Imus gone. Will Rush Limbaugh go?

[sevendogs]

When Rush Limbaugh would go? He is a hypocirt and a lier and he is a drug addict. A major ideologist for Republican Party.

[Slevin57]

Imus was gone for racist remarks.

As idiotic as Rush can be, he hasn't yet made it that far.

[StrongHeartsWin]

Rush is a business man before a Republican or entertainer. I don`t know if he`d ever step on his dick as hard as Imus has. I also think that Rush would have to say something worse than Imus before being fired. He commands a much larger and devoted following than Imus and they would stick with him through much worse.

That said, Rush irritates the hell out of me. Or perhaps it isn`t Rush who irritates me, but those who are taken in by his falsehoods, illogical arguments, immaturity etc... that do so. I have to almost force myself to listen to him. It`s a real chore, and I would almost prefer to listen to scratching on a chalkboard than hear his dribble.

[Century 25]

Limbaugh is only one of a cadre of repub blowhards.. I find him..vulgar.. laughable.. however.. he evidently reaches that segment of population the repub party is aiming at.. for their votes only.. they certainly do little for them in reality..

I think the entire Fox network should be disbanded.. they would be in a.. lol.. "fair and balanced" & FCC mandated equal-time-for-political-party-rhetoric way..

[Scribbler1]

Imus' undoing was the fact that his ACT was to be a disagreeable, mean old son-of-a-bitch and his remark played right into the hands of the people who wanted to paint him as the devil himself.
Limbaugh, although you might hate him, is seen as a wise political philosopher by millions. It would be a gigantic task for someone like Sharpton or Jackson to paint him as a bigot and make it stick. These guys like a soft target. Limbaugh wouldn't go down easily.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: Century 25 I think the entire Fox network should be disbanded.. they would be in a.. lol.. "fair and balanced" & FCC mandated equal-time-for-political-party-rhetoric way..

If FOX was shut down for their politics, MSNBC or CNN would change their programming to pick up the audience that made FOX as popular as it is.

Never, EVER forget that FOX plays what the viewers want because that's where the money is. CNN would play to the right too but FOX does it better. And if the political leanings of most of this country turned hard left tomorrow, FOX would sound like Air America within a week.

Don't blame them, blame their fans.

[brien]

I think the entire Fox network should be disbanded.. they would be in a.. lol.. "fair and balanced" & FCC mandated equal-time-for-political-party-rhetoric way..

Now there is a refreshing American idea, subvert the 1st Amendment. So what's your political party that upholds such intolerance? :rolleyes:

[brien]

No matter what your opinion is of Limbaugh, he has a larger audience than any other radio host you can name today. Because you don't like him, doesn't establish grounds to silence him. As much as you would like to apparently subvert the 1st Amendment by silencing Limbaugh, this is why WE have a BOR.

It is the priviledge of the listeners of radio to make their choice on the dial. They can listen to AL Sharpton's show, Jesse Jackson's show, or any other show, they damn well please. Your apparent willingness to make the decision for listeners is as insulting to the Constitution as it is to Limbaugh and his listeners.

[brien]

Rush is a business man before a Republican or entertainer.

Absolutely. He also has a 1st Amendment right to say anything reasonable over the airways he pleases. If one disagrees with him, don't listen and don't patronize his sponsors.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Scribbler1 Limbaugh, although you might hate him, is seen as a wise political philosopher by millions. It would be a gigantic task for someone like Sharpton or Jackson to paint him as a bigot and make it stick. These guys like a soft target. Limbaugh wouldn't go down easily.

Rush's millions of Ditto Heads make think him a "wise commentator," but every attempt Rush has made in television has failed. His last failure occured during a very brief stint as an ESPN football commentator. Rush made some crack about black quaterback Donovan McNabb being a product of NFL "social concern" and less about real talent. He included black coaches in his remarks. I don't think Rush lasted a week following the uproar. Unlike Imus, he "resigned" rather than await the inevitable. On TV, Rush was a soft and fat target, by his own design. It wasn't a good fit. He's not "mainstream."

Imus, unlike Rush and most talk radio shock jocks, made network TV his second home, despite his record of on-air insults. When he targeted the amateur basketball team, his luck ran out. Imus is no longer mainstream.

Imus belongs with Rush and the rest, on a some radio network that caters to his unique insult market niche.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: The Decider Rush's millions of Ditto Heads make think him a "wise commentator," but every attempt Rush has made in television has failed.

I think the same can be said for Howard Stern. His TV show was terrible, but he was a radio "giant", which I think is the same for Limbaugh. Some talkers don't work out in a visual medium.

I don't think Rush lasted a week following the uproar. Unlike Imus, he "resigned" rather than await the inevitable.

I think the difference here was Imus was blindsided. He was going to be suspended and just before THAT was to start he was immediately dumped.

Imus belongs with Rush and the rest, on a some radio network that caters to his unique insult market niche.

What good would that do? As long as it's radio, someone will be offended and call for his dismissal.
I figure Imus, Limbaugh, Savage, Olbermann and the rest deserve to be right where they are/were. I think people who don't like them should use that little gadget that allows them to change the station.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Scribbler1 He was going to be suspended and just before THAT was to start he was immediately dumped.

I think the terms of the initial punishment read something like, "two week suspension pending further investigation" or words to that effect. The companies left themselves an out. Imus has been in TV/radio long enough to know that conditions change. When Procter and Gamble pulled out, Imus was toast.

Quote by: Scribbler1 What good would that do? As long as it's radio, someone will be offended and call for his dismissal.

Michael Savage pulls in enough listeners to get all kinds of sponsors, just not the wholesome kind like Procter and Gamble. Imus could stitch together a deal, but his airtime will probably be a fraction of his past show, at least at first.

Quote by: Scribbler1 I figure Imus, Limbaugh, Savage, Olbermann and the rest deserve to be right where they are/were. I think people who don't like them should use that little gadget that allows them to change the station.

And I think nobody with a foul mouth should be immune from severe criticism, including economic boycotts. When Michael Savage told a gay caller to "die of AIDS," gays and their supporters had every right to do more than "turn the dial." Free speech works both ways. If the potty mouths can survive the criticism, and remain profitable, the market will have spoken.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: The Decider I think the terms of the initial punishment read something like, "two week suspension pending further investigation" or words to that effect. The companies left themselves an out. Imus has been in TV/radio long enough to know that conditions change. When Procter and Gamble pulled out, Imus was toast.

That was for the MSNBC show. Imus was fired from CBS minutes after Sharpton walked out of their offices.

And I think nobody with a foul mouth should be immune from severe criticism, including economic boycotts. When Michael Savage told a gay caller to "die of AIDS," gays and their supporters had every right to do more than "turn the dial."

But they didn't do more than that, apparently, and neither did anybody Imus offended either. Remember, the girls were the ONLY people not demanding Imus' firing.

Free speech works both ways. If the potty mouths can survive the criticism, and remain profitable, the market will have spoken.

Thay always DO survive, don't they. Basically, two men took out Imus (and a couple dozen "protesters" they probably had on retainer) only because he handed them the perfect excuse.

But this thread is about Limbaugh, so I'll end it there. But in the end, Limbaugh would be a much harder target to hit, so I don't think the terrible two could knock HIM out.

[StrongHeartsWin]

What perplexes me is why other talk show hosts who are Limbaugh`s foes don`t cajole and goad him to no end to worm out from behind his golden microphone and take center stage for an open debate. I remember when Gore thrashed Perot on NAFTA in their live debate in '93, and Perot never did recover from that.

Perhaps Rush sees that as a lesson.

I mean, what if there was a national movement called "Make Rush Come Out and Debate" ???

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin What perplexes me is why other talk show hosts who are Limbaugh`s foes don`t cajole and goad him to no end to worm out from behind his golden microphone and take center stage for an open debate.

Who says they are his FOES? They are all colleagues and I suspect they wouldn't really want to debate him anyway.

[StrongHeartsWin]

Well, Al Franken sure is not his friend. Oberman sure is not. I am pretty sure Gore or even BClinton are not his friend. The classification of colleague just because they are involved in the entertainment or political world surely is not, or should not be any barrier for them to call one another out.

I would bet Al or Oberman would relish the thought of debating with Limbaugh, and would seek it out if they thought it could be arranged, but I bet Rushbo would dismiss it and stay far away from even discussing it.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Scribbler1 Limbaugh would be a much harder target to hit, so I don't think the terrible two could knock HIM out.

Yet Limbaugh could NEVER replicate Imus' show. Limbaugh has neither Imus' interview ability nor his TV friendly show. In other words, Limbaugh is a harder target because he never tried to appeal to mainstream America or the bipartisan political interview circuit. Imus did. In that context, Imus' shock jock persona was much more dangerous to himself than anything Rush says. We'll see how long Glen Beck survives. He's the closest thing to Imus on TV today.

[Chaossaber314]

Imus wasn't exactly mainstream. The bulk of his career is based on a cable network in the early morning. Let's not blow his popularity out of proportion here. A lot of people hadn't even heard the name "Don Imus" before this incident.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Chaossaber314 Imus wasn't exactly mainstream. The bulk of his career is based on a cable network in the early morning. Let's not blow his popularity out of proportion here. A lot of people hadn't even heard the name "Don Imus" before this incident.

True. That's why Imus needed big corporate sponsors like Procter and Gamble. Mainstream sponsors with "wholesome" products. CBS, NBC, and MSNBC put their mainstream brands on the line too. Imus didn't need a big fan base, nor did his sponsors and employers care if he had one. Imus brought in heavyweight interviews with government, journalist, and writer celebrities. He made national news. He helped to sell books. The shock jock part was not the main focus of Imus' value. It was an hors dourve; but a very risky one as it turned out.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Quote by: sevendogs When Rush Limbaugh would go? He is a hypocirt and a lier and he is a drug addict. A major ideologist for Republican Party.

It's Liar, not lier


And no, Rush ain't going no where because of this "scandal". I know that some lefties hearts were all aflutter at the thought...