American Imperialism

[Scott]

These articles and videos are a good summary of what most non-Americans know and most Americans don't know.

http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1...-Guatemala.gif
GUATEMALA HUMAN RIGHTS
The Angolan Civil War and US Foreign Policy - Empire? - Global Policy Forum
Still Hidden: A Full Record Of What the U.S. Did in Chile
The CIA in Indonesia, 1965-1967

t r u t h o u t - Larry Everest | History of US and UK Intervention in Iraq
Major General Smedley Butler ***
A Timeline of CIA Atrocities
Killing Hope page U.S. Military and CIA Interventions since World War II William Blum
Imperialism 101
The Empire and Ourselves, by Noam Chomsky
THE AMERICAN EMPIRE AND THE U.S. SYSTEM OF CLIENT STATES
The Lessons of the Vietnam War
Michael Parenti: The Rational Destruction of Yugoslavia
Iran excerpted from the book Boomerang How our covert wars have created enemies across the Middle East and brought terror to America. by Mark Zepezauer
US foreign policy East Timor Questions and Answers


What Uncle Sam Really Wants
Smedley Butler: War is a Racket

The Flag of the Corporate States of America

War and Globalization - The Truth Behind September 11 - Google Video
The Oil Factor: Behind the War on Terror - Google Video
A must watch video : Capitalism Creates Poverty? : Dr. Michael Parenti: "Terrorism, Globalism and Conspiracy"
Iraq War - Google Video
THE TRUTH & LIES OF 9/11 - Google Video
The Chomsky Marr Interview 1996 - Google Video
What I've Learned About US Foreign Policy: The war against the Third World - Google Video
Secrets of the CIA - Google Video
Video - Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
9/11 American Scholars Symposium Panel Discussion :
9/11 Documentaries & Videos - David Ray Griffin - 911 and the American Empire
GlobalResearch.ca - Centre for Research on Globalization 22&articleId=4245

These two are the same video.
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Rob Newman's History of Oil.
Robert Newmans History of Oil - Google Video

More here.
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[Slevin57]

Does this mean I know more about Iraq since I'm not an Iraqi?

I think not.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Slevin57 Does this mean I know more about Iraq since I'm not an Iraqi? I think not.

No, but he's right, most people outside the US do know considerably more about our "Secret Governments" attrocities than the average citizen.


Read up, compare notes.


Need a more credible source? Go to the "Books, what are you reading" thread, and you can purchase your own books on many of these topics.

[Scott]

Here are some more videos. The last one is pretty important. It's about how the oil reserves of East Timor were stolen from the people of the country.

VIDEO: The "War on Terrorism" is a Fabrication
YouTube - Engineering of Consent: guatemala coup 1954
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle17988.htm
'Death of a Nation: The Timor Conspiracy'  - Windows Media

[Matt W]

Are you here to debate, or just to spam?

[Scott]

If someone disagrees, I'll follow up. I would have followed up on Slevin57's post but Milton Bradley did a pretty good job of it and Slevin57 seemed to be satisfied.
I had to post a lot of info because the US has interfered in so many places. I just wanted to give a complete picture.

I learned about a lot of this stuff just by living abroad. I trust this website because its articles are consistent with what I've learned just from talking to non-Americans.
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If someone disagrees, say so and I'll tell you what I think.

[grandpa]

Is it spamming if the guy doesn't get much replies?

Grandpa h.

[Osborn F Enready]

Thanks Scott, and welcome to Volconvo.

Don't expect much in the way of intelligent disagreement, at least, that is what I find in my threads of this sort.

Most people (not just in the U.S.) are tragicly misinformed to their governments true actions.

[Scott]

Here's a movie that just came out.

War On Democracy
YouTube - The War On Democracy Film Trailer by John Pilger

I came across it while I was reading this article.
The Old Iran-Contra Death Squad Gang Is Desperate to Discredit Chavez

I live in Madrid and I've never seen it advertised here. Has anybody in the US seen it advertized?

This is a pretty good site.
INFORMATION CLEARING HOUSE. NEWS, COMMENTARY & INSIGHT

This is where I get a lot of the stuff I post.

Most people (not just in the U.S.) are tragicly misinformed to their governments true actions.

Now with the internet people can get some objective information. I haven't been in the US since 95. That was before the internet and people were as uninformed as ever. Have you seen any difference because of the internet?

[Praxius]

Quote by: Milton Bradley; No, but he's right, most people outside the US do know considerably more about our "Secret Governments" attrocities than the average citizen. Read up, compare notes. Need a more credible source? Go to the "Books, what are you reading" thread, and you can purchase your own books on many of these topics.

Other countries have no problem opening a can of worms of what another country did. If the evidence is all there and points to the US or any other country, we'll all know, while the majority of your media is filtered and told things they want to hear...

[Osborn F Enready]

Scott said: Now with the internet people can get some objective information. I haven't been in the US since 95. That was before the internet and people were as uninformed as ever. Have you seen any difference because of the internet?

I am seeing a lot of differences due to the internet making more information more accessible.

We are nowhere near where we NEED to be, to have an informed electorate, but we are making great strides, thanks to debate forums like this.

The fact is though, all nations limit their media to some degree, and it is often hardest to get accurate information about the people who hold the power in whatever locale, state or nation you are in.

There is a lot of media reform movements, a lot more independent and libertarian voters now than ever before that I know of, so I would say, yes, we are making a difference.

[Osborn F Enready]

Prax said: Other countries have no problem opening a can of worms of what another country did. If the evidence is all there and points to the US or any other country, we'll all know, while the majority of your media is filtered and told things they want to hear...

All nations do it Prax, and so does Canada. The U.S. has gotten worse than it has been since 9-11, but the trend is reversing slowly.

[Scott]

What does everybody think of this?

Bilderberg Club
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
bilderberg - Google Video

I think the press here in Spain is controlled by the same group that controls the press in the US. The press here refers to American imperialism in Latin America because Spaniards already know all about it; if they avoid the subject, they'll lose all of their credibility. When CIinton went to that international summit meeting back in the nineties, we saw pictures of him listening to the speeches of presidents of other counties but what they were saying wasn't reported at all. They were probably analyzing globalizaion or saying other things they want us to be in the dark about. People here think the press ignores what the big shadow government tells it to ignore. They read the press here but they take everything with a grain of salt. I'm told that Spaniards who don't live in big cities swallow most of it though.

I've seen some articles by these two anti-establishment pundits in the Spanish press.
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Of course they were some of their tamer articles.

People here have told me that the owner of El Pais goes to Bilderberg meetings.
ELPAIS.com - Portada
This is the biggest newspaper in Spain.
I guess he gets his instructions on what he can and can't report at those meetings.

[Praxius]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready; All nations do it Prax, and so does Canada. The U.S. has gotten worse than it has been since 9-11, but the trend is reversing slowly.

Well I'm not sure what it's like in the US, but here we have certain laws governing the news, where most locations have phone numbers to call in if they feel the news they're reporting may be biased, false, etc... it's supposed to be the truth and facts, nothing more. I see in Fox and CNN a lot of speculations and interviews with so-called experts who just throw out some idea of what something all means, before there's any evidence to back it up..... there's a difference I have seen... perhaps it's because we don't have anything worth while to hide, lol.

And if someone is hiding something from the public, either the news agencies crack down on them, or political representatives do it in Parlament, to get brownie points later on as a rat.... it's a system.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Praxius Well I'm not sure what it's like in the US, but here we have certain laws governing the news, where most locations have phone numbers to call in if they feel the news they're reporting may be biased, false, etc... it's supposed to be the truth and facts, nothing more. I see in Fox and CNN a lot of speculations and interviews with so-called experts who just throw out some idea of what something all means, before there's any evidence to back it up..... there's a difference I have seen... perhaps it's because we don't have anything worth while to hide, lol. And if someone is hiding something from the public, either the news agencies crack down on them, or political representatives do it in Parlament, to get brownie points later on as a rat.... it's a system.

You need to call them on it when they quote US State Dept. sources word for word.

[Osborn F Enready]

Prax, I have seen some of the Canadian News stories you have posted, and they like America, are short on facts if its a pet issue to your nation.

Do you remember the "gun article" you posted a while back? There were no facts, just a lot of accusations, assumption and BS.

All nations do it, you are kiddin yourself if you think Canada is any better.

[Praxius]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready; Prax, I have seen some of the Canadian News stories you have posted, and they like America, are short on facts if its a pet issue to your nation.

I haven't really seen a resembalance, since they only post what is known.

Do you remember the "gun article" you posted a while back? There were no facts, just a lot of accusations, assumption and BS.

The only BS, Assumptions and Accusations that were in that thread were from other members, not the article.... if you read the dam thing, they informed the details, the time, location, and what was confiscated, they didn't say for what.

I attempted to look for additional news on it, but I'm in NS, not BC, on the other side of the country, the only news I can get is my local, national, international, and for specific proviences, I gotta watch each local web site, and I don't have that time.... chances are this situation was continued on a local news basis.... and chances are I missed the article. Go look for a British Columbia or Vancouver News site and look for an update yourself..... otherwise, stick to the dam topic and stop making yourself continually look wrong.

All nations do it, you are kiddin yourself if you think Canada is any better.

Never said it was the best..... bit it is better compared to some. And we have our methods of getting the information we require.... at least I can if need be.

I'm saying in those two news stations in paticular thus far..... actually right now I'm watching NBC-E on the satalite... thus far the info is good.... just as Canadian news, and in that case, you're right.....

But when it comes to governmental information, things are far different. I'm not saying Our's is the best, but it has more accesibility to, compared to the US's National Security jargon..... and even you can't really deny this..... we in Canada, haven't tightened our arses like a drum as much as you guys after 9/11....

[Osborn F Enready]

Don't want to argue Prax, just pointing out what I see as dangerous naivete'.

All nations press are bought out in the world of multi-national corporate press.

[Praxius]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready; Don't want to argue Prax, just pointing out what I see as dangerous naivete'. All nations press are bought out in the world of multi-national corporate press.

Perhaps, which is also why I prefer to check new from other countries at many times as well, and see their perspective on things... and hearing how other's interp the news, can open some new ideas.

And even if the new is corrupt, perhaps you might have one or two reporters who think like us, and might be slipping secret messages in the news, like Osama.

[Rainbow]

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Are we imperialists ? I do not think so.
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