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BHD · May 4, 2004, 09:09 am

With a few friends we've been setting up an open source political platform. The Diamond Party is a new independent voters league, dedicated to promoting liberty, justice and logic and calls for an active and positive stance towards politics. We believe in streamlined government, freer markets and effective justice. Our site features a comprehensive platform, political strategy, think tanks, FAQ and more…

Anyway, we're still looking for people to read and criticize our platform and principles. The more feedback we get the better. So please, rate our platform! Thanks.

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Gorgo · May 4, 2004, 09:15 am

What is a free market?

BHD · May 4, 2004, 09:18 am

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Originally posted by Gorgo,
What is a free market?

A setting for exchanging resources where prizes and conditions are set as result of free (no coercion) interaction between buyers and sellers?

Gorgo · May 4, 2004, 09:24 am

How is that achieved? Without government?

BHD · May 4, 2004, 09:25 am

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Originally posted by Gorgo,
How is that achieved? Without government?

No. With smaller but more effective government.

Gorgo · May 4, 2004, 09:41 am

So, not free from coercion, but the minimum of coercion.

Smaller government, meaning greatly reducing the size of the "Defense" Department?

BHD · May 4, 2004, 09:46 am

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Originally posted by Gorgo,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Gorgo,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>So, not free from coercion, but the minimum of coercion.
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Anarchy is not feasible. And we'll always need a govt to enforce our individual (economical) rights.

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Smaller government, meaning greatly reducing the size of the "Defense" Department?[/quote]

Reducing it to at least a minimum level of efficiency.

Gorgo · May 4, 2004, 09:57 am

You want to eliminate tyrants. How would you eliminate tyrants?

BHD · May 4, 2004, 10:01 am

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Originally posted by Gorgo,
You want to eliminate tyrants. How would you eliminate tyrants?

By isolating them. By supporting pro-democracy movements in dictatorial countries all over the world. By taking military action if necessary (see Iraq).

Gorgo · May 4, 2004, 10:03 am

Iraq was necessary?

I don't see anything about NAFTA or the IMF. What is the position on those things?

BHD · May 4, 2004, 10:07 am

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Originally posted by Gorgo,
Iraq was necessary?

Not entirely. We should have worked harder for a solution within the UN framework. Or at least we should have looked for more support from other 'willing' countries before going in quasi-alone.

BHD · May 4, 2004, 10:08 am

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Originally posted by Gorgo,

I don't see anything about NAFTA or the IMF. What is the position on those things?

We support both NAFTA and the IMF. We believe in free markets and global economy.

Gorgo · May 4, 2004, 10:23 am

Thanks.

Gorgo · May 4, 2004, 11:18 am

So, would you say that is a major cut, a minor cut, a medium cut?

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Originally posted by BHD,

Reducing it to at least a minimum level of efficiency.

dotcoma · May 4, 2004, 11:25 am

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I don't see anything about NAFTA or the IMF. What is the position on those things?

We support both NAFTA and the IMF. We believe in free markets and global economy.[/b][/quote]

And you think that NAFTA and the IMF have anything to do with free markets? I think your party needs to reevaluate it's platform...

Gorgo · May 4, 2004, 11:51 am

Well, the platform says they're "centrist," which has come to mean right wing. Especially since the extreme criminal right wing has come to mean Conservative.

BHD · May 4, 2004, 12:11 pm

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Originally posted by Gorgo,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Gorgo,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>So, would you say that is a major cut, a minor cut, a medium cut?

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Reducing it to at least a minimum level of efficiency.

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Well it's hard to name an exact figure, especially since some of our stances on the military would actually cost money (better pay, more benefits,...), but cutting operational costs by 20% should be possible.

BHD · May 4, 2004, 12:12 pm

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I don't see anything about NAFTA or the IMF. What is the position on those things?

We support both NAFTA and the IMF. We believe in free markets and global economy.

And you think that NAFTA and the IMF have anything to do with free markets? I think your party needs to reevaluate it's platform...[/b][/quote]

You don't think NAFTA makes markets more free?

dotcoma · May 4, 2004, 12:14 pm

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I don't see anything about NAFTA or the IMF. What is the position on those things?

We support both NAFTA and the IMF. We believe in free markets and global economy.

And you think that NAFTA and the IMF have anything to do with free markets? I think your party needs to reevaluate it's platform...[/b][/quote]

You don't think NAFTA makes markets more free?[/b][/quote]
It has nothing to do with what I think...

PatrickHenry · May 4, 2004, 12:14 pm

Is this a joke?

May 4, 2004, 09:09 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
BHD Sedimentary Rock Posts: 13	With a few friends we've been setting up an open source political platform. The Diamond Party is a new independent voters league, dedicated to promoting liberty, justice and logic and calls for an active and positive stance towards politics. We believe in streamlined government, freer markets and effective justice. Our site features a comprehensive platform, political strategy, think tanks, FAQ and more… Anyway, we're still looking for people to read and criticize our platform and principles. The more feedback we get the better. So please, rate our platform! Thanks. Source: Diamond Party Don't vote for the Diamond Party!

May 4, 2004, 12:14 pm	#20 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,438	Is this a joke? "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

May 4, 2004, 09:15 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	What is a free market?

May 4, 2004, 09:24 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	How is that achieved? Without government?

May 4, 2004, 09:41 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	So, not free from coercion, but the minimum of coercion. Smaller government, meaning greatly reducing the size of the "Defense" Department?

May 4, 2004, 09:57 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	You want to eliminate tyrants. How would you eliminate tyrants?

May 4, 2004, 10:03 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	Iraq was necessary? I don't see anything about NAFTA or the IMF. What is the position on those things?

May 4, 2004, 10:23 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	Thanks.

May 4, 2004, 11:51 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	Well, the platform says they're "centrist," which has come to mean right wing. Especially since the extreme criminal right wing has come to mean Conservative.