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tusaki · Jun 11, 2004, 02:08 am

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department says its report that the number of international "terrorist" attacks fell last year
was wrong and in fact had risen sharply.

CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/06/10/powel....terror.report/

Google: http://news.google.com/news?num=30&hl=en&e...c0c31090%2ehtml

But, kuddo's for having the courage to say they were wrong. I would have waited till after the election.

bugsbunny04 · Jun 11, 2004, 03:11 am

Maybe that's the point, Kind of like when Carter's own people waited until after the election to release that the hostages would be leaving soon. Mabey this is the same thing, just reversed. Bush's own people could be trying to wreck him.

Zeebadee · Jun 14, 2004, 01:38 am

"Powell denied any duplicity was behind the mistakes.

"There's nothing political about it," Powell said. "It's a data collection and reporting error."

"The report marks the second time in a month that Powell disavowed information initially presented as accurate."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/13/powell.re...port/index.html

Powell should have resigned and distanced himself from this corrupt regime long ago. He came out of the military with a great reputation, but that's gone now. He simply has no credibility left. This administration used him up, and he got nothing in return. Why did he go along with them?

bishop · Jun 14, 2004, 01:43 am

yeah.. i'm coming to feel that way myself. powell's like a flavor-sapped wad of chewing gum.

i suppose he went along with them because he felt it was his duty. thank god he did though - what little he has managed to do probably would've been much worse if he wasn't there. i doubt bush would've pushed for 1441 if it wasn't for powell - wolfowitz himself said that wmd weren't the "real" reason for invading.

i'd love to see powell drop out before the election.

and i'd REALLY love to read his memoirs after all is said and done.

PatrickHenry · Jun 14, 2004, 04:04 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Zeebadee,
"Powell...Why did he go along with them?

My opinion: they told him in certain understandable terms exactly what he would do. Speculation: threats to his family, or they have something that can destroy his reputation, or a means of impoverishing him, or a way of burning him with a criminal charge, or a large monetary inducement. I thought he was too honorable for this crap, but I watched the change in December 2002, and I felt certain that irresistable pressure had been brought. Every man has a breaking point.

castille · Jun 14, 2004, 09:20 am

There is a complex name for this, but its wrong to say "The war on terror has failed cuz more terrorism occured after the war on terror".

Scientifically, you need to examine other factors. Which areas did terrorism occur? What defines terrorism? Are the areas of terrorism that increased directly related to the war on terror? Who are the countries participating in the war against terror? Have terror attacks increased against participants due to the war, or other external factors which may have affected it?

You need to conduct an examination into:
1) The statistical evidence of terrorism
2) Classify the statistics according various groups (eg. topographic, cultural, etc)
3) Examine the actual policies and actions (cause and effect relationship between WOT and T)

Too many errors...

Jun 11, 2004, 02:08 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
tusaki Playful Location: Groningen, the Netherlands Posts: 805	WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department says its report that the number of international "terrorist" attacks fell last year was wrong and in fact had risen sharply. CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/06/10/powel....terror.report/ Google: http://news.google.com/news?num=30&hl=en&e...c0c31090%2ehtml But, kuddo's for having the courage to say they were wrong. I would have waited till after the election. Hope & Dream

Jun 11, 2004, 03:11 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
bugsbunny04 Untrained Fodder Location: Alabama Posts: 1,354	Maybe that's the point, Kind of like when Carter's own people waited until after the election to release that the hostages would be leaving soon. Mabey this is the same thing, just reversed. Bush's own people could be trying to wreck him. Clean toe caps and a filthy mouth! Low morals and high morale!

Jun 14, 2004, 01:38 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Zeebadee Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,713	"Powell denied any duplicity was behind the mistakes. "There's nothing political about it," Powell said. "It's a data collection and reporting error." "The report marks the second time in a month that Powell disavowed information initially presented as accurate." http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/13/powell.re...port/index.html Powell should have resigned and distanced himself from this corrupt regime long ago. He came out of the military with a great reputation, but that's gone now. He simply has no credibility left. This administration used him up, and he got nothing in return. Why did he go along with them? "Everybody knows that the boat is leaking Everybody knows that the captain lied." - Leonard Cohen

Jun 14, 2004, 01:43 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	yeah.. i'm coming to feel that way myself. powell's like a flavor-sapped wad of chewing gum. i suppose he went along with them because he felt it was his duty. thank god he did though - what little he has managed to do probably would've been much worse if he wasn't there. i doubt bush would've pushed for 1441 if it wasn't for powell - wolfowitz himself said that wmd weren't the "real" reason for invading. i'd love to see powell drop out before the election. and i'd REALLY love to read his memoirs after all is said and done. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Jun 14, 2004, 09:20 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	There is a complex name for this, but its wrong to say "The war on terror has failed cuz more terrorism occured after the war on terror". Scientifically, you need to examine other factors. Which areas did terrorism occur? What defines terrorism? Are the areas of terrorism that increased directly related to the war on terror? Who are the countries participating in the war against terror? Have terror attacks increased against participants due to the war, or other external factors which may have affected it? You need to conduct an examination into: 1) The statistical evidence of terrorism 2) Classify the statistics according various groups (eg. topographic, cultural, etc) 3) Examine the actual policies and actions (cause and effect relationship between WOT and T) Too many errors... Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.