French troops prepare guns against IAF jets

[bishop]

it'd be something interesting to see the french fire on illegal israeli incursions into lebanese airspace... i dare say, i'd almost want to see it happen - to finally see someone put the israelis in their place.


http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/Art...329413,00.html

French UN anti-aircraft batteries have taken "preparatory steps" to respond to Israeli jets violating Lebanese airspace, despite global criticism of such incursions. "The anti-aircraft unit of the (French) battalion took initial preparatory steps to respond to these actions," Milos Strugar, spokesman for the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) told AFP on Friday. He said "UNIFIL observed and reported 14 Israeli air violations this morning, on November 17, 2006, and 11 of these violations occurred in the area of operation of the French battalion with UNIFIL." UNIFIL Force Commander General Alain Pellegrini "strongly protested to the Israeli authorities and asked them to cease these actions which are unacceptable and in violation of Resolution 1701," the spokesman said. Strugar said the French battalion took action to respond "in accordance with UNIFIL rules of engagements and UN Security Council Resolution 1701." "They stipulate that in implementing their mandate, all UNIFIL troops may exercise the inherent right of self-defense and take all necessary action to protect UN personnel, facilities, installations and equipment," he said. 'Circling above French battalion headquarters' Strugar said the overflights took place in the central sector of southern Lebanon where the multinational UNIFIL force was boosted to more than 9,000 troops after the Israeli-Hizbullah war in July and August. "In one instance, two Israeli F15 jets flew over the area at low altitude and high speed," he said. "At the same time, two Israeli reconnaissance RC12 aircraft were circling above the headquarters of the French battalion located in Jabal Marun," east of the southern port city of Tyre, he said. When asked about Friday's overflights, an Israeli military spokesman in Jerusalem said only: "We don't elaborate on aerial activity". On October 31, the French UNIFIL forces came within seconds of firing at Israeli aircraft when they overflew UN positions in southern Lebanon, sparking an official complaint from Paris against the overflights.

[shrike]

it'd be something interesting to see the french fire on illegal israeli incursions into lebanese airspace... i dare say, i'd almost want to see it happen - to finally see someone put the israelis in their place. http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/Art...329413,00.html

Yes they bold against Israel but why they doing nothing to stop Hezbollah weapon smuggling and disarm it as it stated in UNSC resolution?

[shield772]

Quote by: bishop it'd be something interesting to see the french fire on illegal israeli incursions into lebanese airspace... i dare say, i'd almost want to see it happen - to finally see someone put the israelis in their place. http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/Art...329413,00.html

Hey Hitler tried to put them in their place once didn't he?:eek:

[bishop]

Quote by: shield Hey Hitler tried to put them in their place once didn't he?

the two situations are hardly comparable, and a laughable attempt on your part... under hitler, the jews were a weak and nationless people... now, they're armed to the teeth with the best weapons in the world, and a nuclear and regional powerhouse.

Quote by: shrike Yes they bold against Israel but why they doing nothing to stop Hezbollah weapon smuggling and disarm it as it stated in UNSC resolution?

plugging smuggling routes and disarming hezbollah is a lebanese responsibility - not an israeli responsibility. israel's responsibility under unscr 1701 are to stay out of lebanon.

also, the resolution doesn't stipulate any timetable for when this must be completed, hezbollah has not broken the ceasefire in the past several weeks/months... the lebanese have bigger priorities, such as rebuilding the country after the savage israelis destroyed it. not to mention that the lebanese military probably couldn't disarm them if they tried - and israel played a key role in weakening the lebanese military.

[shrike]

plugging smuggling routes and disarming hezbollah is a lebanese responsibility - not an israeli responsibility. israel's responsibility under unscr 1701 are to stay out of lebanon. also, the resolution doesn't stipulate any timetable for when this must be completed, hezbollah has not broken the ceasefire in the past several weeks/months... the lebanese have bigger priorities, such as rebuilding the country after the savage israelis destroyed it. not to mention that the lebanese military probably couldn't disarm them if they tried - and israel played a key role in weakening the lebanese military

They Hezbollah broking the Resolution repeatedly every second they bear arms.
So according to you Israel should follow the resolution but Lebanon shouldn’t(the reasons really don’t matter).I think its clear double standards as always.

[bishop]

that's great and all, but israel is expected to abide by the resolution, which UNIFIL is working to enforce.

like i said, i'd almost want to see the french fire on israeli jets when they illegally enter lebanese airspace.

and i should add, buzzing french troops has NOTHING to do with working to stop arms smuggling..

[shrike]

that's great and all, but israel is expected to abide by the resolution, which UNIFIL is working to enforce.

Don't you think it should be bilateral?

[bishop]

no, what the resolution says is clear..

and i'll repeat - after israel's trashing of lebanon, it has many bigger problems to take care of than focusing on going to war with hezbollah. your country destroyed its infrastructure, its economy, and littered the place with tens/hundreds of thousands of undetonated cluster bombs - waiting to murder hapless civilians..

[shield772]

So Isreal is again going to be denied it's right to defend itself against attacks from state sponsored terrorist groups?

[shield772]

Quote by: bishop the two situations are hardly comparable, and a laughable attempt on your part... under hitler, the jews were a weak and nationless people... now, they're armed to the teeth with the best weapons in the world, and a nuclear and regional powerhouse.

I was making a ridiculous statement on purpouse, why do people continue to defend terrorist groups and states against Isreal which is only attempting to defend itself.

[bishop]

defending itself and completely destroying a country are again, completely different...

[shield772]

How

[shield772]

What did we do to Germany and Japan, we were defending ourselves.

[Clarence]

i dare say, i'd almost want to see it happen - to finally see someone put the israelis in their place.

Well that would divide the world between the French and Isreal. I don't know. I think the U.S should be the one to assert themselves against Isreal. They are fucking up our roadmap to peace, right?

and i should add, buzzing french troops has NOTHING to do with working to stop arms smuggling..

for real

Don't you think it should be bilateral?

this situation should be omnilateral. It doesn't help that Isreal has been acting like savages while trying to condemn those they deem savages.

So Isreal is again going to be denied it's right to defend itself against attacks from state sponsored terrorist groups?

...you might be a neo-con.

[shrike]

Quote by: bishop no, what the resolution says is clear

Yes it is

• Hezbollah to be disarmed (OP3)
• Full control of Lebanon by the government of Lebanon (OP3)
• No paramilitary forces, including (and implying) Hezbollah, will be south of the Litani River (OP8)

Are you saying that this requirements are fulfilled?

and i'll repeat - after israel's trashing of lebanon, it has many bigger problems to take care of than focusing on going to war with hezbollah. your country destroyed its infrastructure, its economy, and littered the place with tens/hundreds of thousands of undetonated cluster bombs - waiting to murder hapless civilians..

I really don’t care for real or imaginative reasons claimed by you or Lebanon government like you said "what the resolution says is clear"".
Israel have too reasons for over flights-the kidnapped soldiers. I don't say its justified but why one of the parties should be abided by resolution and other is not. Its just plan hypocrisy and double standards.

[bishop]

Quote by: clarence Well that would divide the world between the French and Isreal. I don't know. I think the U.S should be the one to assert themselves against Isreal.

i don't see anyone in the security council supporting israeli attacks against the french - and the french have clearly defined rules of engagement (i don't think they'll be so stupid to violate them).. at the worst, the french will fire warning shots and there will be a big uproar, resulting in reinforced support for unifil's mission. that's my hunch at least..

and thinking that the u.s. will assert anything against israel is just a bad joke.. that worthless welfare state always gets whatever it wants from our pockets.

[bishop]

Quote by: shrike Are you saying that this requirements are fulfilled?

while you're quoting parts of the resolution, can you cite a clause saying that israel has the freedom to enforce the resolution?

[shrike]

while you're quoting parts of the resolution, can you cite a clause saying that israel has the freedom to enforce the resolution?

What is has to do with everything? I am asking you again why Lebanon is excused to abide the resolution but Israel should?

[bishop]

lebanon doesn't have the ability to focus on hezbollah while its infrastructure is a mess and its citizenry is at risk. perhaps israel shouldn't have decided to destroy lebanon in their characteristically savage campaign.

[shield772]

But Lebanon is a state sponsor of terrorism against Isreal, why should they be exempt from attack?