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Old Jun 9, 2004, 07:26 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040...14&s=scheer0601

"Though Bush's approval ratings have been falling steadily, they remained high in the areas of national security and Iraq. But no more. Polls now show that only a minority of Americans think that his handling of terrorism is good, or are "proud" of the US role in Iraq.

It's about time. With the US military bogged down in Iraq, and Afghanistan still a chaotic terrorist breeding ground overrun by warlords, we are being warned that Al Qaeda is as big a threat as ever, with recruitment booming and major attacks possibly planned for this summer.

All this despite Congress writing a blank check for $200 billion and additional expenditures--mostly for the Iraq war. This inevitably means, as an internal White House budget memo leaked to the Washington Post last week acknowledges, an impending cut across the board in 2006 funding of domestic programs such as education and even for the Department of Homeland Security."

if we reelect bush we doom ourselves to this fate. more cuts in education, more disastrously planned tax cuts, more economic folly, more war, more mismanagement. please listen to the voice of mercy and remove bush from power. he is a loose cannon that we cannot afford to unleash on the world for a second round.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 07:42 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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My choice is ABB. Anybody but Bush. He is a greater threat to American liberties than Saddam ever was.

Unfortunately, John Kerry is close to useless. So far he seems to agree more with Dubya on the war than he disagrees. Pathetic.


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Old Jun 9, 2004, 07:54 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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bush is going to lose because he has fuc&ed up this country in terms of economy, education, healthcare, the military, worldwide and internal respect, and human rights. bush's foreign policy is disasterous, and if reelected he will continue to misuse our military and tip our economy even farther in the red.

the neoconservative revolution must come to an end, as bush is demonstrating. i'm sorry you cannot see what atrocities bush has done to us.

kerry is dealing with realities bush imposed on us. as for kerry being 'weak', i am glad to know that he will be the uniter bush promised to be, and actually listen to the voters and to his advisors, instead of firing them when they tell him iraq will cost $300B and take 300K soldiers like bush did.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 09:20 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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What a hoot.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 11:44 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Bush may yet win. All he needs is a grand success in the Mid East and the country will line up to vote for him. This is what worries me as all it takes is to threaten or bribe the new Iraqi "government" into making Bush look like this was his plan all along and every other failure (environment, economy, education, etc.) he might have on his record will be immediately ignored by the sheep.

And we will continue to debate if his success was real or fabricated for our consumption.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 11:46 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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He'll pull Bin Laden out of wherever he hid Saddam.


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Old Jun 10, 2004, 12:53 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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No wonder we havent had any new tapes declaring "Death to America"


Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it?
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Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!
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Old Jun 10, 2004, 01:18 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Hey, you're right! And here I thought you'd never back one of my posts up ;-)


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Old Jun 10, 2004, 10:24 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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WARNING, the following post will surely be deemed "conspiracy theory", even though the person who owns, runs and does almost all the reporting is an EX-Police Officer who publicly came forward about C.I.A. dealings with drugs and illegal arms during the Iran/Contra Arms deal.

ONLY READ IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN MIND, AND CAN ACCEPT FACTS YOU MAY HAVE TO RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN, SHOULD YOU NOT TRUST THIS OR ANY OTHER SITE I POST SINCE IT COMES FROM "ME". (and I am supposedly a conspiracy theorist too, or so they say.)

Latest Issues dealing with Bush Impeachment and legal wrangles....

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/...coup_detat.html


Petition of Redress of Grievances:
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Old Jun 10, 2004, 10:37 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Bob_Dobbs,
i am glad to know that he will be the uniter bush promised to be, and actually listen to the voters
He'll listen to the voters up until the electoral college places him in power, then he won't give a damn about the voters, just like every other president.
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Old Jun 10, 2004, 01:57 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Bush is going down so maybe his cousin/frat brother/fellow new england, big government liberal will make a difference.
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Old Jun 10, 2004, 02:06 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Kerry leads Bush by 7 points in new poll

Democrat ahead 51 to 44 percent.

Poll respondents gave Kerry better marks for ideas for strengthening the economy, building respect for the U.S. around the world, and handling the problems of cost and access to health care...

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5181338/

The flip-floppind thing is hurting Kerry. I wish he'd advertize all of Bush's flip-flops to show they are on similar footing in this reagard!

He also needs to use that quote: When someone convinces me I'm wrong, I change my mind. What do you do?


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Old Jun 10, 2004, 06:15 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anarchist,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anarchist,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Bob_Dobbs,
i am glad to know that he will be the uniter bush promised to be, and actually listen to the voters
He'll listen to the voters up until the electoral college places him in power, then he won't give a damn about the voters, just like every other president.[/b][/quote]

He's not alone. I've noticed that in my lifetime, most presidents seem to spend their first term trying to get reelected and their second term working on how they'll look in the history books, but not a lot of time doing what they were elected to do.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Jun 10, 2004, 06:16 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Mia,
Kerry leads Bush by 7 points in new poll

Democrat ahead 51 to 44 percent.

Wow, just think how Kerry will do when he starts to actually campaign!


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 05:59 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Will he be doing that?


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Old Jun 11, 2004, 07:58 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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I hear he has a plan to campaign hard in 2005.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Jun 11, 2004, 07:58 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Again with a useless LA TIMES poll. What is more interesting is the PEW poll cited further down saying "Kerry's lead narrowed to 46-43 when Nader was included." 3% margin of error puts them dead even.

Also, "...In fact, Times polling in three battleground states found that Bush was leading Kerry in Missouri and even with the Democrat in Ohio and Wisconsin." So, Kerry's best chances of winning are even favoring Bush.

You'd think Kerry would have a landslide victory. However, his strongest states are "battleground" states. How is it they're so close?


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Old Jun 11, 2004, 09:10 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Bush didn't need your vote last time and chances are (statistics) that half of you didn't even vote. And he will not need your vote this time. Get used to it. The solution is to move to New Hampshire!


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Old Jun 11, 2004, 09:14 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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heh, being that this is a political board, my guess is that the majority of people here vote. nonvoters have their heads stuck in the boob tube most likely.


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Old Jun 11, 2004, 01:14 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Osborn F Enready,

Latest Issues dealing with Bush Impeachment and legal wrangles....

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/...coup_detat.html
Interesting resource, Osborn. It relates to the thread in the most direct way:

NOT that Dubya is going down in defeat in this fall's election,

BUT THAT he may be going down...town to the Federal Penitentiary for criminal involvement in destroying America's interests. FINANCIAL interests.

A CIA Black OP against the Neo-Cons? I like that: Two of my enemies locked in mortal combat...


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