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Mr.Vicchio · May 7, 2004, 04:36 am

Michael Moore admits Disney 'ban' was a stunt

07.05.2004
By ANDREW GUMBEL in Los Angeles
Less than 24 hours after accusing the Walt Disney Company of pulling the plug on his latest documentary in a blatant attempt at political censorship, the rabble-rousing film-maker Michael Moore has admitted he knew a year ago that Disney had no intention of distributing it.

The admission, during an interview with CNN, undermined Moore's claim that Disney was trying to sabotage the US release of Fahrenheit 911 just days before its world premiere at the Cannes film festival.

Instead, it lent credence to a growing suspicion that Moore was manufacturing a controversy to help publicise the film, a full-bore attack on the Bush administration and its handling of national security since the attacks of 11 September 2001.

In an indignant letter to his supporters, Moore said he had learnt only on Monday that Disney had put the kibosh on distributing the film, which has been financed by the semi-independent Disney subsidiary Miramax.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm...ubsection=world

May 7, 2004, 04:53 am

...umm what CNN interview? Thank you new zealand herald..cough

I usually avoid the one liners, but I'd like to see a real source actually provide some info on this.

Mr.Vicchio · May 7, 2004, 04:57 am

Awww can't admit Moore's full of it?

May 7, 2004, 05:12 am

admit Moore's full of it?

This reaks of bias. This ambiguous article doesn't get into what interview, and CNN doesn't mention I thing. This is suspect in my opinion, and I'd love to see a credible source.

Also, Moore would not admit to something like that if he's truly a salesman.
I love when people think they know the whole situation (even when they only have one sketchy source).

Mr.Vicchio · May 7, 2004, 05:47 am

I love how people keep giving Moore credibility after Bowling for Columbine was ripped apart for the fabricated POS that it is.

There are multiple Sources I just used this one. And if you go to CNN.com they have a HUGE "BUSH DISNEY TO STOP MOORE MOVIE!" expose.. and oops... it was BS... which embarresses the hell out of them...

May 7, 2004, 06:35 am

Vic,

Umm, you're hallucinating. :confused:

dotComa was commenting on the one source you posted. It mentioned a CNN interview. dotComa claimed that CNN didn't have anything on it. Your reply had nothing to do with what was posted.

The title of your posted article was "Michael Moore admits Disney 'ban' was a stunt."

Nowhere in the article does Moore admit any such thing.

Nowhere in this topic has anyone given Moore 'credibility'

Mia · May 7, 2004, 06:39 am

MM is full of crap a lot of the time which is too bad - he writes about some important things. (and is hysterical).

But I don't care to watch or read him and do all the research to figure out fact from fiction. If I'm going to work that hard at reading a book, I may as well write one and make the money myself!

**Pooeypants** · May 7, 2004, 10:08 am

Original article.

white rice · May 8, 2004, 02:57 am

Michael Moore is milking it for what it's worth. He's a human being, and a demogauge. But that doesn't override concerns of corporate censorship on Disney's behalf.

castille · May 9, 2004, 08:41 am

Michael Moore is like "Jackass" - they're both about publicity, contraversy, and throwing a bomb into the crowd.

PatrickHenry · May 9, 2004, 01:57 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by castille,
Michael Moore is like "Jackass" - they're both about publicity, contraversy, and throwing a bomb into the crowd.

You're mistaken IMO. Moore is much funnier because he points out hypocrisy and ridicules logical non-sequiters. Like in "Bowling for Columbine" at the bank that gives you a rifle for opening a new account.

Gorgo · May 9, 2004, 02:02 pm

http://www.michaelmoore.com
Michael Moore has known for a year that we will not distribute this movie, so this is not news." Yes, that is what I thought, too, except Disney kept sending us all that money to make the movie. Miramax said there was no problem. I got the idea that everything was fine.

"It is not in the best interests of our company to distribute a partisan political film that may offend some of our customers." Hmmm. Disney doesn't distribute work that has partisan politics? Disney distributes and syndicates the Sean Hannity radio show every day? I get to listen to Rush Limbaugh every day on Disney-owned WABC. I also seem to remember that Disney distributed a very partisan political movie during a Congressional election year, 1998—a film called The Big One… by, um… ME!

Gorgo · May 9, 2004, 02:04 pm

I haven't studied this a lot, but I don't see a lot of support for the idea that Michael Moore is reckless with the truth. A lot of it seems to come from right-wing blogs that don't care much about the truth.

Anybody have any good sourcces on that?

dotcoma · May 9, 2004, 02:58 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by PatrickHenry,
the bank that gives you a rifle for opening a new account.

I thought that was pretty cool, actually.

castille · May 10, 2004, 09:58 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Gorgo,
I haven't studied this a lot, but I don't see a lot of support for the idea that Michael Moore is reckless with the truth. A lot of it seems to come from right-wing blogs that don't care much about the truth.

Anybody have any good sourcces on that?

I havent studied this a lot, but i dont see a lot of support for the idea Michael Moore tells the truth. A lot of it comes from left-wing blogs that dont care much about the truth.

Anybody have any good sourcces on that?

Gorgo · May 10, 2004, 10:15 am

Well, I suppose that you're right, I should have been more clear, but from what I've read, people on discussion forums are simply saying that that Michael Moore is loose with the truth. With what exactly is he loose with? I'm not saying he's not, but if this all comes from people like David Horowitz or Rush Limbaugh who make their living making things up, that's strange that people are buying it.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

LogicaLunatic · May 12, 2004, 12:10 am

Quote:

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the bank that gives you a rifle for opening a new account.

I thought that was pretty cool, actually.[/b][/quote]

I would actually prefer a Sig P-229 or anything made by Wilson Combat.

Mr.Vicchio · May 12, 2004, 12:34 am

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

Try reading that, Watch Bowling while you have that site up... you might learn what a bloated lieing sack of dog crud Mr. Moore really is.

**Pooeypants** · May 12, 2004, 06:10 am

Meh, I've read all the crud already, doesn't make a difference between the actual points he was making. He was wrong for demonising Charles Heston but he did tell me something new, the crime (gun)difference between Canada and USA even though the Canadians hold or have more guns in their homes.

Mia · May 12, 2004, 06:25 am

Just check his own sources that he lists - often they are fabricated!

May 7, 2004, 04:36 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	Michael Moore admits Disney 'ban' was a stunt 07.05.2004 By ANDREW GUMBEL in Los Angeles Less than 24 hours after accusing the Walt Disney Company of pulling the plug on his latest documentary in a blatant attempt at political censorship, the rabble-rousing film-maker Michael Moore has admitted he knew a year ago that Disney had no intention of distributing it. The admission, during an interview with CNN, undermined Moore's claim that Disney was trying to sabotage the US release of Fahrenheit 911 just days before its world premiere at the Cannes film festival. Instead, it lent credence to a growing suspicion that Moore was manufacturing a controversy to help publicise the film, a full-bore attack on the Bush administration and its handling of national security since the attacks of 11 September 2001. In an indignant letter to his supporters, Moore said he had learnt only on Monday that Disney had put the kibosh on distributing the film, which has been financed by the semi-independent Disney subsidiary Miramax. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm...ubsection=world Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

May 7, 2004, 04:57 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	Awww can't admit Moore's full of it? Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

May 7, 2004, 05:47 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	I love how people keep giving Moore credibility after Bowling for Columbine was ripped apart for the fabricated POS that it is. There are multiple Sources I just used this one. And if you go to CNN.com they have a HUGE "BUSH DISNEY TO STOP MOORE MOVIE!" expose.. and oops... it was BS... which embarresses the hell out of them... Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

May 7, 2004, 06:39 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	MM is full of crap a lot of the time which is too bad - he writes about some important things. (and is hysterical). But I don't care to watch or read him and do all the research to figure out fact from fiction. If I'm going to work that hard at reading a book, I may as well write one and make the money myself! "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

May 7, 2004, 10:08 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,541	Original article. War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

May 7, 2004, 04:53 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
dotComa Guest Posts: n/a	...umm what CNN interview? Thank you new zealand herald..cough I usually avoid the one liners, but I'd like to see a real source actually provide some info on this.

May 7, 2004, 05:12 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
dotComa Guest Posts: n/a	admit Moore's full of it? This reaks of bias. This ambiguous article doesn't get into what interview, and CNN doesn't mention I thing. This is suspect in my opinion, and I'd love to see a credible source. Also, Moore would not admit to something like that if he's truly a salesman. I love when people think they know the whole situation (even when they only have one sketchy source).

May 7, 2004, 06:35 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
StoneWT Guest Posts: n/a	Vic, Umm, you're hallucinating. :confused: dotComa was commenting on the one source you posted. It mentioned a CNN interview. dotComa claimed that CNN didn't have anything on it. Your reply had nothing to do with what was posted. The title of your posted article was "Michael Moore admits Disney 'ban' was a stunt." Nowhere in the article does Moore admit any such thing. Nowhere in this topic has anyone given Moore 'credibility'

May 8, 2004, 02:57 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
white rice Igneous Magma Posts: 372	Michael Moore is milking it for what it's worth. He's a human being, and a demogauge. But that doesn't override concerns of corporate censorship on Disney's behalf. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

May 9, 2004, 08:41 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	Michael Moore is like "Jackass" - they're both about publicity, contraversy, and throwing a bomb into the crowd. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

May 9, 2004, 02:02 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	http://www.michaelmoore.com Michael Moore has known for a year that we will not distribute this movie, so this is not news." Yes, that is what I thought, too, except Disney kept sending us all that money to make the movie. Miramax said there was no problem. I got the idea that everything was fine. "It is not in the best interests of our company to distribute a partisan political film that may offend some of our customers." Hmmm. Disney doesn't distribute work that has partisan politics? Disney distributes and syndicates the Sean Hannity radio show every day? I get to listen to Rush Limbaugh every day on Disney-owned WABC. I also seem to remember that Disney distributed a very partisan political movie during a Congressional election year, 1998—a film called The Big One… by, um… ME!

May 9, 2004, 02:04 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	I haven't studied this a lot, but I don't see a lot of support for the idea that Michael Moore is reckless with the truth. A lot of it seems to come from right-wing blogs that don't care much about the truth. Anybody have any good sourcces on that?

May 10, 2004, 10:15 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	Well, I suppose that you're right, I should have been more clear, but from what I've read, people on discussion forums are simply saying that that Michael Moore is loose with the truth. With what exactly is he loose with? I'm not saying he's not, but if this all comes from people like David Horowitz or Rush Limbaugh who make their living making things up, that's strange that people are buying it. http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

May 12, 2004, 12:34 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html Try reading that, Watch Bowling while you have that site up... you might learn what a bloated lieing sack of dog crud Mr. Moore really is. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

May 12, 2004, 06:10 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,541	Meh, I've read all the crud already, doesn't make a difference between the actual points he was making. He was wrong for demonising Charles Heston but he did tell me something new, the crime (gun)difference between Canada and USA even though the Canadians hold or have more guns in their homes. War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

May 12, 2004, 06:25 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Just check his own sources that he lists - often they are fabricated! "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali