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Old Jan 2, 2007, 05:35 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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George W Bush: A genius?

Someone said that George Bush is a genius compared to other leaders.

I say if he is such a genius, how has he managed to generate such rubbish approval ratings?
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Old Jan 2, 2007, 09:33 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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who's this someone?

3-toothed jethro from arkansas?


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Old Jan 2, 2007, 09:55 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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He's about as much of a genius as a monkey with a big red button that all of his owners try and make sure that he doesn't push.
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Old Jan 2, 2007, 10:42 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I truly believe he could be a martyr for his cause. I would never call such an idiot a genius, but I believe he was made into a martyr of his own cause by his own inclination to resemble such, by those who surround him in his administration.

The Iraq war has been botched so bad, our Constitution so butchered under these people, I find it hard to believe it was simply "bad planning".


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Old Jan 2, 2007, 10:46 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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who's this someone?

3-toothed jethro from arkansas?
I concur. Who's calling Bush a genius? His daughters?


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Old Jan 2, 2007, 10:57 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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as it is, our psychotic president said that he was ordered to invade iraq by god almighty himself.

'Bush says God sent him to war': World: News: News24

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London - United States President George W Bush believed that God told him to go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq, a senior Palestinian official says in a broadcast interview.

The BBC on Thursday released an excerpt from an interview with Palestinian information minister Nabil Shaath that was part of a series called "Israel and the Arabs".

Shaath described his first meeting, in company with Palestinian Prime Minister Abu Mazen, in June 2003.

He said that President Bush said to all of them: "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me: 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did.

"And then God would tell me: 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq.'

"And I did.

"And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me: 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.'

"And, by God, I'm gonna do it."

Abu Mazen told the BBC that, at the same meeting, Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."
genius? i think not. someone should've prescribed anti-psychotic meds to the retard. (or better yet, some powerful sedatives.)


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Old Jan 2, 2007, 02:47 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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I remember reading something from the AP that he nearly got a perfect on his SAT's and was accepted into Yale instantly. He graduated with a bachelor degree in History and was not kicked out for cheating (i.e. like Ted Kennedy). Either way he doesn't appear to act amazingly smart but he didn't do too bad in school.

Sorry I don't remember the exact date of the article but I bet you could find it with a Google Scholar search or something.


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Old Jan 2, 2007, 02:47 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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I say if he is such a genius, how has he managed to generate such rubbish approval ratings?
Well that's hardly what I'd call a well-calibrated yardstick. What with corporate-owned media pervading the US these days, the masses remain asses and it's as easy as pie to sell every one of them down the river for nickel a piece.

By the time they wake up (Iraq for example) it's way too late.


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Old Jan 2, 2007, 06:19 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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he's not a genius, hes a puppet. The other people in the administration are the smart, evil ones. He's just a nice friendly dumb face for the public. Dick Cheney, rumsfeld, rice, gonzalez, etc they are the cold, intelligent ones rhat are controlling him.
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Old Jan 3, 2007, 03:09 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Read "Bush on the Couch" for a psychological profile on the genius.

I agree with Another Day; he's a puppet, designed to put out for the public every now and then who will assure the poor,bewildered, ignorant masses that, yes, everything is fine, just around the corner, whatever, Meanwhile, career politicians, businessmen and those f*cking lobbyists make backroom deals to ensure workers and poor people are never properly paid and never properly represented in the government; the public is none the wiser, business as uaual, go on about your lives.

That's why when people joke about assassinating Bush, I just tell them then Cheney will be President.

The man is no genius, just a pawn for the real government who has all his descions, actions, moves and ideas handed down to him from on Right-Wing high, and he does what he's told. That's why we won't leave Iraq; it's not that Bush doesn't nessecarily want to, it's that the grand archiects of the PNAC need that foothold in the Middle East to have a firm grasp on the most unstable region in the world.


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Old Jan 3, 2007, 04:02 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Someone said that George Bush is a genius compared to other leaders.

I say if he is such a genius, how has he managed to generate such rubbish approval ratings?
Who are you talking about. Even a large number of conservatives see him as he is a douche-bag.
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Old Jan 3, 2007, 04:43 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Not trying to sound like I think Bush is the brightest guy in the world but...

Approval Ratings =/= Intelligence

Case in point, Jimmy Carter. He had a 34% approval rating when he left office and he had an IQ of 175 or 176.

For that matter...

Intelligence =/= Good Leadership Skills either. So Bush kinda takes a double whammy.


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Old Jan 3, 2007, 05:41 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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I don’t think Mr. Bush is a genius or the best president.

I do find it disturbing how some of you can sit there and beat this man to shit when you clearly don’t know what it is like to be president.
How can you sit there, throw stones and judge a man personally about something that you yourself would undoubtedly suck at?
Is it because you’ve watched the news, read presidency for dummies and lead the dungeons and dragons club of America?
Now you feel you’re a qualified political annalist ready to defame the president?
Walk a day in his shoes, and then judge him. Until then, shut the hell up
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Old Jan 3, 2007, 06:12 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Is it because you’ve watched the news, read presidency for dummies and lead the dungeons and dragons club of America?
Make that "Skulls and Bones" and you've just described Bush.

He works for the American people. We know what his responsibilities are and we can compare his performance to others who have held the same position. Since when is the president above reproach? Since when is he exempt from criticism? If he does a poor job, and many think he has, it's our obligation as his employer to let him know we expect better.


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Old Jan 3, 2007, 06:20 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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And while I would agree with you, criticism does NOT involve defamation of character.

You don’t go over to your friend, slap the finishing pole out of his hand and say “you’re doing it all wrong you fat idiot”. If you want to criticize, criticize, don’t throw stones.
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...How can you sit there, throw stones and judge a man personally about something that you yourself would undoubtedly suck at...Walk a day in his shoes, and then judge him. Until then, shut the hell up.
So only people who have been President before can critique Bush's performance?

This is such a dumb rationale. This man is President of the United States. If he's running the country into the ground, am I not allowed to say something on the gounds that I have never been President myself?

Shame, that some people willingly bow their heads to the corruption of power.


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Old Jan 3, 2007, 06:23 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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I don’t think Mr. Bush is a genius or the best president.

I do find it disturbing how some of you can sit there and beat this man to shit when you clearly don’t know what it is like to be president.
How can you sit there, throw stones and judge a man personally about something that you yourself would undoubtedly suck at?
Is it because you’ve watched the news, read presidency for dummies and lead the dungeons and dragons club of America?
Now you feel you’re a qualified political annalist ready to defame the president?
Walk a day in his shoes, and then judge him. Until then, shut the hell up
I don't know how it is to be president. But I DO know how HE is as president. Don't assume we cannot judge this guy because we don't know how tough the job is. His is a VOLUNTARY position and he fails miserably at it. If it's too hard for him he should have considered that before he spent dozens of Millions of other people's money and not run. And if the job caught him by surprise that's too bad. It's part of the job.

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Old Jan 3, 2007, 06:34 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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So only people who have been President before can critique Bush's performance?

This is such a dumb rationale. This man is President of the United States. If he's running the country into the ground, am I not allowed to say something on the gounds that I have never been President myself?

Shame, that some people willingly bow their heads to the corruption of power.
You know not what you speak of.

Maybe we should put a democrat in office? That way, the terrorist can blow up ships, barracks and buildings unmolested.
If Clinton would have did something the first time they hit the towers the towers would still be standing and the USS Cole wouldn’t have a gaping freaking hole in it.
Maybe you like free handouts. Maybe you want government run schools and medical care. Maybe you want to live in a quasi socialistic society ran by the democrats.

Hey we can assume our pre World War II isolationist stance again. Would that make you happy?
Do like seeing terrorist blow shit up and you socialistic democratic government do nothing about it?

Here is a little fun fact for you. How many successful terrorist attacks were there win Clinton was in office? At least 3

Now how many since Bush? I only remember one.
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I don't know how it is to be president. But I DO know how HE is as president. Don't assume we cannot judge this guy because we don't know how tough the job is. His is a VOLUNTARY position and he fails miserably at it. If it's too hard for him he should have considered that before he spent dozens of Millions of other people's money and not run. And if the job caught him by surprise that's too bad. It's part of the job.

Great men are made great by circumstances that are thrust upon them. Failures are made the same way.
What would you do? Maybe say something like “please don’t fly planes into our buildings and I would appreciate it if you wouldn’t commit mass genocide. Oh and maybe you could stop manufacturing nuclear weapons. If you do this again, we will get very mad and fire a missile at you”.

“Don’t worry though, although we are the only super power we won’t fight you. If by chance we do, we will run at the first sight of blood, much like Somalia “
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Old Jan 3, 2007, 06:54 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Good points. Exactly why some of us are totally fed up with the bungling of both parties. They've all been in power so long they've forgotten everything except exercising their power.
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