Just for some info Syria Iraq WMD

[Mr.Vicchio]

http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=36463

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=764

http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/...41304-syria.htm

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/.../25/324358.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...1/25/wirq25.xml

And this was just a few of the links I could find. Interestingly, there were three "There are no Iraqi WMD in Syria. 1 was Aljeezera, the other two were .org sites... Found the irony of that enough to laugh for a minute straight.

[Dieval]

Here's yet another article...
Iraqi Weapons in Syria

[Mr.Vicchio]

They were all written by the CIA at Haliburtons request to keep its interest in the white house in office.

[Dieval]

Originally posted by Mr.Vicchio, They were all written by the CIA at Haliburtons request to keep its interest in the white house in office.

Don't forget the almighty Oil..I'm sure it'll play into this some how..

ROFL

[Ross]

BS...
We had satellites looking down on Iraq for those months, desperately trying to prove WMD claims. I'd think they'd notice a few gigantic convoys with missile parts loaded on driving into Syria. I mean, how many highways are there connecting the two countries? Not hard to cover with eyes in the sky.

[Mia]

Originally posted by Ross, BS... We had satellites looking down on Iraq for those months, desperately trying to prove WMD claims. I'd think they'd notice a few gigantic convoys with missile parts loaded on driving into Syria. I mean, how many highways are there connecting the two countries? Not hard to cover with eyes in the sky.

But Ross, the Israeli's SAW them! They are POSITIVE they contained WMD!

Gee, we've got the works. Debka, the site with the alleged links to Israeli intelligence, we've got Sharon and Israel but of course it appears these articles were written prior to Israel bollicking its intell agencies for bungling and claiming more myth than reality in relation to the alleged Iraqi WMD. Loftus feature in any of those articles?

Goodness, we gots lots of supposition and claims, but no concrete anywhere. And Kay, is that the same Kay that said something about no WMD since 91?

Sigh, keep on pumping boys and girls, but really you're doing little but poor impersonations of Baghdad Bob.

[Mr.Vicchio]

You didn't read his whole repor you just read the NYT headlines didn't you?

[Mia]

I doesn't matter. Syria and Iraq weren't friends. Weren't on speaking terms, really. THE MAN WOULD NOT GIVE HIS WEAPONS TO THEM!

Would he transport them to another country to hide them if he could and if he trusted them? Of course! But who was a friend to Saddam over there?

Not Syria, not Iran. I know little about his relationship with Jordan but I highly doubt it.

In any case, these are serious charges against Syria. I move to have them dismissed until the prosecution can gather evidence, if there is any evidence to gather!

How many of you would like to see us invade Syria if they do not aid al-quida and did not hide saddam's wmd for him?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Mia you shoudl join the CIA and explain these things to them, since you are so certain.

Mr.Vicchio

You mean Loftus's? I read quite of lot of Loftus's work some time ago. Interesting guy. Plenty of people have been wrong about the whole Iraq thing however and Loftus wouldn't be the first or only. You believe whatever you wish there Toto.

[Mia]

Mr. V: so media sites biased toward us and/or Israel say it happened and sites biased to arabs say it didn't.

Is that a surprise?

The burden of proof is on us. So when I see some I'll change my mind about my opinions. Until then, why don't you admit that all you have is opinions as well?

[Dieval]

Originally posted by Mia, I doesn't matter. Syria and Iraq weren't friends. Weren't on speaking terms, really. THE MAN WOULD NOT GIVE HIS WEAPONS TO THEM! Would he transport them to another country to hide them if he could and if he trusted them? Of course! But who was a friend to Saddam over there? Not Syria, not Iran. I know little about his relationship with Jordan but I highly doubt it. In any case, these are serious charges against Syria. I move to have them dismissed until the prosecution can gather evidence, if there is any evidence to gather! How many of you would like to see us invade Syria if they do not aid al-quida and did not hide saddam's wmd for him?

You know, if Saddam payed Syria to take the weapons(money can have the affect of smoothing over rough edges, and Saddam did raid the banks of Iraq prior to the war) and hold them for him, so that 1) he might be able to reclaim them one day in the future and 2) make Bush look bad by not being able to find WMD's in Iraq....

Of course this all speculation.....except for the "credible" reports of convoys of trucks going into Syria from Iraq...

[Dieval]

Hahahahaha....I just read a story that pretty much agreed with what I just posted about Saddam paying Syria to take his WMD's(I really did read the article after my previous post)..../ROFL



The curious lack of curiosity about WMD

Originally posted by Article May 6, 2004 "Week after week after week after week," said Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., about President Bush's rationale for going to war with Iraq, "we were told lie after lie after lie after lie." Were we? Jordan recently seized 20 tons of chemicals trucked in by confessed al Qaeda members who brought the stuff in from Syria. The chemicals included VX, Sarin and 70 others. But the media seems curiously incurious about whether one could reasonably trace this stuff back to Iraq. Had the terrorists released a "toxic cloud," Jordanian officials say 80,000 would have died! So, I interviewed terrorism expert John Loftus, who once held some of the highest security clearances in the world. Loftus, a former Army officer, served as a Justice Department prosecutor. He investigated CIA cases of Nazi war criminals for the U.S. attorney general. Author of several books, Loftus once received a Pulitzer Prize nomination. John Loftus: There's a lot of reason to think (the source of the chemicals) might be Iraq. We captured Iraqi members of al Qaeda, who've been trained in Iraq, planned for the mission in Iraq, and now they're in Jordan with nerve gas. That's not the kind of thing you buy in a grocery store. You have to have obtained it from someplace. Larry Elder: They couldn't have obtained it from Syria? Loftus: Syria does have the ability to produce certain kinds of nerve gasses, but in small quantities. The large stockpiles were known to be in Iraq. The best U.S. and allied intelligence say that in the 10 weeks before the Iraq war, Saddam's Russian adviser told him to get rid of all the nerve gas. It would be useless against U.S. troops; the rubber suits were immune to it. So they shipped it across the border to Syria and Lebanon and buried it. Now, in the last few weeks, there's a controversy that Syria has been trying to get rid of this stuff. They're selling it to al Qaeda is one supposition. We know the Sudanese government demanded that the Syrian government empty its warehouse in Khartoum where they've been hiding illegal missiles along with components of weapons of mass destruction. But there's no doubt these guys confessed on Jordanian television that they received the training for this mission in Iraq. . . . And from the description it appears this is the form of nerve gas known as VX. It's very rare, and very tough to manufacture . . . one of the most destructive chemical mass-production weapons that you can use. . . . They wanted to build three clouds, a mile across, of toxic gas. A whole witch's brew of nasty chemicals that were going to go into this poison cloud, and this would have gone over shopping malls, hospitals . . . Elder: You said that the Russians told Saddam, "There is going to be an invasion. Get rid of your chemical and biological weapons." Loftus: Sure. It would only bring the United Nations down on their heads if they were shown to really have weapons of mass destruction. It's not generally known, but the CIA has found 41 different material breaches where Saddam did have a weapons of mass destruction program of various types. It was completely illegal. But no one could find the stockpiles. And the liberal press seems to be focusing on that. Elder: It seems to me that this is a huge, huge story. Loftus: It's embarrassing to the (press). They've staked their reputations that this stuff wasn't there. And now all of a sudden we have al Qaeda agents from Iraq showing up with weapons of mass destruction. Elder: David Kay said, in an interim report, that there was a possibility that WMD components were shipped to Syria. Loftus: A possibility? We had a Syrian journalist who defected to Paris in January. The guy is dying of cancer, and he said, "Look, my friends in Syrian intelligence told me exactly where the stuff is buried." He named three sites in Syria, and the Israelis have confirmed the three sites. They know where the stuff is, but the problem is that the United States can't just go around invading Arab countries. . . . We know from Israeli and defectors' intelligence that the son of the Syrian defense minister was paid 50 million bucks to bring the stuff across the border and bury it. Elder: Why would al Qaeda attack Jordan? Loftus: Jordan is an ally of the United States. It's at peace with Israel. And Jordan has a long history of trying to prosecute terrorists. . . . There are a lot of reasons. . . . They want to make an example of them. They want to terrorize as many of the Arab states as possible. This is sort of a political dream for the president. The worst nightmare is al Qaeda gets weapons of mass destruction from Iraq. And it looks like it's coming true. A Syria/Iraq/al Qaeda/WMD connection? Why, this calls for a congressional investigation.

[Mia]

My understanding was that the story that the weapons even came from Syria to Jordan was debunked.

In any case, al-Quida is a bigger enemy to Syria than to the US.

Even non-terrorist Sunni muslims want a Sunni in power, so the fundamentalist ones REALLY do.

Syria keeps these people OUT of their country for fear of being overthrown by them, they don't have tea and exchange weapons with them!

Everyone is determined that every ME nation is the same and all evil, aren't they?

This is just really sad.

One person tell me the religious affiliation of the President of Syria. (without looking it up).

Does anyone even know anything about this country and does anyone care to find out something before they make all these accusations?

[Mr.Vicchio]

You were wrong Mia, it wasn't debunked, just ignored.

[Mia]

look in "wmd's in Jordan"

[Mr.Vicchio]

read the article Deival posted :)

[Mia]

If it were true it would not be ignored - that's another thing Bush would be talking about!

[Mr.Vicchio]

He has. But again, its being ignored.