Run down the list: We have a women, a black, and a mormon: How about a Jew?

[GHook93]

America’s first Jewish president? - Politics - MSNBC.com

Bloomberg — America’s first Jewish president? NEW YORK - Michael Bloomberg isn’t known here as the Jewish mayor. In fact, his religion is a non-issue in a city that had its first Jewish chief executive, Abe Beame, three decades ago. The New York Jewish community is so large and active that even non-Jewish mayors take counsel from rabbis. So when Bloomberg won the 2001 mayoral race, Jews saw no significant advantage in having one of their own in City Hall. But if the billionaire businessman decides to run for the White House, his faith will become much more than an afterthought: He would be on a path toward being elected the first Jewish president of the United States.

A Jew has no shot in hell of winning. There are too many people hate the Jews (including many on these boards). I think America would vote in a child rapist before a Jew.

[Mia]

I have nothing against Jews but I would be against a Jewish President. I know that sounds weird, but Jews have a country they are the head of, and I don't see how a Jewish person could be President of the US and not be horribly biased on all matters of foreign policy.

Worse than we already are. Jewish organizations here already place tremendous pressure on our policies toward Israel and their other interests.

What would be really radical in the U.S. would be an atheist running for President. An atheist would have even less chance than a Jew or a Muslim.

Regards
S.

[SoylentGreen]

And that is why American political system is held in such low regard throughout the rest of the world. It is easier to become president if you are a movie star than it is if you have any political nous.

I have heard it said both here and in England by politicians whenever one politician makes a personal disparaging remark about another politician,
"Please let us not lower ourselves to the American style of political debate."

In NZ we have had politicians who are transsexual and homosexual, ones of different religions Rastafarian, Hindu or Taoist different races Maori, Pacific Islander, Indian and Chinese.

Politics should be about issues not personality

[GHook93]

Quote by: Mia I have nothing against Jews but I would be against a Jewish President. I know that sounds weird, but Jews have a country they are the head of, and I don't see how a Jewish person could be President of the US and not be horribly biased on all matters of foreign policy. Worse than we already are. Jewish organizations here already place tremendous pressure on our policies toward Israel and their other interests.

How many countless countries are there Christian and Muslims in?

The Jewish myth that Jews have so much clout on this countries policies is just that a myth. Built on the old anti-semitic views from middle age Europe, to Stalin's Russia, to the Nazi Germany to the KKK/skin heads and Middle East of today).

This is precisely the reason that a Jew (or a Muslim for that matter) won't be a US president any time soon.

[Alive]

A Jew came within a thousand votes of becoming vice president. None of the others on the list have. I think that demonstrates that you are incorrect, GHook.

[jose]

As candidates enter 2008 race, they begin courting Jewish voters. It’s a Washington ritual as reliable as the cherry blossoms, if nowhere near as pretty: Midterm congressional elections are over and aspirants for the most powerful job in the world are throwing their hats into the race for the U.S. presidency. Another ritual within the ritual is lining up Jewish support, and this year is no different. Some candidates are acting immediately: This month, U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) plucked Jay Zeidman, President Bush’s popular Jewish outreach official, to lead his Jewish campaign. Sometimes it’s even sooner than immediately: For the past two years, Ann Lewis, who has been prominent in Jewish causes since she served as the Clinton administration’s deputy communications director, has been sounding out Jewish support for Clinton’s wife, U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).

Candidates line up Jewish support
if you own the politicians, why would you need to front candidates?

[GHook93]

Quote by: Alive A Jew came within a thousand votes of becoming vice president. None of the others on the list have. I think that demonstrates that you are incorrect, GHook.

Point?:confused:? It is was more due to the fact that people liked Gore (or really Clinton) and the Democrat. No Democrat voter knows who a candidate's VP choice will be during the primaries. They find this piece of information after the primaries are over.

So my point still stands.

[GHook93]

Quote by: jose Candidates line up Jewish support if you own the politicians, why would you need to front candidates?

Candidates line up for all parties. However the only states were the Jewish vote truely matters is in NY and NJ. Other than that Jews make up less than 1% of the US population.

[Mia]

Quote by: GHook93 How many countless countries are there Christian and Muslims in? The Jewish myth that Jews have so much clout on this countries policies is just that a myth. Built on the old anti-semitic views from middle age Europe, to Stalin's Russia, to the Nazi Germany to the KKK/skin heads and Middle East of today). This is precisely the reason that a Jew (or a Muslim for that matter) won't be a US president any time soon.

Look at how many members of congress are Jewish. Look at the lobbies. How can you say they do not wield a lot of influence? Hell, tobacco lobbies do and they are nothing compared to Jewish.

Also, Jews are a minority here. It's natural for a majority Christian nation to want to elect Christians. It's natural for Muslim countries to want to elect Muslims. And the majority Jewish nation elects Jewish leaders.

If Israel didn't exist, and I didn't feel that the Zionist agenda would be perused, it wouldn't bother me at all to have a Jewish President. But it does and I do.

[GHook93]

Quote by: sdbest What would be really radical in the U.S. would be an atheist running for President. An atheist would have even less chance than a Jew or a Muslim. Regards S.

The funny thing is Atheist would really be the more logical candidate! Religion is based on super-natural, out-dated folklore. Atheisim is based on science.

With all that science has proven, I can't still believe someone would still believe so strongly in any religion.

[Alive]

Quote by: GHook93 Point?:confused:? It is was more due to the fact that people liked Gore

Haha. More like, even then most people realized how incompetent GWB was. But the point stands. Gore obviously wasn't ruined by his choice of a Jewish VP. They obviously are not ideological allies, as we can see from later events, so there must have been some electoral reason for the choice, and it was presumably not that bad of one. Gore could have just as easily chosen a woman or a black.

My argument here is analogous to my argument on the no-atheist-could-be-elected thread. Americans don't care nearly as much about the whole "identity" shit as the media does.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Mia Look at how many members of congress are Jewish. Look at the lobbies. How can you say they do not wield a lot of influence? Hell, tobacco lobbies do and they are nothing compared to Jewish..

I have and I started a post about it a while back.
Why Do Arabs Say the Jews Control the United States???

Here is the single Post, granted it was before the last election, but I don't see much changing.

Why Do Arabs Say the Jews Control the United States??? Percentage and Number of Jews on on the US Congress: 8% in the House (43) and 13% (13) of Senate = 6.9% of Congress. For a very small minority group they are well represented, but it can hardly be considered the controlling power in the Congress. List of current members of the 110th United States Congress by religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, Jews are a minority here. It's natural for a majority Christian nation to want to elect Christians.

As are Blacks, should we not vote for Obama, because he is a Black?

If Israel didn't exist, and I didn't feel that the Zionist agenda would be perused, it wouldn't bother me at all to have a Jewish President. But it does and I do]

Just because Bloomberg is Jewish means he will conduct his own Jihad on the Muslims and not push for a free and independent Palestine?

Would you also not vote for a Black (Obama), because he might increase affirmative action?

Note: The current French president had strong Jewish background (enough that would have got him murdered during the Holocaust).

[GHook93]

Quote by: Alive Haha. More like, even then most people realized how incompetent GWB was. But the point stands. Gore obviously wasn't ruined by his choice of a Jewish VP. They obviously are not ideological allies, as we can see from later events, so there must have been some electoral reason for the choice, and it was presumably not that bad of one. Gore could have just as easily chosen a woman or a black. My argument here is analogous to my argument on the no-atheist-could-be-elected thread. Americans don't care nearly as much about the whole "identity" shit as the media does.

You argument has one more flaw. A Jew didn't come within 1,000 votes of the VP, they actually won it and the Worst President the Country has ever seen stole it from him. HAHA

[Praxius]

Quote by: Mia I have nothing against Jews but I would be against a Jewish President. I know that sounds weird, but Jews have a country they are the head of, and I don't see how a Jewish person could be President of the US and not be horribly biased on all matters of foreign policy. Worse than we already are. Jewish organizations here already place tremendous pressure on our policies toward Israel and their other interests.

That's unusual to have someone say that. You guys got a Gov. from Austria. Who knows where he'll go in that carrer?

A jewish person could easily get to be a Prime Minister in Canada...... we've already had some Prime Ministers who were from Quebec and in their past, they've supported Quebec seperation, yet they can lead Canada and they looked out for the best interests of the country, not just Quebec..... and one has to have respect for that.

To say that a person with a Jewish background couldn't be President, based on something like the above..... man you guys got a long way to go. Like you're already having great luck sticking with the above logic.... Bush (Iraq), Nixon (Vietnam), Regan (War on Drugs), and Bush playing the Holy Christian Crusade card is really going over well.

Perhaps putting your trust in those you trust the least, might actually suprise you. There is a reason why you don't trust them, and it's usually due to those you keep in power feeding you information throughout the years against them, so they stay in control in the first place.

Perhaps the Minorities in your country actually have more of a connection and understanding of what the everyday US Citizen goes through and might actually have more incentive to do something about it. But rather, someone keeps voting in the rich guys for some reason. Makes no sense to me.

[Mia]

I know it's weird to say that - I admitted it in my first post.

GHook, what is the Jewish population % here?

You don't think that the US supports Jewish interests quite a bit, regardless if it's from actual representations of power, or the solidarity felt between right-wing Christians and Jews, or our desire to have an ally in the ME, or all of the above put together?

[Mia]

I really really don't, have never had, and never will had anything against Jewish people and have no comprehension for people that do, no matter how much I listen to their reasoning.

I do, however, have things against Israel and I think most Jews support it, and that's the only reason it has any bearing for me on holding the Presidency.

It would be nice if we could live in a fantasy land and pretend that such things don't matter, that a person of any religion should be able to be President, but it has never been that way anywhere and I doubt it ever will be.

The US is majority Christian and most of us want that reflected in the White House.

The topic is will a Jew ever win the White House, not whether he SHOULD. My comments are based on the topic posed.

Quote by: Mia The US is majority Christian and most of us want that reflected in the White House.

...and look at the quality of President electing a born-again Christian produced this time 'round. Torture. Illegal war. Denial of human rights. Repeal of habeas corpus. Commuting sentences of friends guilty of crimes. Yada, yada, yada.

Regards
S.

[Mia]

I hear ya on that one! The man has some serious ideological issues that we should have been made aware of.

[Alive]

Quote by: GHook93 You argument has one more flaw. A Jew didn't come within 1,000 votes of the VP, they actually won it and the Worst President the Country has ever seen stole it from him. HAHA

Except that that only makes my argument stronger, not weaker. :)