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Old May 8, 2004, 09:42 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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In my local paper this morning a fellow Republican was calling democrats non support of Bush during War...Treason. I know that this is an election year, during Wartime, but for one side to accuse the other of Treason in May...that's a touch early. Democrats say Move on, Republicans coined the phrase "Moving forward". Democrats say "7 trillion dollar debt" , Republicans say "Clinton signed us up for Nafta". Dems say "where's the WMD" , Reps say "Moveon.org retoric". Dems think "Bush is responsible for 9/11" and Reps say "Kerry campaign propaganda". The Nation is split right down the middle, and no one is saying that these two Men are Frat brothers. Bush was Awol, Kerry didn't throw his medals...do ribbons count? Bush is a Bin Laden capture away from not having to worry about Kerry. Kerry is a Nader pre-election exit away from not having to worry about Bush. Americans are forced to choose, Bush - 2000 election, long vacation, 9/11, Christian values marching to War, WMD Lie, shady Business deals, Enron, Cheney n Haliburton, Rummi neglecting to curve prison conditions, Ashecroft & Wolfowitz blaming a wall, America hated throughout the World, and Major Job Loss.
Kerry - Most Liberal ever, pro gay rights, Jewish Bonesmen, shunned Catholic, Medals or ribbons, rich wife, flipper flopper, botox, baby killin, voted for it before i voted against it, mouthpiece Teddy K's best buddy, admitted to War crimes, gonna raise your Gas tax, doesn't support our troops...did i say most Liberal ever.

It would be hard to find Men who were more capable than these two at making the hatred boil from the opposite sides of the aisle.

If the Democrat primaries weren't fixed, then that means the Democrats are dumber than Bush. All they had to do was pick a candidate that had crossover potential, with the least amount of attackable positions...and Bush would of been Gone. Edwards could of grilled Bush in any Debate and the only thing he was attackable on was him being a Lawyer. Kerry is a Lawyer too. Would they of attacked him for coming from nothing to having money (American dream) as easily as they can say that Kerry married into money?

I'm tired of it all, I'm done, finished, finito...Nader can't win even though he's the only one saying bring the troops home. Voting for either Kerry or Bush would be a horrible waste of gas spent driving to and from the Poll.

Some of You might not get the reason why this Republican is angry, but the reason is because i'm well informed. If your not in daily contact with a 30 year military veteran that has supreme security clearance, then you should be reading what i write. To help you, i strongly suggest you read te following site, www.wanttoknow.info each statement is backed up by a major media source. Then go to google and type in "bush kerry skulls" this will bring up many sites, one of these sites has a list of Yale Bonesmen, which includes Bush 41 & 43, Cheney, & Yes Kerry. So you need to stop thinking in terms of Party Wars, and start asking yourself 3 questions which are more important than any others.

1 - Does America get involved in any War, without 9/11?

2 - Why are Your only serious choices for President both members of a super secret Fraternity that answers to a group of Brits namely the Builderburgers?

3 - If You Run the Carlyle group (Major defense investor) and Your son is President taking the Country into two Wars that You his father profit greatly from...could it be possible that in order to make this obscene amount of money, that you'd use your CIA contacts (Bush 41 was former CIA head) and pull whatever strings possible in order to get elected, then wouldn't you have to allow 9/11 so that the two Wars would then be possible, You'd have to surround yourself with people who would also be "On the Take" in order to keep what you were doing secret, you'd need Bin Laden in Afghanistan, You'd need uneducated Americans who thought you were here to protect them, You'd not want any 9/11 inquiry, You'd not wanna testify Publically or under oath, and you'd want the current head of the CIA to be a close personal friend of the family...atleast if you meant to get away with it, right?



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Old May 8, 2004, 10:47 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Interesting rant. It's so hard to connect the dots but things sure seem pretty grim, huh? When you add up all the sh@t you stop thinking it's as random as they say it is. Did you know that Clinton was at the Bilderberg conference before he'd even announced his candidacy for pres? Weird, no one had even heard of him yet...But we're just crazy, aren't we?
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Old May 8, 2004, 12:32 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by roxdog,
Interesting rant. It's so hard to connect the dots but things sure seem pretty grim, huh? When you add up all the sh@t you stop thinking it's as random as they say it is. Did you know that Clinton was at the Bilderberg conference before he'd even announced his candidacy for pres? Weird, no one had even heard of him yet...But we're just crazy, aren't we?
Oh, you can believe or disbelieve so many things. The one thing we couldn't deny before Bush became President is that we were on the rapid road to the One World Order, as perceived and sanctioned by the UN and many socialist countries, particularly those in Europe. I thought Bush II was a one worlder, but he's sure going about it in a strange way by alienating most of the more influential countries in the world.

Bush II seems less a one worlder than any other President in modern times. That is my dilemma. I would never vote for Kerry. He is a One worlder and a socialist. Bush has me confused. He has done some things I am totally against, like amnesty for illegal aliens and his support of Ted Kennedy's education bill which Ted now uses against him.

Besides the Bilderbergs, I don't think he even belongs to the Tri-laterals. He seems to be much less involved in these types of organizations, than many of our former Presidents and their cabinets. Perhaps the Skull and Bones was an anomaly because he came from a prestigious family.
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Old May 8, 2004, 12:41 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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You could look at it like America is playing the bad cop while the EU and the UN are the good cop. Bush II signed with UNESCO, an organisation founded on breaking up the family and bringing about world socialism.
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Old May 8, 2004, 01:29 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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You could look at it like America is playing the bad cop while the EU and the UN are the good cop. Bush II signed with UNESCO, an organisation founded on breaking up the family and bringing about world socialism.
Except the UN and the EU are not good anything where the US is concerned. It's our Constitution that they want to destroy because our Constitution is what sets the US apart from every other country in the world. Although we have insiders working on doing the same thing.

Bush may also be inclined towards socialism. His religious affiliation probably stresses that to some degree. Most Democrats think Bush is very conservative, but he isn't. He's a moderate conservative but because he believes in God and goes to church and because he is against abortion, he appears to Dems to be ultra conservative. It takes more than that to be ultra conservative. He just doesn't fit that mold.
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Old May 8, 2004, 04:22 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Maybe this helps. Many who haven't intently studied the Hegilan dialectic become confused by their halls of mirrors. Keep your eye on their stated objectives...
From: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/05/287424.shtml
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Sodomizing female prisoners, documented on camera, was ordered and condoned by the intelligence agencies, not only to defile and humiliate the prisoners - and defile the soldiers themselves - but to severely tarnish the reputation of America (even more than it already was) with the help of 60 Minutes, and all involved in now suddenly exposing it.
Torture has been exposed in Guantanamo Bay for over 2 years now. Torture and other abuses of prisoners in Iraq by coalition forces has been known for over a year since the invasion. Yet, all have been downplayed by the mainstream media.

Until now. Why? Think about it.

In other words, this latest round of abuse was all staged and meticulously documented, and now heavily hyped in the media as part of the overall plan to make America into the Bad-Cop Evil Empire which will have to be brought down to heel by the global system Good-Cops.

Hegelian Bonesman heirarch, George Bush Sr stated that Iraq was the "Crucible of the New World Order", the vessel wherein the alchemical process of creating a world government tyranny under the thoroughly corrupt UN would occur. The whole mess there is called "Managed Chaos" or Order Out of Chaos, ie, the masonic Ordo Ab Chao. A set up. A totally staged event.

They create the Hegelian crisis to divide and conquer populations and then offer their pre-conceived "solutions". Even the war crimes going down as we watch them unfold are engineered, designed, condoned and even ordered by the intelligence agencies... to damage the reputation of this great country of ours, to foment the Arab world for WWIII and drag to us through the mud internationally in order to bring us down and make us the bad guys, the Evil Empire--SO THAT--so that the "International Community", ie the UN World Government can step in as the savior and be the good guys to "save the day" and thenceforth America will become just
another province of the global neo-feudal system just as Nazi Germany became absorbed in the new European Community, and now the vastly expanding EU Soviet.

Got that?

So THIS is the true agenda. This is essentially how American might and resources are being used to spearhead the globalist agenda worldwide, but to end up by being swallowed up in it, spread thin, corrupted, destroyed and assimilated itself.

. . .

Unless...we wake up to these Hegelian machinations-- which I do not see happening anytime soon.

Too many people are too brainwashed by either the Right or the Left sides of the false paradigm, or too stupid to see, or too morally bankrupt to care. I do hope this horrible state of affairs will change for the better. I myself will keep hoping and keep fighting for the truth till the very end.


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