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Old May 7, 2004, 04:32 pm   #61 (permalink) (top)
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And the same for you. Club For Growth talking points over and over and over....
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Old May 7, 2004, 04:47 pm   #62 (permalink) (top)
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Finally, you're getting it.
I guess next time I'll flick the old Sarcasm flag on, when I post pure sarcarsm..


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Old May 7, 2004, 04:50 pm   #63 (permalink) (top)
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It's not a matter of qualification. It's a matter of motive...
$50 million is a big motivator..


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Old May 7, 2004, 04:50 pm   #64 (permalink) (top)
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Too bad there isn't a neo-conservative, big government trojan horse flag...
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Old May 7, 2004, 04:59 pm   #65 (permalink) (top)
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I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THAT WEBSITE. I dislike Bush because of his actions, nothing else.


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Old May 7, 2004, 05:02 pm   #66 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Dieval,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dieval,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by roxdog,@

All these reports are based on the word of one organization, The Syrian Reform Party:
Apparently you didn't read ALL the articles...

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Reports of Iraqi WMD winding up in Syria were not just coming from the Israelis. In October 2003,retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, revealed that vehicle traffic photographed by U.S. spy satellites indicated that material and documents related to Saddam's forbidden WMD programs had been shipped to Syria before the war.
When did a retired Air Force Lt. Gen become part of the Syrian Reform Party?
When did Israel become part of the Syrian Reform Party?[/b][/quote]

How could they tell WHAT was being transported from TRAFFIC SATELLITE PHOTOGRAPHS?

Hello?

What does "indicated" mean? If they had pictures that actually showed this, they wouldn't say "indicated". They'd state it in a more affirmative manner.

It's all BS preparing us to accept that Syria is the next "imminent threat" that we need to invade. No wonder they hate our guts.


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Old May 7, 2004, 05:04 pm   #67 (permalink) (top)
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Roxdog, I had thought that the American public would not be fooled again, but look, they are.

How to get more people out of the Matrix?


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Old May 7, 2004, 06:29 pm   #68 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Mia,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mia,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
How could they tell WHAT was being transported from TRAFFIC SATELLITE PHOTOGRAPHS?
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I don't deal with satellite images...maybe you should ask an expert...say the retired Lt. Gen. guy...apparently he found reason to believe they were WMD related...

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It's all BS preparing us to accept that Syria is the next "imminent threat" that we need to invade. No wonder they hate our guts.
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I'm glad you're ok with dismissing things like this just because you don't think they're real....Did it ever occur to you that our government is trying to PROTECT us from future attacks? It's not one big grand conspiracy to take over the world, rob the middle east of their precious Oil or to get Haliburton's stock up...jeeez...and just remember, it doesn't matter what we do, there will always be those people that hate our guts...


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Old May 7, 2004, 07:03 pm   #69 (permalink) (top)
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He said "indicated". Unlike you, I look for more details before assigning guilt to anyone.


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Old May 7, 2004, 07:07 pm   #70 (permalink) (top)
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Additionally, Syria was on the hit list long before the Iraq war even began. Long before these allegations of WMD's being transported there.

They don't do anything to us or represent a threat to us.

That's us looking out for Israel - Syria has not signed a peace agreement and will not without the return of the Golan Heights and a fair division of land for Palestinians.

Solution? Invade them!

But we can't say Israel is the reason, so we concoct this crap.

When you go to tell me I'm wrong, explain why Syria was on the hit list BEFORE these allegations.


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Old May 7, 2004, 07:22 pm   #71 (permalink) (top)
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When you go to tell me I'm wrong, explain why Syria was on the hit list BEFORE these allegations.
I know Syria has been a shining example of peace to the world, a beacon of hope to the down trodden, a force to rekon with in the war on terror, and they don't deserve to be on our hitlist....sorry, I've seen the errors of my way....
(should I flick the sarcasm flag, or did you pick that up?)
You say you've never been to moveon.org, but you seem to echo their idea's pretty well....are you sure you've never been there?


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Old May 7, 2004, 10:55 pm   #72 (permalink) (top)
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Positive. Never heard of it until you guys brought it up and still haven't gone. I'm not interested in propaganda, only facts.

Syria has not been involved in any wars except with Israel.

And yes they do help the downtrodden - Palestinians are given full rights and assistance there.

Are you aware that they have given offices to our FBI and CIA in their capital to work together against terror?

So all of your sarcastic remarks turn out to be the truth.

I asked what basis there is to invade this country and I didn't see an answer in your post.


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Old May 7, 2004, 11:01 pm   #73 (permalink) (top)
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Positive. Never heard of it until you guys brought it up and still haven't gone. I'm not interested in propaganda, only facts.

Syria has not been involved in any wars except with Israel.

And yes they do help the downtrodden - Palestinians are given full rights and assistance there.

Are you aware that they have given offices to our FBI and CIA in their capital to work together against terror?

So all of your sarcastic remarks turn out to be the truth.

I asked what basis there is to invade this country and I didn't see an answer in your post.
Just because we have an FBI and CIA office(which I'll try and look up), doesn't mean we know everything that's going on over there...and BTW, they are known supporterers of atleast one terrorist organization...Hammas...sorry, but they're not the great people you're making them out to be...


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Old May 7, 2004, 11:07 pm   #74 (permalink) (top)
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Hamas is against Israel, not a world terror organization.

They don't have the right to fight the occupation of Palestine?

Your point?


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Old May 7, 2004, 11:08 pm   #75 (permalink) (top)
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One more time and then I will confirm that you don't have an answer:

Why should Syria be invaded?


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Old May 8, 2004, 12:36 am   #76 (permalink) (top)
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Hamas is against Israel, not a world terror organization.

They don't have the right to fight the occupation of Palestine?

Your point?
We have labeled Hammas as a terrorist organization and the whole "occupation of Palestine" is a load of crap...

Apparently, for arguments sake, you agreed that they recieved Saddams WMD, that just bumped their threat level up X10.....maybe they should start cooperating a bit more...personally, I won't shed any tears for them if we decided to invade...


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Old May 8, 2004, 12:45 am   #77 (permalink) (top)
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We have labeled Hammas as a terrorist organization and the whole "occupation of Palestine" is a load of crap...

Apparently they recieved Saddams WMD, that just bumped their threat level up X10.....maybe they should start cooperating a bit more...personally, I won't shed any tears for them if we decided to invade...
Is that you, Rumsfeld? Aren't you in enough trouble already?


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Old May 8, 2004, 12:58 am   #78 (permalink) (top)
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Still waiting for the reason.....oh, right. You don't have one. You have to wait for Bush to manufacture it for you.


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Old May 8, 2004, 01:02 am   #79 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Dieval,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dieval,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Mia,
Hamas is against Israel, not a world terror organization. 

They don't have the right to fight the occupation of Palestine?

Your point?
We have labeled Hammas as a terrorist organization and the whole "occupation of Palestine" is a load of crap...

Apparently, for arguments sake, you agreed that they recieved Saddams WMD, that just bumped their threat level up X10.....maybe they should start cooperating a bit more...personally, I won't shed any tears for them if we decided to invade...[/b][/quote]

Not to Syria - the land was theirs before Britain double-crossed the Arabs and colonized them instead of giving independance as promised for helping them win the war.

They carved out part of Syria and named it Palestine.

If anyone wonders why they are the last holdout for peace with Israel, that is one reason.

How many countries do you want to invade for Israel's sake? Shit, why don't we just carpet bomb the entire area and give it to Israel and then I guess you all would finally be happy.


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Old May 8, 2004, 01:54 am   #80 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by PatrickHenry,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PatrickHenry,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Is that you, Rumsfeld? Aren't you in enough trouble already? [/b]

ROFL That's almost a compliment

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How many countries do you want to invade for Israel's sake?[/quote]
Not that I believe we're doing it for Israel, but they have been a much better ally than Syria has, or just about anyone else in the ME...


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