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Old Oct 8, 2006, 05:33 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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"As Exemptions Grow, Religion Outweighs Regulation"

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At any moment, state inspectors can step uninvited into one of the three child care centers that Ethel White runs in Auburn, Ala., to make sure they meet state requirements intended to ensure that the children are safe. There must be continuing training for the staff. Her nurseries must have two sinks, one exclusively for food preparation. All cabinets must have safety locks. Medications for the children must be kept under lock and key, and refrigerated.

The Rev. Ray Fuson of the Harvest Temple Church of God in Montgomery, Ala., does not have to worry about unannounced state inspections at the day care center his church runs. Alabama exempts church day care programs from state licensing requirements, which were tightened after almost a dozen children died in licensed and unlicensed day care centers in the state in two years.

The differences do not end there. As an employer, Ms. White must comply with the civil rights laws; if employees feel mistreated, they can take the center to court. Religious organizations, including Pastor Fuson’s, are protected by the courts from almost all lawsuits filed by their ministers or other religious staff members, no matter how unfairly those employees think they have been treated.

And if you are curious about how Ms. White’s nonprofit center uses its public grants and donations, read the financial statements she is required to file each year with the Internal Revenue Service. There are no I.R.S. reports from Harvest Temple. Federal law does not require churches to file them.

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In recent years, many politicians and commentators have cited what they consider a nationwide “war on religion” that exposes religious organizations to hostility and discrimination. But such organizations — from mainline Presbyterian and Methodist churches to mosques to synagogues to Hindu temples — enjoy an abundance of exemptions from regulations and taxes. And the number is multiplying rapidly.
As Exemptions Grow, Religion Outweighs Regulation - New York Times

With respect to “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" I think these types of exemptions are, by and large, constitutional, if you take "establishment of religion" to mean a specific sect. So government can't say "Sikhs are bad, Protestants good." But government can in effect say "religion good, non-religion bad." (Or can't it? I profess openly that I am not a U.S. constitutional scholar nor legal expert.)

The types of exemptions discussed in the New York Times article are worrying because of the interference in a fairly competitively market that they distort. The cost of being a non-religious non-profit organization becomes higher than if you were a religious non-profit organization. Further, there are reasons for regulations. Now in singular cases, you and I might disagree when a regulation is warranted, but most people would agree that if a regulation is adopted that it should be done as non-discriminatorally and as generically as possible, as suits the particular concern of the regulation.

The exemptions granted to organizations based purely on their ostensible religious metaphysics are patently unfair. The practical effect of these exemptions (taxes, regulations, etc.) is that we all subsidize religion, and in America the effect is that we subsidize an establishment of religion, that being Christianity, because by and large it is Christian churches that overwhelmingly predominate. Unless I am mistaken in my reading of First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which unfortunately does not bar the above type of legislatated loopholes and lollipops if read in its narrowest sense, it will take Congressional and State legislation to mend this, and America has by and large embraced a pro-religious mindset so I don't see mitigation coming anytime soon unless by route of activist judge.

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Old Oct 8, 2006, 07:05 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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We must face it: organized religion is a business. Amendments only come to bare significance when they have been interpreted by the Supreme Court. Take Everson vs. Board of Education for example. I agree, "America has by and large embraced a pro-religious mindset," and by no means should a Church, which we have already established to be a business, be exempt from federal regulation - especially when it comes down to the safety of children.
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Old Oct 8, 2006, 07:25 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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The Google Ad I'm seeing now directly below my opening post is most poignant . . .
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Old Oct 8, 2006, 07:51 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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In recent years, many politicians and commentators have cited what they consider a nationwide “war on religion” that exposes religious organizations to hostility and discrimination. But such organizations — from mainline Presbyterian and Methodist churches to mosques to synagogues to Hindu temples — enjoy an abundance of exemptions from regulations and taxes. And the number is multiplying rapidly.
Absolutely true. If people wonder why I get so fed up with the whinning by christians in this country, that paragraph explains it quite plainly.


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Old Oct 8, 2006, 08:04 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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The First Amendment begins: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." What are these laws, regulations and ordinances but a piecemeal establishment of religion?


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Old Oct 9, 2006, 02:03 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Agreed. The problem comes in when religious organizations are doing things outside of their religion, but expecting to keep getting the same tax benefits for it as they do in the church. If you start a day care center, you should have the same regulations as any other day care center. If you start a thrift store, you should have to follow the same laws as any other thrift store. These things have nothing to do with the functioning of a church, they are businesses and need to be treated as such.

If anything, this is a good reason to look at why we give breaks to religion in the first place if they're just going to abuse it.


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Old Oct 9, 2006, 02:07 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Religion is just another excuse for war and polarization of divide between fellow citizens.

We all have a right to our own beliefs, stressing OUR OWN.

Organized religion is like organized corruption, and often differ very little if at all.


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Old Oct 9, 2006, 12:56 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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If you think folks who don't like these exempted Church daycare facilities aren't watching them and probably getting physical evidence to show how they will abuse not having inspections,,,,,,,,,,,,,(and they will), then you
(mis)underestimate the secular constituents. Movies like Jesus Camp will make certain anywhere evangelicals are interacting secretly with children, it's gonna turn out not so secret.
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