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Old Apr 29, 2004, 09:48 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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I was wandering around the internet today and came across this site.
IraqiBodyCount.net

I was just wondering what you guys think about this, and how accurate you think it is.

It also made me start wondering about more things, like the Iraqi millitary deaths, and the number of prisoners of war we have. If you got any other interesting statistics or numbers on the war post them here.

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Old Apr 29, 2004, 09:55 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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the methodology seems sound.

it'd be hard to say either way since the major media groups ignore such things.


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Old Apr 29, 2004, 10:11 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Seems factual enough, they aren't just making up these numbers.

These are Iraqi civilians killed in combat because they provoked battle.

This isn't a measure of innocent dead bystanders. Just dead militant, civilians.


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Old Apr 29, 2004, 10:13 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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they are simply pulling the numbers from media and entering them into a database. If you assume that the media is correct in their articles then this should work.

Last time i checked their database however they were not up to date, they had not entered all the deaths from April, which were signifigant and substaintial.

There are of course many more deaths that go unreported, so this is not accurate in a sense that it accounts for all deaths, rather accurate that it tracks reported deaths of civilians.
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 12:08 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Of course, what it does show is just how the US government views civilian casualties, it doesn't want to know. Now that's compassion.
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 12:24 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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the US does not report non-military casualties, because they say they don't have to. for that reason they are secretive pussies.
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 12:59 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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hell.. they even censor photos of unmarked u.s. coffins. nothing tastes better than a warm bowl of propaganda.


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Old Apr 30, 2004, 03:32 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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IraqiBodyCoutn seriously underestimates the number of dead civilians. It only mentions reported deaths, whereas many deaths are unreported. Semi-reliable information about the death toll includes a research done in mid-August placing the figure of dead innocent civilians at 37,000 at the time, and another research from October that placed the total death count between 21,000 and 55,000. Extrapolating directly from the 37,000 figure, we get that about 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died so far; deducting the 15,000 figure that I heard once unreliably touted as the number of dead civilians just from the bombings, we get a figure of 85 thousand dead.


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Old May 1, 2004, 05:45 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Old May 2, 2004, 06:46 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Old May 3, 2004, 03:46 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah I doubt this is a full or even accurate count of civilian deaths. All we're getting is what's reported and what's reported on civilian deaths is most usually scant. Especially when you consider all those "embedded" reporters we still have over there.


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