just up and leave until the Iraqi government is ready to keep some level of control. Other wise we'd have to end up going back in, and that would be much worse than the status quo.

I am sick and tired of people like you who think they can predict the future. The Fascist Republicans have been giving us these grandeous predictions for 5 years. The Fascist Republicans have been wrong every damn time.

[rmnunez]

So you don't believe genocide would result if the US suddenly withdrew from Iraq?

[thx1138]

Quote by: rmnunez So you don't believe genocide would result if the US suddenly withdrew from Iraq?

There will be civil war but that is already happening, just U.S. troops are in the middle. Unless the U.S. plans to make Iraq a permanent occupation, then as soon as U.S. troops pullout the civil war will intensify.

The puppet government is not going to stop what is going to happen the Iraqis will divide along religious lines and fight each other.

The U.S. is not the first occupaing army, the British try to do the same after WWI. They liberated the area now called Iraq from the Ottoman Empire Ottoman Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .

Read the qoute below and replace "the British" with the " the U.S." and "officers from the old Ottoman army" with "officers from old Ba'ath army", and it's a blue print of what is happening now in Iraq.

Iraqi revolt against the British The Iraqi revolt against the British started in Baghdad in the summer of 1920 with mass demonstrations of both Sunni and Shia, including protests by embittered officers from the old Ottoman army, against the policies of Sir Arnold Wilson. The revolt gained momentum when it spread to the largely Shia regions of the middle and lower Euphrates. Sheikh Mehdi al-Khalasi was a prominent Shia leader of the revolt. Although the revolt was largely over by the end of 1920, it dragged on until 1922. The biggest revolt came from the Kurds, who formed two kingdoms. The king of the Kurds was Sheik Mahmoud Barzinji. During the revolt, Britain used white phosphorus bombs against Kurdish villagers. Legal experts consider phosphorus bombs chemical weapons when used as an anti-personnel weapon. Britain imposed a Hāshimite monarchy on Iraq and defined the territorial limits of Iraq without taking into account the politics of the different ethnic and religious groups in the country, in particular those of the Kurds to the north. During the British occupation the Shiates and Kurds fought for independence. In the Mandate period and beyond, the British supported the traditional, Sunni leadership (such as the tribal shaykhs) over the growing, urban-based nationalist movement. The British resorted to military force when their interests were threatened, as in the 1941 Rashīd `Alī al-Gaylānī coup. This coup led to a British invasion of Iraq using forces from the British Indian Army and the Arab Legion from Jordan. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_revolt_against_the_British"

Those who are ignorant of history are bound to repeat the same mistakes made in the past. This only happened eighty seven years ago and the lesson was forgotten?

[billybobama]

Quote by: thx1138 There will be civil war but that is already happening, just U.S. troops are in the middle. Unless the U.S. plans to make Iraq a permanent occupation, then as soon as U.S. troops pullout the civil war will intensify. The puppet government is not going to stop what is going to happen the Iraqis will divide along religious lines and fight each other. The U.S. is not the first occupaing army, the British try to do the same after WWI. They liberated the area now called Iraq from the Ottoman Empire Ottoman Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . Read the qoute below and replace "the British" with the " the U.S." and "officers from the old Ottoman army" with "officers from old Ba'ath army", and it's a blue print of what is happening now in Iraq. Those who are ignorant of history are bound to repeat the same mistakes made in the past. This only happened eighty seven years ago and the lesson was forgotten?

YOU CANNOT PREDICT THE FUTURE.

[billybobama]

Quote by: rmnunez So you don't believe genocide would result if the US suddenly withdrew from Iraq?

I repeat for all the Lying Fascist Republicans. You do not have ESP. You cannot predict the future.

[thx1138]

Quote by: billybobama YOU CANNOT PREDICT THE FUTURE.

No but you can get a good idea of what will happen by studying what happened in the past under similar conditions.

[billybobama]

Quote by: thx1138 No but you can get a good idea of what will happen by studying what happened in the past under similar conditions.

I will type this very slow. I have been listening to these Fascist Republican Predictions for 5 years. Every damn one of them has been wrong. Why should I be foolish enough to keep believing these insane Fascist Republican Predictions?

[rmnunez]

I repeat for all the Lying Fascist Republicans. You do not have ESP. You cannot predict the future.

But YOU can predict Coalitioneers will continue to be relentlessly killed if they stay.

[thx1138]

This has nothing to do with "Fascist Republican Predictions".

This has to do with the history of the area.
The area what is now called Iraq was forced under foreign powers since 1520 first by the Ottoman Empire and after WWI French and the British.

The State of Iraq was formed in 1920 by the British"without taking into account the politics of the different ethnic and religious groups in the country".

Ottomanism (Osmanlılık or Osmanlıcılık) was a concept which developed prior to the First Constitutional Era of the Ottoman Empire. Its proponents believed that it could solve the social issues that the empire was facing.It promoted the equality among the millets. The idea originated amongst the Young Ottomans. Put simply, Ottomanism stated that all subjects were equal before the law. The essence of the millet system was not dismantled, but secular organizations and policies were applied. Primary education, conscription, head tax and military service were to be applied to non-Muslims and Muslims alike. Ottomanism was rejected by many in the non-Muslim millets and by many Muslims. To the former, it was perceived as a step towards dismantling their traditional privileges. Meanwhile, the Muslims saw it as the elimination of their own superior position. There were claims that Ottomanism was a reaction to the Tanzimat, the era of intensive restructuring of the Ottoman Empire by the bureaucratic elite.

Britain imposed a Hāshimite monarchy on Iraq and defined the territorial limits of Iraq without taking into account the politics of the different ethnic and religious groups in the country, in particular those of the Kurds to the north.

Iraq and Palestine became British mandated territories, with one of Sherif Hussein's sons, Faisal, installed as King of Iraq. Palestine was split in half, with the eastern half becoming Transjordan to provide a throne for another of Hussein's sons, Abdullah.

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[billybobama]

You just do not get it. The Fascist Republican Party has told lie, after lie, after lie about Iraq. When is it time for the people of the U.S.A. say enough already. We are sick and tired of hearing these Fascist Republican lies. Just bring the troops home. You Fascist Republicans created this huge mess. Now just accept responsibility for the outcome. Do something honest for once in your sick, depraved, Fascist, Mass Murdering lives.