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Technosoul · Jan 10, 2007, 11:22 pm

I am not speaking about insurgents or conflicts between groups of people who have lived in Iraq for a long time.

But only about outside terrorist groups that honor the holy war originated by Bin Laden.

In his state of the union address Bush said that if we do not reach his objectives in Irag that this would encourge more people to join anti-American terrorist groups because they know they can win the fight.

Right or wrong.

**Jack** · Jan 10, 2007, 11:33 pm

Why would he be right about that after being wrong about everything else concerning Iraq?

Who knows how others will react to the actions of our nation. They may decide we're wimps and try to attack us in concert. They may respect our wisdom and intentions if we pull out and our stature may increase as a nation. Who knows?

Bush just uses what passes for fear tactics these days ("everything that I don't agree with encourages the terrorists") to try and get his way, without supporting his contentions or showing any compassion for those he continues to put in harm's way in reaching his undefined agenda.

ByaKya · Jan 10, 2007, 11:53 pm

Hes might be right, he should have thought of that BEFORE going into the iraqi CAKE walk.

Compugasm · Jan 11, 2007, 03:27 am

All the guys we should've been fighting, died on 9/11.

another day · Jan 11, 2007, 03:32 am

Don't you see, the terrorists already won when he invaded Iraq in the first place.

tinybear · Jan 11, 2007, 03:40 am

Terrorists will never 'win'. Those who deliberately slaughter innocent people have sold their souls to the Devil. Retribution will come as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.

ByaKya · Jan 11, 2007, 06:21 am

Quote:

Quote by: tinybear

Terrorists will never 'win'. Those who deliberately slaughter innocent people have sold their souls to the Devil. Retribution will come as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.

Was something lost in translation? the terrorists already died, are you saying theyll be punished in hell ? hell of course has been mathematically been proven on another thread.

Osborn F Enready · Jan 11, 2007, 12:29 pm

In response to the original question.....

It's a no win situation.

If we win, we make more enemies.
If we lose, we make more enemies.
If we break even, we make more enemies.

Regardless of what happens now, we have made more enemies thanks to the defective logic, and retribution G.W. sought against Iraqs passed leader Saddam Hussein.

WWIII has been started, and lines are forming around the world behind ideological, religious, pro-government and anti-government stances, in all nations due to this.

Fragmentalism will be the trend from 2007 to 2012, worldwide, in my opinion.

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Jan 10, 2007, 11:22 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	If Bush looses in Irag do the terrorists win? I am not speaking about insurgents or conflicts between groups of people who have lived in Iraq for a long time. But only about outside terrorist groups that honor the holy war originated by Bin Laden. In his state of the union address Bush said that if we do not reach his objectives in Irag that this would encourge more people to join anti-American terrorist groups because they know they can win the fight. Right or wrong.

Jan 10, 2007, 11:33 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,012	Why would he be right about that after being wrong about everything else concerning Iraq? Who knows how others will react to the actions of our nation. They may decide we're wimps and try to attack us in concert. They may respect our wisdom and intentions if we pull out and our stature may increase as a nation. Who knows? Bush just uses what passes for fear tactics these days ("everything that I don't agree with encourages the terrorists") to try and get his way, without supporting his contentions or showing any compassion for those he continues to put in harm's way in reaching his undefined agenda. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Jan 11, 2007, 03:27 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,643	All the guys we should've been fighting, died on 9/11. I'd like to thank Charlie Hodge, bringing me scarves and water.

Jan 11, 2007, 12:29 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	In response to the original question..... It's a no win situation. If we win, we make more enemies. If we lose, we make more enemies. If we break even, we make more enemies. Regardless of what happens now, we have made more enemies thanks to the defective logic, and retribution G.W. sought against Iraqs passed leader Saddam Hussein. WWIII has been started, and lines are forming around the world behind ideological, religious, pro-government and anti-government stances, in all nations due to this. Fragmentalism will be the trend from 2007 to 2012, worldwide, in my opinion. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Jan 10, 2007, 11:53 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
ByaKya BANNED Posts: 1,372	Hes might be right, he should have thought of that BEFORE going into the iraqi CAKE walk.

Jan 11, 2007, 03:32 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
another day slipping sand Posts: 1,802	Don't you see, the terrorists already won when he invaded Iraq in the first place.

Jan 11, 2007, 03:40 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,009	Terrorists will never 'win'. Those who deliberately slaughter innocent people have sold their souls to the Devil. Retribution will come as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.