What Would Condi Do for America?

[Right of Center]

Here are some links about Condi's background and experience:
US State Department
BBC News
Run Rice 2008

Here are some questions:
1. What would Condi do to the many African Americans that vote Democrat?
2. Is America ready for a black female for a President?
3. If Republicans nominate her how will Democrats respond? (other than nominate Hillary)
4. Is she qualified?
5. How is she better than other Republican nominees?
6. How is she worse than other Republican nominees?

[Zeebadee]

Gimme a break. Condi is forever identified with the failed war in Iraq. When bush departs his office, that's the last we will hear of this particular bushbot. She signed on to be a lackey to the most ignorant president ever elected, total obscurity is exactly what she has earned and deserves.

[Right of Center]

Quote by: Zeebadee Gimme a break. Condi is forever identified with the failed war in Iraq. When bush departs his office, that's the last we will hear of this particular bushbot. She signed on to be a lackey to the most ignorant president ever elected, total obscurity is exactly what she has earned and deserves.

Hmmm. Interesting point of view I suppose. Exactly what is your grounds for not voting for her other than her superior's support of the Iraq War?

[Scribbler1]

BBC Article When the Bush administration came to power, her influence over early foreign policy strategy was considerable. She led the tricky negotiations with Russia over missile defence, and is thought to have spearheaded the unilateralist tone of the first months of the Bush presidency. But it was in the wake of the 11 September 2001 attacks in Washington and New York that she really proved her strength, standing staunchly by the president during the difficult days ahead and the subsequent wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. She is thought to be one of the most significant creators of the controversial Bush doctrine of pre-emptive action against states thought to be a threat against the US.

THAT'S why she shouldn't be president, for starters. A "trusted advisor" to arguably the worst president in the history of the US is hardly a reason to want her as president.

[Zeebadee]

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[PatrickHenry]

Ms Rice will never be nominated by the Republican Party.

She lied to the nation and to the 9/11 Commission. She's certainly not a politician, but more of an academic. But liars can be nominated. Look at Billy C.

Her problem is she's identifiably black, and the GOP won't be nominating a black presidential candidate for decades.

I wonder if she's lesbian...

[RickSp]

Condi's a lying lackey with the charisma of steamed carrots. She doesn't even lie well. (She does roll over and bark on queue however.) She has zero chance of being nominated, nor does she deserved the nomination. The bloody fiasco in Iraq, which will only get worse between now and 2008, precludes any real future in politics for Ms. Rice.

[xyzer]

Condi's a lying lackey with the charisma of steamed carrots

I don't agree with that asertion and I doubt whether you can prove it Rick?

I agree with zee...she is tainted with the Democrat smears of the Bush Administration and wouldn't stand much of a chance as a Presidential candidate..Perhaps she might fit as a vicepresidentail candidate with someone like McCain? She is pretty well educated and certainly expert in the forein affairs field..

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Rick Condi's a lying lackey Quote by: xyzer I don't agree with that asertion and I doubt whether you can prove it Rick? I agree with zee...she is tainted with the Democrat smears .........

You need to tune in 60 Minutes tonight:

source 60 Minutes: CIA Official Reveals Bush, Cheney, Rice Were Personally Told Iraq Had No WMD in Fall 2002 Tonight on 60 Minutes, Tyler Drumheller, the former chief of the CIA’s Europe division, revealed that in the fall of 2002, President Bush, Vice President Cheney, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and others were told by CIA Director George Tenet that Iraq’s foreign minister — who agreed to act as a spy for the United States — had reported that Iraq had no active weapons of mass destruction program. Watch it: BRADLEY: According to Drumheller, CIA Director George Tenet delivered the news about the Iraqi foreign minister at a high level meeting at the White House. DRUMHELLER: The President, the Vice President, Dr. Rice… BRADLEY: And at that meeting…? DRUMHELLER: They were enthusiastic because they said they were excited that we had a high-level penetration of Iraqis. BRADLEY: And what did this high level source tell you? DRUMHELLER: He told us that they had no active weapons of mass destruction program. BRADLEY: So, in the fall of 2002, before going to war, we had it on good authority from a source within Saddam’s inner circle that he didn’t have an active program for weapons of mass destruction? DRUMHELLER: Yes. BRADLEY: There’s no doubt in your mind about that? DRUMHELLER: No doubt in my mind at all. BRADLEY: It directly contradicts, though, what the President and his staff were telling us. DRUMHELLER: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming, and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy, to justify the policy. Read the full transcript HERE. UPDATE: More at CBS News.

Do we really need scumbags like her in ANY public office? She is a disgrace to our country. A Traitor!!

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: xyzer I don't agree with that asertion and I doubt whether you can prove it Rick? I agree with zee...she is tainted with the Democrat smears of the Bush Administration and wouldn't stand much of a chance as a Presidential candidate..Perhaps she might fit as a vicepresidentail candidate with someone like McCain? She is pretty well educated and certainly expert in the forein affairs field..

Which foreign affairs field? The one where we look like liars, or the one where we look like paper tigers who can't even beat a defenseless and broken country like Iraq?
I'll say this much. You never disappoint when it comes to baseless right wing adoration.
I see the "logic" as since some people love Bush unconditionally, therefore ANYONE associated with him must be presidential material. I'll leave the most obvious error in that logic for now. But there is plenty more, and most of it has been already mentioned. Never mind the lack of political experience, the fact that she was instrumental in forming Bush's foreign police and has never held an office. She likes Bush and he likes her, and that's enough for you. Pathetic.

It's like saying Bill Gates' third cousin's brother-in-law is a perfect choice for CEO of a software company because he and Bill get along at Thanksgiving dinner and they talk about computer companies afterward.

[bishop]

when bush is gone, i want his entire administration and all vestiges of his neocon idiocy to leave. so, no way in hell would i support condi rice. her being black and/or female is of no consequence - her inescapable connection to bush's failed policies is what matters most.

and in the same regard, i won't support any candidate whose policies remotely mirror bush's. that eliminates mccain and his idiotic plan to increase troop levels - as if we never learned our lesson from fallujah that we can't win this quagmire militarily.. that probably eliminates all republicans and the majority of democrats as well.

the only candidate i'll vote for in the upcoming elections will support withdrawal from iraq, and will support balancing the damned budget.

Quote by: rick Condi's a lying lackey with the charisma of steamed carrots.

heh... steamed carrots. nice.

[Osborn F Enready]

I don't like Condi.

The first reason I wouldn't vote for her.... she belongs to one of the two major problems.(Repulicans and Democrats)

The second reason is she has shown her intellectual dishonesty in several questions and answers sessions about Iraq, motivation for the Iraq war, and all details surrounding 9-11 and the Iraq war.

The biggest reason I wouldn't vote for her, I beleive we need a blanket removal of all incumbents, since the corruption in place has saturated to solid footholds all throughout the system.

[xyzer]

gr8...The key words which are ignored by zealots?

DRUMHELLER: He told us that they had no active weapons of mass destruction program.

We see this presented as excluding the fact that inactive programs,WMD in the Chemical and Biological fields, can be reconstituted in a matter of weeks or months.We have been repeatedly misled by the MS press and anti war zealots who are great at building proverbial mountains out of shreds? Nuclear programs(which take years and much equipment to develop) are routinely mixed and reported with the other WMD capabilities which are much easier to prepare?..These Chemical weapons are the ones Saddam actually used agains the Kurds? We have seen evidence that delivery vehicles for such matter had been buried?
We also lose sight of the fact that Saddam was uncooperative and devious with UN inspectors..Why? Would not this indicate that the high level Iraqi, who we now impute with honesty because CBS says so, was lying also?
I know what you are going to say to that one...It's all Bush fault..or it's all Colin Powells/Condi Rices...fault? Why are some so ready to believe an enemy over a Republican? It puzzles me?

I would conclude this is just more of the hype that CBS is famous for? It's the Rather influence? To heck with the reality of the situation...ignore that and hypothesize from one barely related statement? Believe the most probable liar you can find and mistrust your own government?

[RickSp]

Quote by: xyzer I don't agree with that asertion and I doubt whether you can prove it Rick?

Which part don't you agree with? Lying lackey or the charisma of steamed carrots? The first is pretty obvious while the second is more subjective. Stewed beats might have been a better metaphor.

She lied about AlQaeda's ties to Saddam, about WMD and about what Bush knew prior to 9/11. She had been briefed that the aluminum tubes were not for centrifuges before her famous statement about a "smoking gun" turning into a "mushroom cloud".

Rice: ‘There Were Ties Going On Between Al Qaeda And Saddam Hussein’

Condoleeza Rice lies about WMD and Iraq

Condi Rice, 9/11 and Another Nest of Lies

[Epistemologist]

No. Did somebody say Mcquagmire?

Also, I don't like her teeth. She seems pretty smart, but her views are quite unpleasant.

[jose]

I will remember her as a ¨member of the government¨ who went shoe shopping while New Orleans was drowning

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: jose I will remember her as a jiggerboo who went shoe shopping while New Orleans where drowning

I hope that's not a racial slur, jose. It's Ms Rice' behavior/character that's the issue, not her race. Except for the fact that the Republican Party is a party exclusively for whites and white wannabes, so they won't nominate a black for their Presidential candidate.

[jose]

1. in the spike lee movie "school daze" the light skinned sorority sisters refer to the darker sisters of a different sorority as ugly "jiggaboos

[PatrickHenry]

Damn. I thought that's what you meant, jose. That's unacceptable.

[jose]

If you find that word offensive i will remove it