Interesting Discussion Topic

[Bnet505]

Keep in mind that I DON'T believe in 9/11 conspiracies.

Ten Questions That Every Intelligent Skeptic Must Answer

Interesting stuff, just wanted to see the Volconvo public's reaction to this.

[nm420]

So are you or are you not an "intelligent skeptic," the audience for whom the video was made? I've long stopped rationalizing the "official" answers to the posed questions, along with countless others, because I do hold reason above authority. The seeds of doubt were planted in my mind on that very day even; it sounded waaaay too incredible to believe a slightly charred passport could be found so easily amongst all that rubble.

So how do you rationalize your answers to these questions if you don't believe in 911 conspiracies?

[Bnet505]

Quote by: nm420 So are you or are you not an "intelligent skeptic," the audience for whom the video was made? I've long stopped rationalizing the "official" answers to the posed questions, along with countless others, because I do hold reason above authority. The seeds of doubt were planted in my mind on that very day even; it sounded waaaay too incredible to believe a slightly charred passport could be found so easily amongst all that rubble. So how do you rationalize your answers to these questions if you don't believe in 911 conspiracies?

I admit that there is some evidence to support this. I'm a skeptic almost everywhere but this field I'm not. I just don't see how our government could live with itself after killing thousands and why no one has come forward.

[Jern_Sandyer]

And then we must ask as INTELLIGENT people

What would each side want to commit an action.

American
Pro - Speading the power of the religious right/religious reasons, capital gain (oil access) and giving an excuss to regain a global hegemony.
Con - Destroying an important finacial institution while killing thousands of your FELLOW AMERICANS. Also it would take far too much corruption in the upper levels of government for this.

Islamic terrorism
Pro- It is attacks against the West in general and they are attacking symbolically rather then devastating. You logically go for the countries that haven't become absolutly paranoid. Because Allah said so, The middle east is unstable and people look for scapegoats (the West),
Con - Pre-9/11 relations of USA-Islam were a lot better then they were.

What do you think? Feel free to add

*edit* I just want to point out that I found it extremely amusing that one of the ads when I was writing the above was "How to become Muslim" ad. You have to love some of the connection made with ad software

[thx1138]

Quote by: nm420 So are you or are you not an "intelligent skeptic," the audience for whom the video was made? I've long stopped rationalizing the "official" answers to the posed questions, along with countless others, because I do hold reason above authority. The seeds of doubt were planted in my mind on that very day even; it sounded waaaay too incredible to believe a slightly charred passport could be found so easily amongst all that rubble. So how do you rationalize your answers to these questions if you don't believe in 911 conspiracies?

That's the same story for the JFK magic bullet showing up in pristine condition on the hosiptal bed.

I can't believe how contrived both those stories are.. how can anyone think that out of the wreckage of the plane and building a slightly charred passport of someone who wasn't even on the flight list would show up.

[Bnet505]

I do believe that Bush used this opportunity to attack whatever country he wanted, but I don't see the Government doing it.

[nm420]

Quote by: Bnet505 I admit that there is some evidence to support this. I'm a skeptic almost everywhere but this field I'm not. I just don't see how our government could live with itself after killing thousands and why no one has come forward.

It is hard to swallow, which I imagine is why most people wish to rationalize away the inconsistencies in the official version of events. Who wants to live in a world where elements of their own government are willing and capable of murdering its own citizens?

Unfortunately, a look at some of the history books will show just how sociopathic some government agents can be. The Tuskegee experiments and MKULTRA are two "projects" that come to mind, and these were performed on our own citizens. Mind you, these weren't on the order of devastation caused by 9/11, but they do go to show how little respect for human life various elements of our government (or any government for that matter) possess.

Of course, one needn't look too far back in the pages of time to find even more atrocious actions taken by a government against its own citizens. Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Maoist China and many others killed millions of their own citizens. How could they do such a thing? They rationalized it! These people they were killing were dissidents dangerous to the new social fabric they were trying to weave, and we all know you can't make an omelette without breaking a few (thousand, or million) eggs. Now, the lives lost on 9/11 one might argue were somehow more "innocent"; they weren't, as a whole, members of some ethnic or political group. Just your typical American worker doing their 9 to 5. I find these distinctions to be irrelevant, as I imagine do the perpetrators of this plot, as the end goal is to create a new social order. That is, in a nutshell, what most any revolutionary activity is aimed at, no?

What sort of new order might "they" be trying to create? Have you noticed any new trends in the directions our society is moving since 9/11? To what ends are we waging an eternal War on Terror? A few more interesting questions an "intelligent skeptic" might consider.

The other main opposition to this "inside job" theory, from what I can tell, is why the perpetrators of the plot would take such a humongous risk. The risk doesn't seem all that great when we start to analyze it, however. For starters, the mainstream media is all but bought and paid for. Sure, they dig up some dirt here and there and even bring up some rather important issues, but what they don't say is at least as important as what they do. You would think, being full of reasonably intelligent and educated people, the media might have asked some of those 10 questions in the video, or on any other number of rather important policies or legislation. They don't ask those questions, however. This is not to say that anyone in the media was somehow "in on" the whole plot; rather, the inertia of our media to just merely "report" the government's story seems to be the cause.

One might also believe that, with the number of people needed to carry out such a plot, there would be at least one whistleblower. However, this does not take into account the enormous amount of confusion which arises from an enormous bureaucracy. Once an instruction has been fed into the machine, it will be carried out most likely by someone who has no idea what they're doing or why they're doing it. It only takes one to merely follow orders (which most of us are trained to do rather well) and keep your big mouth shut (a condition for employment in many government positions). Surely there must be some people who knew what they were doing, and these people would have likely gone through a careful screening process to make sure they are pure cold-blooded mercenaries.

So, if you can be reasonably assured that most people will be fed your lies repeatedly (from a source they trust as "unbiased," no less), and have at your disposal a massive bureaucracy within which to cover your tracks, and had a penchant for world domination the likes of a Bond supervillain, wouldn't you go ahead and take the risk?

[JesusGodHatesYa]

Dem crazy muslims been causin' dah Nene-Elevern. We should kills all dah muslims.

[Jern_Sandyer]

Quote by: JesusGodHatesYa Dem crazy muslims been causin' dah Nene-Elevern. We should kills all dah muslims.

If you are going to state your opinion at least make an attempt at proper spelling. Be as radical as you want just talk like a normal civilized person.