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BobbyO · Jan 9, 2007, 07:58 pm

Critics of the Bush Administration has condemned the war in Iraq as, among other things, a diversion from the war on terror, which will result mere in the inflaming of anti-Americanism and increase terrorism.

Yesterday, an American warplane bombed a base in Somalia where it was believed those who were responsible for the '98 embassy bombings were residing.

Is such a bombing against such a target a legitimate action in the war on terrorism?

RickSp · Jan 9, 2007, 08:19 pm

Yes, it is. Whether it is effective remains to be seen.

brien · Jan 10, 2007, 02:05 pm

Gives new meaning to revenge is best eaten off a cold plate now, doesn't it?

Praxius · Jan 10, 2007, 02:19 pm

U.S. attacks may have killed Canadians in Somalia

The_Genius · Jan 10, 2007, 02:20 pm

Afghan women and children belong to Al-Qaeda...

Iraqi and Lebanese women and children belong to Al-Qaeda...

Now even Somalians belong to Al-Qaeda....

What's next? North Koreans belong to Al-Qaeda?

Give me a break!!!

whiteangel · Jan 10, 2007, 03:04 pm

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Quote by: The_Genius

Afghan women and children belong to Al-Qaeda...

Iraqi and Lebanese women and children belong to Al-Qaeda...

Now even Somalians belong to Al-Qaeda....

What's next? North Koreans belong to Al-Qaeda?

Give me a break!!!

seems that the whole world belongs 2 al qaeda !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! subhana allah !!!!!

Praxius · Jan 10, 2007, 03:39 pm

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seems that the whole world belongs 2 al qaeda !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! subhana allah !!!!!

Well if it does, then We must be wrong.... let's all join them, lol.

Then again, I don't want to die and end up with 12 virgins or however many they claim.... virgins wouldn't have the first clue as to what to do..... I was 12 experienced tramps.

PatrickHenry · Jan 11, 2007, 12:41 am

Sounds like it's gunships, not bombs.
U.S. Launches New Attacks in Somalia, More U.S. Airstrikes in Somalia Target al-Qaida Terrorists Wanted for U.S. Embassy Bombings - CBS News

Either way, collateral damage from such strikes is counterproductive to the stated aims of stopping terrorism.

Such assaults are, in fact, themselves military terror from the sky. This is not the best way of stopping terrorism, but rather a means of stirring up more.

Pardon my cynicism about the US Empire...

I think the Islamic councils were getting close to bringing law and order to Somalia. The people there are sick of warlordism, but the US isn't.

jose · Jan 11, 2007, 09:29 am

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NAIROBI, Kenya - None of the top three suspected terrorists in Somalia were killed in a U.S. airstrike this week, but Somalis with close ties to al-Qaida were slain, a senior U.S. official in the region said Thursday.

U.S. hunts for key terrorists in Somalia - Yahoo! News
I hope it wasn´t another wedding party that got hit

Praxius · Jan 11, 2007, 10:31 am

Official: Somalia strike missed al Qaeda suspects - CNN.com

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None of the top three suspected terrorists in Somalia were killed in a U.S. airstrike this week, but Somalis with close ties to al Qaeda were killed, a senior U.S. official in the region said Thursday.

Hmmm...... Maximum offense = little results = more crap.

shrike · Jan 13, 2007, 09:05 am

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I think the Islamic councils were getting close to bringing law and order to Somalia. The people there are sick of warlordism, but the US isn't.

Yes Mussolini is too brought some order to Italy.Was it a good thing too?
I am would prefer anarchy over some crazy theocracy any time at least in first case I could defend my self.

rcne · Jan 13, 2007, 09:15 am

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I think the Islamic councils were getting close to bringing law and order to Somalia. The people there are sick of warlordism, but the US isn't.

The Law and Order of the Islamic Council was killing people for watching the World Cup of TV wasn't it PH. No thanks to this level of Law and Order, I'd prefer the martial law of today.

PatrickHenry · Jan 13, 2007, 06:31 pm

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The Law and Order of the Islamic Council was killing people for watching the World Cup of TV wasn't it PH. No thanks to this level of Law and Order, I'd prefer the martial law of today.

Got any substantiation of this, rcne?

Gods_Mercenary · Jan 13, 2007, 07:34 pm

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Pardon my cynicism about the US Empire...

How many empires rule nothing and are defied by pathetic european has beens, I don't think the U.S. currently counts as a real empire.

PatrickHenry · Jan 13, 2007, 08:24 pm

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How many empires rule nothing and are defied by pathetic european has beens, I don't think the U.S. currently counts as a real empire.

Depends on your definition of empire.

I think it qualifies and so do many in the establishment. However, they approve of imperialism, while I do not.

And your disdain for Europe aside, they have an economy that is roughly the equivalent of North America's with a larger market. I wouldn't term them "has beens", thinking it might sound ignorant of these facts. :eek:

Some might think it takes an Empire to topple a government with a substantial military a half a world away, capture and execute its leader and then threaten the neighboring country with the same treatment. All the while making no plans to exit the first country...

Gods_Mercenary · Jan 13, 2007, 08:26 pm

Military has beens, power has beens, not exactly candidates for the power centers of the world.

PatrickHenry · Jan 13, 2007, 08:40 pm

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Military has beens, power has beens, not exactly candidates for the power centers of the world.

This may soon be said of the USA.

We can always hope...

Gods_Mercenary · Jan 13, 2007, 08:42 pm

Ah, yes, a world ruled by China or India, who have no illusions about their own power hunger, would be much better, there will always be a new Empire to fill the power void.

ByaKya · Jan 13, 2007, 11:50 pm

Now that its clear only civilians have been killed in this strike, where are the pro-war clowns hiding at?

BobbyO, rcne, shrike ? do somalis now have a right to engage in their own war on terror and kill US troops and or agents or even american civilians in somalia? what about in other places in africa? Just like us right?
oh whats that? they are black and they dont have a right to do to us, what we have done to them? oh ok got it.

rcne · Jan 14, 2007, 06:51 am

I believe they have already bombed the embassy and killed Americans previously.

Black has nothing to do with it, think of Dufar in Sudan and the cause of the ongoing genocide.

Jan 9, 2007, 07:58 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
BobbyO Kuehnelt-Leddihn Location: Brookyn, USA Posts: 774	Bombing in Somalia Critics of the Bush Administration has condemned the war in Iraq as, among other things, a diversion from the war on terror, which will result mere in the inflaming of anti-Americanism and increase terrorism. Yesterday, an American warplane bombed a base in Somalia where it was believed those who were responsible for the '98 embassy bombings were residing. Is such a bombing against such a target a legitimate action in the war on terrorism?

Jan 9, 2007, 08:19 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
RickSp Volcanic Erupter Posts: 9,586	Yes, it is. Whether it is effective remains to be seen. Rick "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

Jan 10, 2007, 02:05 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
brien Iceberg Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,703	Gives new meaning to revenge is best eaten off a cold plate now, doesn't it? Brien the Iceberg If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything. M.T.

Jan 10, 2007, 02:20 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
The_Genius ~Ruthless Debater~ Location: Cape Town, South Africa. Posts: 433	Afghan women and children belong to Al-Qaeda... Iraqi and Lebanese women and children belong to Al-Qaeda... Now even Somalians belong to Al-Qaeda.... What's next? North Koreans belong to Al-Qaeda? Give me a break!!! www.islamawareness.net

Jan 11, 2007, 12:41 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,444	Sounds like it's gunships, not bombs. U.S. Launches New Attacks in Somalia, More U.S. Airstrikes in Somalia Target al-Qaida Terrorists Wanted for U.S. Embassy Bombings - CBS News Either way, collateral damage from such strikes is counterproductive to the stated aims of stopping terrorism. Such assaults are, in fact, themselves military terror from the sky. This is not the best way of stopping terrorism, but rather a means of stirring up more. Pardon my cynicism about the US Empire... I think the Islamic councils were getting close to bringing law and order to Somalia. The people there are sick of warlordism, but the US isn't. "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Jan 10, 2007, 02:19 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Praxius Mass'Debator Posts: 4,724	U.S. attacks may have killed Canadians in Somalia

Jan 13, 2007, 08:26 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
Gods_Mercenary Altruism Assassin Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,286	Military has beens, power has beens, not exactly candidates for the power centers of the world. “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” -Albert Einstein

Jan 13, 2007, 08:42 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
Gods_Mercenary Altruism Assassin Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,286	Ah, yes, a world ruled by China or India, who have no illusions about their own power hunger, would be much better, there will always be a new Empire to fill the power void. “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” -Albert Einstein

Jan 13, 2007, 11:50 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
ByaKya BANNED Posts: 1,372	Now that its clear only civilians have been killed in this strike, where are the pro-war clowns hiding at? BobbyO, rcne, shrike ? do somalis now have a right to engage in their own war on terror and kill US troops and or agents or even american civilians in somalia? what about in other places in africa? Just like us right? oh whats that? they are black and they dont have a right to do to us, what we have done to them? oh ok got it.

Jan 14, 2007, 06:51 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
rcne Moderator/nobody Posts: 1,566	I believe they have already bombed the embassy and killed Americans previously. Black has nothing to do with it, think of Dufar in Sudan and the cause of the ongoing genocide. Live Long and Prosper (Genetics and Capitalism)