Hey stupid, your “political party” is our nation’s problem!

[johnwk]

It really is funny to read the comments made by political party water boys and gals…not a dimes worth of sense among the entire lot!

Funny thing is Mary and Joe Sixpack somehow believe when their guy/party wins an election things will be changed by their “leaders” in Washington, when in fact Mary and Joe Sixpack were being bribed with their own tax dollars right from the beginning to put a new gangster/con artist in Washington. They are just too stupid to know the only big winners after election time are folks in government regardless of which “party” they belong to.

Heck, just think of all the political plum jobs the democrat party leaders will now be able to fill with their campaign workers and volunteers after the republican appointees are evicted and vacate these offices ___ many of these political plum jobs having six figure salaries, extravagant health care benefits and outlandishly generous pension programs___ all of which is paid for by Mary and Joe Sixpack whether they voted for republicans or democrats. And what is most hilarious is almost all those holding these political plum job offices redistribute money taxed away from Mary and Joe Sixpack for functions not authorized by our federal Constitution!

Here is a current A-Z Index of U.S. Government Departments and Agencies with the tens of thousands of political plum job positions which Mary and Joe Sixpack will support from their paychecks, which means paying not only the extravagant salary, but the job’s health care benefits and outrageous retirement pension plan. Click on any particular listing to find the countless plum jobs created in a particular “agency”, and then tell me our folks in Washington have not created a full employment act for the political party gangs who rob the people.

In any event it sure is funny, actually sad, to read the comments of those who are now beating their chest and sound a “victory”, when in fact the real victory is the bread and circus game played upon Mary and Joe Sixpack who get screwed regardless of who they voted to represent them___ while the real winners are the Capitol Hill gangster/con artist crowd..

Bottom line, our federal government personifies a living creature, a predator: it grows, it multiplies, it protects itself, it feeds on those it can defeat, and does everything to expand and flourish, even at the expense of enslaving a nation’s entire population with a national debt which exceeds $50 Trillion. Indeed, the servant has become the master over those who have created a servant, and the new servant pays tribute to a political party via taxation which ignores our most basic law…

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State."

I guess, if the founders were around today one thing they would certainly say is: “He has erected a multitude of new offices , and sent hither swarms of officers, to harass our people, and eat out their substance” ___Declaration of Independence

Regards,

JWK
ACRS


As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of darkness.___Supreme Court Justice William Douglas

[Natia Davis]

I feel as if one of the nation's biggest problems is the political process.

[brien]

This is the problem with the two party system. It fools people into thinking something might actually change in DC. People elected the Republicans and GWB expecting smaller government and Bush spent more money than ever before in the history of this country. We went from a balanced budget to deficit spending once again.

Now come the Democrats. They may pay the deficit down but will surely spend more money on entitlements and the pork promised to those who elected them into power. Count on it. Translation: higher taxes. I can hear the mantra now: "We will make the rich pay their fair share" while raising income taxes on everyone who earns over $35,000 per year, not to mention higher property taxes, energy taxes, and every other fee, fine and tax you can think of, and even some you haven't even heard of yet.

Can anyone show me when government has not increased in size and in cost? This situation will only get worse until these two stinking parties, whom I call the Republicrats, are held responsible for global militarism and imperialism, the government Diplodocus*, and the government intrusion into the individual lives and the Liberty of Americans, that has continued since the turn of the 20th century.

Most Americans simply have no clue, and that my fellow members, is the scariest aspect of this all.:eek:

* For those who need a refresher course on dinosaurs: Diplodocus:

Diplodocus

[Osborn F Enready]

I agree fully Brien.

The two major parties play the "Quigley" role now, and each work together to further secure their party dominance over all other parties from lawmaking to gerrymandering, media manupulation to outright lies.

[Apologist]

Well, although I agree with most of the posts, I would definitely have to add something. I don't believe the problem or political heresy falls solely on the politicians. Guess what, they are just human beings. The problem I see is much broader than just republicans and democrats. It starts with family, moves to friendships, then education, then the medium of media, then involvement, and then an informed decision. We need to hold politicians accountable, yet giving them freedom to exercise power without feeling threatened; example being doctors being afraid of lawsuits would be a negative outcome of holding politicians too accountable. They would get nothing done if such accountability was held.

All of you seemed a little too depressed about government and politics. Yet, how many of you have day-to-day conversations with local elected officials? Or frequently write your state representative? Getting national news from our damned media is awful; I can't watch five minutes of news without feeling like crap. That is why I love small communities, I can actually arrange frequent meetings with my county commissioners. One I had as a high school teacher, another I used to play golf with, and his political ideology was worse than his golf game. But at least he knew exactly where I stand and how much that means to me. I've met Jeb Bush several times and Ginny Brown Waite writes me personal letters now letting me know what is being down about the inquires I have wrote to her. It's not very difficult to become involved. But sitting at home watching the news or reading the newspaper is not going to do anything but make you more irritated with politics...Bad news is more entertaining than good news!! Duh, everyone knows this. But it seems to have integrated its way with what we believe is always happening.

[Zinkovich]

There is a certain culture in politics that needs to go away, in my opinion. Amongst politicians there has bred a certain attitude of exceptionalism, causing them to lose connection with their own voter base- it's as if they do not have a direct line to their own voter base, and rather to advisors with more twisted, bent, and isolated forms of advice for those who run for the house and congress during election time.

If you ask me, I see one possible(but unlikely, as of now) solution- the internet. Politicians can enter conferences from multitudes of voters in the forms of chatrooms and message boards, getting a direct line to local voters and gaining the ability to articulate what they think in vivid detail as well as answer question for lengthy periods of time. Perhaps not in this generation, but in the next, I have no doubt that some sort of interfacing with voters will be done in this manner. It's just a communication/outreach oppurtunity too good to pass up.

Unfortunately, amongst popular media and in magazines, the internet is often overlooked as a social venue and primarily as a place of purchasing power, research and business. In terms of a broader cultural context, the internet is still seen as subordinate by anyone who is not a techie/nerd as a last vestige of communication, often not preferable to other forms such as cell phones or meeting in person. With, as the media turns it, the advent of the "myspace generation", perhaps in 20 years there will be a shift in this viewpoint, but in the meantime the internet is very much a frontier and thus will not likely be considered as politicians as a line into "mainstream" voters whose support are central to gaining political victory.

Not to mention the age of the average politician puts them out of the technological loop for quite some time. As I said before, maybe the next generation.

[gallo]

Tom Delay of the 22nd Congressional district in Texas resigned after the primary that would have put his name on the ballot. There is no provision in the election laws to replace a candidate on the ballot after the primary process. As a result, there was no Republican candidate on the ballot in an overwhelmingly Republican district (a convoluted district that was redrawn by Delay himself to favor his own future elections). However, the Republicans poured millions into promoting the write-in candidate, who also appeared as the Republican candidate in the special election, running against the same Democrat, to serve out the remaining 6 weeks of Delay's term. We were told to "vote twice for Shelly," once in the special election and as a write-in in the general election. Polls showed the Republican candidate with an overwhelming lead and the Republican Party expressed confidence in victory.

But they failed to recognize that the overwhelming stupidity of the American voter can overwhelm an overwhelming lead any day of the week. Although the Republican candidate won the special election by a wide margin, that candidate lost to the same opponent by a wider margin in the general election. It seems that Republicans were unable to correctly write in the candidates name - many, apparently because they voted the straight ticket which did not include write in candidates. So now one of the most Republican districts in the country has a Democratic Representative.

[Right of Center]

The huge issue is intelligence. I can see it in my own high school. Students and teachers treat most politics with indifference. They target in on 1 issue and ignore all else. They don't open their eyes and research the issues and research the different sides to everything. They vote what the rest of the people around them are saying. I only know a few kids in my school (and I know everybody in my school (there's only 100 of them)) that actually understand what a liberal and a conservative is. The rest of them are clueless of what the terms even mean. They confuse classical liberalism and modern liberalism. They get dizzy at the concept of what republican philosophy is. They don't understand what liberals have been doing for the last many years. They don't understand the changes that have occurred throughout the 20th century. All they understand is "Bush is bad because the Iraq war is bad". They don't understand economies, government, judicial systems, laws, different political philosophies or anything that controls this country. They can't connect different events between different political policies. They don't care and therefore they don't pay any attention. It's sad and that's the downfall of democracy.

[Jack]

It's sad and that's the downfall of democracy.

Welcome to the United Sheeple of America.

[Osborn F Enready]

The problem with our political process, is the voters AREN'T being informed by the press, or any aspect of it, adequately.

Politics is affected by money, from lobbyists, special intrests.
Election is affected by money, from lobbyists, special intrests.
Media coverage is affected by money, from lobbyists and special intrests.

We need to stop the money, from lobbyists and special intrests on ALL of those fronts.

[kubedawg]

Because there is a majority election process(51%/49%) there will always be flaws. Because 1 party was voted into office, even if it was a 75% win, there are still 25% of those people who feel differently on that particular candidate.

These numbers are exploitable. Because we have a majority vote, often times candidates hide their true intentions to possibly win an election. I totally agree with osborn on this one too. Equal amounts of money should be given to each candidate, so everything is fair.

[johnwk]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready The problem with our political process, is the voters AREN'T being informed by the press, or any aspect of it, adequately.

BINGO !


JWK