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Old May 11, 2004, 08:41 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Why is it an admitted, from his own mouth, war criminal, is given a free pass on his actions? And why is it this SAME, from his OWN admission war criminal is not only a US Senator, but now the DNC presidential canidate?

I mean, come on, shouldn't that cause some outrage here? Surely an admitted commiter of crimes agaisnt humanity should be investigated and prosecuted shoudln't he?

Or does no one care?


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old May 11, 2004, 09:37 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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What story are you talking about, here? I'd care more if I heard something about all this... perhaps you could enlighten me, this sounds interesting.
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Old May 11, 2004, 10:06 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Well you see the U.S. in living large and in charge and their not about to commit however many thousands of troops and commanders did the same. That would mean they might have to admit they were wrong.
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Old May 11, 2004, 10:09 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Sigh... I don't think THIS is the reason he shouldn't be the DNC candidate... how about the fact that he probably didn't even win Iowa.
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Old May 11, 2004, 10:16 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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You want to tell us what you're talking about?


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Old May 11, 2004, 10:31 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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It just doesn't make any sense to me that Kerry won, sorry. I don't believe it.
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Old May 12, 2004, 12:14 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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You guys really haven't seen the Kerry "I committed war crimes in Vietnam!" Interview?? Wow you should.


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old May 12, 2004, 12:20 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Old May 12, 2004, 12:41 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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You guys really haven't seen the Kerry "I committed war crimes in Vietnam!" Interview?? Wow you should.
He probably admitted it before he decided he didn't do it. Or they were ribbons not medals and they don't mean anything anyhow.
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Old May 12, 2004, 12:50 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Well, if your dad was influential enough, you could go AWOL for months, hide it and become President! What can ya say? Scum floats!!


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Old May 12, 2004, 12:50 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old May 12, 2004, 12:52 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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No reasonable person can conclude Bush was AWOL for "months" thats just BS. Of course, if you don't look at the mans record from the guard, and realize that guardsman do miss meetings, regualarly, well.. I guess you could call it awol.
I call it being a sheeple for the news. Buts just me.


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Old May 12, 2004, 01:00 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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As bad as Bush has turned out to be, Kerry would be even worse. Perhaps the dems will recognize this and find a more viable candidate. I believe, however, that the dems don't really think they can win this year and are just running Kerry so a real candidate doesn't take the loss. Similar to what the reps did when they ran Bob Dole. Looking at our apparent choices in the upcoming election is extremely depressing.


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Old May 12, 2004, 01:06 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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No reasonable person can conclude Bush was AWOL for "months" thats just BS. Of course, if you don't look at the mans record from the guard, and realize that guardsman do miss meetings, regualarly, well.. I guess you could call it awol.
I call it being a sheeple for the news. Buts just me.
It's a bit more than that. He didn't show up AT ALL once he was transferred. We went to work on a campaign instead.


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Old May 12, 2004, 02:08 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Geez boys and girls, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel trying this line. By your logic, Bush shouldn't be president because he was accused of rape. In any case, that prattlers are pushing the agenda of the recently formed swiftboat veterans organization. Trace the history of its founder and you will get a laugh.
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Old May 12, 2004, 02:08 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Mr.Vicchio,
No reasonable person can conclude Bush was AWOL for "months" thats just BS. Of course, if you don't look at the mans record from the guard, and realize that guardsman do miss meetings, regualarly, well.. I guess you could call it awol. I call it being a sheeple for the news. Buts just me.
Actually it's probably more like desertion:
AWOL----absent for 30 days or less.
Desertion-----absent for more than 30 days with evidence of no intent to return to duty. Seems like the CinC never even bothered to show up for duty in Alabama.
http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=165
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Bush never showed up in Alabama Air National Guard when directly ordered to do so, after requesting a transfer to work in Alabama.
His Commanding Officer, William Turnipseed, says he did not show up.

"To my knowledge, he never showed up," Turnipseed said last month. [Boston Globe 5/23/00] In interviews last week, Turnipseed and his administrative officer at the time, Kenneth K. Lott, said they had no memory of Bush ever reporting. ''Had he reported in, I would have had some recall, and I do not,'' Turnipseed said. ''I had been in Texas, done my flight training there. If we had had a first lieutenant from Texas, I would have remembered.'' Turnipseed also reports that the then-squadron operations officer of the Alabama Guard also has no recollection of having seen Bush.(The New Republic 10/16/2000)

“Furthermore, a spokesman for the Alabama National Guard estimates there were 600 to 700 members in the unit Bush was supposed to have served with in 1972. But none of these men has ever come forward to say he remembers Bush, and Bush has not named a single one of them.”(The New Republic 10/16/2000)
Another source for the disappearing guardsman:
http://www.awolbush.com/

But hey, I'm not partial. Like I said in my previous post, "Scum floats!!"








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Old May 12, 2004, 02:47 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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PH I took you for a somewhat reasonable fellow. Now I see you for whaat you truly are. Tottaly engulfed in your own world.


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Old May 12, 2004, 02:54 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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PH I took you for a somewhat reasonable fellow. Now I see you for whaat you truly are. Tottaly engulfed in your own world.
Goodness but you're funny. Let's see another of your comments:

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No reasonable person can conclude Bush was AWOL for "months" thats just BS. Of course, if you don't look at the mans record from the guard, and realize that guardsman do miss meetings, regualarly, well.. I guess you could call it awol.
I call it being a sheeple for the news. Buts just me
Then why is it that theo nly person who can remember Bush being in Alabama had the dates wrong? Despite some excellent offers of cash for someone to come forward, none have. Bush's records do not resolve the questions. In any case, Bush showed what a hero he was, he didn't want to serve overseas and he didn't fully serve the duty he used to avoid the draft. And you claim other live in their own little world. Oh go on, pull the other one, it plays Jingel Bells.
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Old May 12, 2004, 02:55 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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PH I took you for a somewhat reasonable fellow. Now I see you for whaat you truly are. Tottaly engulfed in your own world.
Wha? I posted a cartoon about your enemy Kerry, too!! Come on Mr.V let it out and laugh a little. Just admit that W is as much of a scumbag as the other Skull and Bonesman

He deserted. He got the Supremes to put him in. He got you to believe in him. He siezed Iraq. He made your buddies come home on boxes. Just spit in his direction and walk away...


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Old May 12, 2004, 03:05 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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From: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/03/...ain615317.shtml

"One way to resolve all of these questions is for both candidates to sign a "release authorization form," which would allow the National Personnel Records in St. Louis to provide any interested party with their complete documents. Mr. Bush has not signed one so far and the White House says he has no plans to do so. Sen. Kerry has not signed the form either, although no one contacted for this article suggested that documents are missing from Kerry's record. The Kerry campaign would not say whether the senator had any plans to sign a release authorization in the future."


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