Watch the truth about the Federal Reserve

[Osborn F Enready]

Aaron Russo's film on the current Un-Constitutionality of America.

While I don't agree with EVERY single point, he has covered most of them here in his film that stand logically, and verifiably legitimate via public records and a historical exploration of facts in our governments history of money.

He also calls to point the necessity, yes, necessity of changing it back if any person in this nation, or ANY nation values liberty or individualism in ANY form, in any country.

Watch the entire movie free, here:
America Freedom to Fascism Authorized version - Google Video

OR, purchase it at reduced rate for high-res download, or purchase the full-price DVD here:
America: Freedom to Fascism


There really is no excuse for ignorance of the facts anymore. :rolleyes:

[Autolykos]

I think it's important to point out that there are also cogent economic arguments against the Federal Reserve and central banking in general.

- Rob

[RVonse]

Wow. That was one sobering and scary film I must say. Especially the part about the chip implants. Technology is not going to be our friend.

[Milton Bradley]

I had been anxious to see this film since I heard about it some time back.


Great work on Russo's part, and I also liked the credibility of the people he interviews.


Wake up people.

[Osborn F Enready]

I can't believe more people aren't posting.

This message was so important, Russo funded a large portion of that film himself, and he also is now SO concerned about getting the message out he is offering the film in 3 different price brackets, ONE OF WHICH BEING FREE, which I linked above. One hour and forty-nine minutes.

Aaron Russo ran for President last Presidential Election as a Libertarian. Hew was beat out for party nomination by Michael Badnarik, so he graciously accepted that, and also asked all of his supporters to stay on their battle stations and support Badnarik equally in his campaign.

I supported Aaron in his bid for the Presidency. After he lost the nomination, I supported Badnarik equally, but as my second choice.

I think Aaron is a great American Patriot, and he has done the citizens of this nation a great service by asking hard questions to power, filming it, and showing us the answers for our own eyes to see.

The American people have been duped, their government stolen from the inside, and I thank Aaron for trying so hard to wake people up.


THANKS for taking the time to watch it RVonse. I can tell you with personal assurance that if you look up and verify what Russo said, and explained in his film, you will see the facts were presented as they are.

I can't reccommend this film enough.

[JohnMK]

It's one thing to be against a big government that levies highly confiscatory taxes and so on. I suspect all who have posted in this thread share that opinion, and I count myself amongst you.

It's quite another to take facts out of context so as to suit one's opinions. This is low behavior. I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of having gone down that route, in fact, I have very high regard and respect for all of you.

But this film is (probably) nothing other than sensationalist, out-of-context one-liners that do little to advance a rational debate. I say probably because I was turned off after the first 5 minutes. I find it mentally painful to be lied to, no matter if you're on the same team even.

It happens that the Wikipedia entry concurs with what is widely known about this issue:

Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some tax protesters, conspiracy investigators, and others opposed to income taxes cite what they contend is evidence that the Sixteenth Amendment was never "properly ratified." One argument is based on the contention that the legislatures of various states passed bills of ratification with different capitalization, spelling of words, or punctuation marks (e.g. semi-colons instead of commas). Another argument made by some tax protesters is that because Congress did not pass an official proclamation recognizing Ohio's year 1803 admission to statehood until 1953 (see Ohio Constitution), Ohio was not a state until 1953. Therefore, they argue, the Sixteenth Amendment was not properly ratified. These arguments have been universally rejected by the courts.

I will do my damndest to convince people to join the cause of freedom. I will not lie or distort, however. When you do that, and people find out, that destroys your credibility. To say nothing of its Kantian repugnance . . .

If I am misinformed, please inform me. But give me the complete context.

[JohnMK]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready There really is no excuse for ignorance of the facts anymore. :rolleyes:

Propaganda != facts.

[Osborn F Enready]

JohnMK said: But this film is nothing other than sensationalist, out-of-context one-liners that do little to advance a rational debate.

I say:
I disagree. These are things not viewed by the American public at large, most of whom think their government is operating in a "legal" enviroment referring to the Constitution.

I took five pages of complete, and detailed notes from this film, with many more points of intrest that were disclosed that I have already documented so I didn't need the notes on those items.

Most Americans are "ignorant" on the subject, many of them NOT for lack of effort, as Russo proves with great effort still very little is accomplished.

The point of the film is to advance to most Americans the IDEA that their government is not being honest, provably, verifiably lying to them, and encouraging them to take action at the grass roots level.

It is the job of citizens, and grass roots organizations to pull these people together into one coherant voice, and unify them into a national movement towards liberty and constitutional law in this nation once again.

I am trying to do my part everyday, and I would like to ask that others who value liberty and individual choice, to help me by doing the same.

Russo, by me, is greatly respected for his unquestionable effort at a loss, of time and money. What more can we ask people to do as individuals, other than take a small loss of time and money to further the cause of liberty for ALL men, equally? How much money have each one reading this donated, or put forth in time, effort and labor to advance that cause?

I think we all need to start asking ourselves those questions, and questioning our true values as individuals.

JohnMK said: It happens that the Wikipedia entry concurs with what is widely known about this issue:

I say:
I don't dispute that, but I think you can clearly see a slant in the wikipedia article, and the wikipedia article can't match the credibility of the list of people questioned on this issue by Russo in his film, and surrounding investigation by the We The People foundation, the Tax Honesty Movement, etc.

I don't see Wikipedia filing a petition for redress of grievance, yet these people clearly are, to which I have signed and do participate in not PAYING into the system, and depriving it of my earnings and the fruits of my labor.

Russo makes it easily digestable in two hours, for the average person who knows little about government actions, or goals, and incites them to become more educated, care more, and TAKE ACTION.

In a nation that claims to be "representative of the people", and "constitutionally limited republic", where 50% to 60% of the people don't vote, it should speak clearly on what is and is not working.

The laws, and the system have become so complex and politicized that people on average can't comprehend what is happening on the grand scale.
In times like these, I am thankful that people who care still take the time and effort of their own to attempt to enlighten those around them to what they have been missing while attempting to "make ends meet", which is after all, what this is all about....... money, and power, via information or the lack thereof.

[Osborn F Enready]

JohnMK said: Propaganda != facts.

I say:
Your point here?

[JohnMK]

Osborn, because of my respect for you*, I shall reserve further commentary until I have finished the film.

[Milton Bradley]

Even if ( and, thats a mighty big IF ) the income tax is legitimate, the issue regarding the constitutionality of the Federal Reserve is enough to demand accountability from our elected officials.

[Osborn F Enready]

I don't want your respect if it seems to incur in you a motivation to curb your free expression. I have thick skin, and it won't hurt me.

I would like to give a little list of "some" of those interviewed by Mr. Russo in the film.

John Turner: IRS Agent, non-filer. Truth-In-Taxation Hearing
Joe Bannister: Former IRS Investigator, now a case winning non-filer.
Sherry Jackson: Former IRS Agent, non-filer, member of "We the People".
Bob Schulz: We the People Foundation We The People Congress
Charlie Beall: We the People Foundation
Catherine Albrecht: Founder of "CASPIAN" spychips.com - how RFID will compromise privacy, security, freedom
Peter Gibbons: U.S. tax attourney
State Representative Idaho (R) Phil Hart Phil Hart - State Representative - Idaho House District 3
Vernice Kuglin: UnitedStatesGovernment.net - IRS vs. Kuglin
Tom Selgas: Tax Honesty Movement Who's Who in the Tax Honest Movement
Edwin Viera: Constitutional Scholar, and attourney. Amazon.com: How to Dethrone the Imperial Judiciary: Books: Edwin Vieira
Sheldon Cohen: former IRS commissioner Remarks of Sheldon Cohen
Jan Lindsey: Former FBI Investigator
Ron Paul (R) Texas Congressman Congressman Ron Paul


Just to name a few.

Russo did a great job considering the economic and personal constraints involved.

[Osborn F Enready]

Cases are being won, people are fighting back against this perverse form of taxation across the country.

Why aren't more people posting on this?

[zynner]

I didn't get a chance to watch it, but will check it out tonight if I can.

I'm bumping this thread for another reason, though.

Aaron Russo was interviewed about his film and made an amazing statement.

He said that he had become friends with one of the Rockefellers (Nick, I think -- whoever the hell he is) and Aaron was asked what he thought the women's movement was all about.

Aaron said it was about equality, rights, jobs, etc.

Rockefeller told Aaron that such thinking was nonsense. He was told that the real reason for the women's movement was to be able to tax twice as many people (homemakers are not taxed) and to get the children out of the home and into arenas where their minds could be shaped by the statists.

Now ...

There are three possiblities here:

(1) This conversation never happened and Russo is making it up.
(2) It did happen, but Rockefeller was just making it up (or mistaken).
(3) It did happen and it is real.

I think this important because if it is #1 or #2 then it is an interesting story, but if it is #3, then it's another matter. In that case, the vast, vast, vast majority of people have no clue what is really going on and what is likely to happen to them and their children in the future.

And the term "Wake up" should be on every bumpersticker in the world.

~ zynner

ps: If you can afford the $5 for Aaron's official version, then go that route because the free version is not the final cut and leaves a lot out, plus Aaron Russo spent over $1,000,000 to get this thing done and he needs to know that people support him if he is ever going to do follow up works.

[Osborn F Enready]

I have read about his relationship with Rockefeller, in a great interview. Wish I still had it. :(

Please, yes, watch the movie and pass it around to friends via e-mail if you think it has value.

[Milton Bradley]

Two of the three people Osborn, and myself have showed this movie to have went directly to the website to purchase copies. ( batting .666 thus far )


One close friend said he would be giving them out as Christmas gifts this year. :)


Indeed, my Libertarian message seems much more palpable to others when confronted with a painful truth as big as this movie. My recruiting drive is paying big dividends this year.

[kubedawg]

Osborn, I don't regularly check this section. I mostly stick the the society and rights section, and I would have seen this a lot sooner. But regardless, I am appaled at what is happening in the United States today. I'm never paying income taxes again.

And to hear GWB say this:

"The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper,"

I really cannot wait to see the movie Death of a President...

I have so much anger in me right now, I find it even hard to think or type without yelling. This is fucked up. I'm sending this to my whole family(15-20 people) and all of my friends in multiple emails and links on any forums I visit and any IM's I get and even myspace.com...

Is it time for a revolution?

[kubedawg]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Two of the three people Osborn, and myself have showed this movie to have went directly to the website to purchase copies. ( batting .666 thus far ) One close friend said he would be giving them out as Christmas gifts this year. :)

OMG that's a fantastic idea!!!

oh and here's a digg.com link for those of you who'd like to bring this story up and hopefully make it front page:

digg - America: Freedom to Fascism (Authorized version)

[Osborn F Enready]

Thanks for watching Kubedawg.

I wish I could convince all the readers of this forum to do the same.

It is only 1 hour and 49 minutes, and people need to know what is happening.

Thanks again..... there is hope as long as the message gets out.

Even I, am not quite ready for revolt yet, but quickly nearing that line as the government stays on course to police state...... 2008 will be the telling year for me, if the election in 2006 is hacked.

I WILL NEVER accept a drivers license with RFID technology. period.

We must take our nations government, and financial system back.

[bishop]

i tried, but the film was horrible and had to turn it off after 10 minutes - plus i don't particularly like subjecting myself to anyone's dogma/propaganda... i'd rather read a book, although i've already read enough about the system..

found this though..

Facts Refute Filmmaker’s Assertions on Income Tax in ‘America’ - New York Times

if congress legislated limits on what it can spend, the rants about the federal reserve would be much ado about nothing.