MLK & Israel's Wrong

[The_Genius]

Quote by: shrike Only your fairy tales are not verified by scientific community,

You sure about that?

And why you ignoring that Jews was constantly massacered by Palestinians?

Check how many people died in both sides. far more Palestinains died... shows who is the real terrorist.

Its not their land.

They were born there. So it is indeed their land.

[shrike]

You sure about that?

Yes Moses,Abraham , Ismael and all other imaginary friends that you have never existed.

Check how many people died in both sides. far more Palestinains died... shows who is the real terrorist

No its only says that Palestinians don’t care about their own civilians lives. Israel wanted always to stop terrorists from reaching civilian population and minimize the civilian casualties of other side. Its the main reason for all there precision strikes and not carpet bombings(like Russia for example).
The Palestinian goal is quite the opposite they don't care for their own population and use it at as human shields and of course they maim target is mostly civilians.

They were born there. So it is indeed their land.

First of all many so called "Palestinians" came to Israel as Jews started to return to their homeland .Second you own the land if you have a land deed for it.

[pikatore]

dont bother with shrike, he is hopelessly zionist, pro-israeli, anti-palestinean and anti-arab, to the point of ridiculous.

[The_Genius]

Quote by: pikatore dont bother with shrike, he is hopelessly zionist, pro-israeli, anti-palestinean and anti-arab, to the point of ridiculous.

I'm starting to think so too. :eek:

[arielmessenger]

of posing as "Semitic Jews" in order to steal another people's land and ruin their lives, you haven't a shred of hope of convincing anyone here of Israeli good intentions. They began with immorality and lies and still continue them hoping the world will not really catch the Ashkenazi swindle. But intellectuals who have done their homework have caught it and it's only a matter of time before the Internet debates bring it to the attention of legislators and policy makers.

[The_Genius]

Quote by: arielmessenger of posing as "Semitic Jews" in order to steal another people's land and ruin their lives, you haven't a shred of hope of convincing anyone here of Israeli good intentions. They began with immorality and lies and still continue them hoping the world will not really catch the Ashkenazi swindle. But intellectuals who have done their homework have caught it and it's only a matter of time before the Internet debates bring it to the attention of legislators and policy makers.

They not only stole the land, but murdered the natives of the land...

[shrike]

of posing as "Semitic Jews" in order to steal another people's land and ruin their lives, you haven't a shred of hope of convincing anyone here of Israeli good intentions. They began with immorality and lies and still continue them hoping the world will not really catch the Ashkenazi swindle. But intellectuals who have done their homework have caught it and it's only a matter of time before the Internet debates bring it to the attention of legislators and policy makers.

This again??I already disproved you "theories"
www.volconvo.com/forums/330193-post494.html

They not only stole the land, but murdered the natives of the land...

If you repeat the same lie over and over again it will not become a truth.

[The_Genius]

Quote by: shrike This again??I already disproved you "theories" www.volconvo.com/forums/330193-post494.html If you repeat the same lie over and over again it will not become a truth.

The truth shall set you free.

So stop denying it.

[shrike]

The truth shall set you free. So stop denying it.

Exactly.Stop denying it.

[pikatore]

god help us all.

[rez]

ah, fighting over sand. God help us all? A decent education can fix this silly fighting...

[The_Genius]

Quote by: shrike Exactly.Stop denying it.

How old are you? Anyways, you may continue this stupid game of 'truth denial'.

Since, I seem to be more matured, I'm out.

[Athena]

Quote by: The_Genius You sure about that? Check how many people died in both sides. far more Palestinains died... shows who is the real terrorist. They were born there. So it is indeed their land.

Shrike, if you want to do something other than flame, instead of speaking of someone's "fairy tales", say exactly what it is you do not agree with. Considering I believe all three religions are based on mythology, and there is no justification for a country like Israel existing in the first place, your opinion of a fairy tale and superstition,and justification for the division of humanity that begins with "being Jew" and not Roman or German or Russian or American could be interesting. Romans would have been glad if Jews had decided to be one of them. So how is all this division justified, and just how different are the "fairy tales" that perpetuate the division?

Excuse me but you all are worshipping the God of Abrabam so your quarreling is really annoying to this outsider, who seriously wants this to end, before her grandson gets caught up in a war based on religious BS that should never touch this non religious family living in the US that is suppose to have separation of church and state, but is called to engage in religious conflict!

Why should anyone in an Arab country even think of hating an American, if it were not for Israel and oil?

And reading the other post, I have to say again, the JEWS are the unwelcomed invaders and should pull out.

[Athena]

Quote by: shrike Yes Moses,Abraham , Ismael and all other imaginary friends that you have never existed. No its only says that Palestinians don’t care about their own civilians lives. Israel wanted always to stop terrorists from reaching civilian population and minimize the civilian casualties of other side. Its the main reason for all there precision strikes and not carpet bombings(like Russia for example). The Palestinian goal is quite the opposite they don't care for their own population and use it at as human shields and of course they maim target is mostly civilians. First of all many so called "Palestinians" came to Israel as Jews started to return to their homeland .Second you own the land if you have a land deed for it.

You are amazing Shrike. If a primate troop crosses into the terrority of another troop, one of two things happens. The invading troop drives out the one that was already there, or the troop that was already there drives out the invading troop. But your troop, Shrike, moves into another troops terrority and than argues their right to be there and that the troop that was already there is in the wrong for wanting to drive them out. No Shrike, it is your troop that moved into the other troops territory. If you intend to keep it, you have to drive out the troop that was already there, and you sure can not claim the innocense you want to claim.

Of course if you want to stop your conflict with the other troop, just become one of them. On a one on one bases in the wild, this can happen. Lone primates can be accepted into troops other their own. What is it that prevents you from becoming a Muslim Arab and ending your conflict with them?

[arielmessenger]

Just curious as a one who was an anthro major at Berkeley at one time and now is one of them religious fanatics who's come down from the mountain..go figure..

[pikatore]

Quote by: Athena Muslim Arab and ending your conflict with them?

The fact that the Muslims are all crazy and worship some god and all this other rubbish as opposed to the open-minded, tolerant, and fair people of israel. its shrikes mentality that caused the conflict, and its his mentality that caused bombs to land on places like qana.

[Athena]

Quote by: pikatore dont bother with shrike, he is hopelessly zionist, pro-israeli, anti-palestinean and anti-arab, to the point of ridiculous.

The thread about education to hate Jews, addresses what Shrike was taught and what Palestinians are being taught. Israelis and Arabs do not hold the same view of reality. We are very fortunate to have representatives of both points of view, so we can see exactly how people come to war. Amazing isn't it? We think we know reality, but in truth we only know our limited understanding of reality, and not the much larger picture of everyone's reality.
This is what brings people to war.

[pikatore]

Quote by: Athena The thread about education to hate Jews, addresses what Shrike was taught and what Palestinians are being taught. Israelis and Arabs do not hold the same view of reality. We are very fortunate to have representatives of both points of view, so we can see exactly how people come to war. Amazing isn't it? We think we know reality, but in truth we only know our limited understanding of reality, and not the much larger picture of everyone's reality. This is what brings people to war.

I'm sure shrike will somehow take that as a compliment. Lets have a wait.

[The_Genius]

Athena, Pikatore...

...you see, no one is denying that there are Islamic extremists out there, not even me. But that does not make Israel innocent or God's "chosen nation." Isarel does not even know the meaning of 'human rights.' Instead of seeking a solution, they kill innocent Palestinians, freeze their money and build walls to implement racial segragation. Our friend shrike, brainwashed by Zionist propagandas, is too caught up in blaming Muslims than actually discussing these issues.

[pikatore]

hear hear