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Old Oct 5, 2006, 04:36 pm   #81 (permalink) (top)
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So lets circulate some disinformation to promote the idea the
US is on a mission to acquire global hegemonic imperialist
control over the planet starting with the Middle East in
Lebanon and Syria with Israeli support, already in Afghanistan and
Iraq with Iran next up.
So what are these citizens to actually do?
So what has Bush done besides opening his mouth to speak disinformation?
Bush is capable of invading a sizeable country against all reason and advice.

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Old Oct 8, 2006, 03:17 pm   #82 (permalink) (top)
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The oil market is a big and robust place. I am sceptical whether it can be sufficiently manipulated to create an "October surprise." I can understand the speculation, of course.
I'm a Californian. Does the name Enron ring a bell? I'm not the least bit sceptical that energy companies can manipulate the market.

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Old Oct 8, 2006, 03:32 pm   #83 (permalink) (top)
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I'm a Californian. Does the name Enron ring a bell? I'm not the least bit sceptical that energy companies can manipulate the market.

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Enron could not have rigged California utilities prices had not the state so royally screwed up the "deregulation" of the energy markets. It was like the Reagan "deregulation" of savings and loans that led to massive fraud and taxpayer bailouts.

Energy companies can rig markets but they usually require help. And, gas prices do typically fall after Labor Day. Must be a conspiracy.


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Old Oct 8, 2006, 03:39 pm   #84 (permalink) (top)
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Enron could not have rigged California utilities prices had not the state so royally screwed up the "deregulation" of the energy markets. It was like the Reagan "deregulation" of savings and loans that led to massive fraud and taxpayer bailouts.

Energy companies can rig markets but they usually require help. And, gas prices do typically fall after Labor Day. Must be a conspiracy.

Well, we know the Savings, and Loan Scandle was a conspiracy, so it's only logical to conclude as much as much about this example with the obvious similarities you yourself point out.
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Old Oct 8, 2006, 03:54 pm   #85 (permalink) (top)
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Well, we know the Savings, and Loan Scandle was a conspiracy, so it's only logical to conclude as much as much about this example with the obvious similarities you yourself point out.
Conspiracy? Who needs to conspire when the government unlocks the back doors to the bank and yells, "Come and get it!" No need for a conspiracy.

The largest since factor driving gas prices this season has been the mild hurricane season. That was probably arranged by Karl Rove and the oil companies. Yah that's it.


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Old Oct 8, 2006, 08:18 pm   #86 (permalink) (top)
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Conspiracy? Who needs to conspire when the government unlocks the back doors to the bank and yells, "Come and get it!" No need for a conspiracy.

My contention included the government in the conspiracy, so thanks for the vindication.


I love it when the other side makes my point for me.


My guess is I won't have to provide a link for that.
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Old Oct 8, 2006, 08:38 pm   #87 (permalink) (top)
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My contention included the government in the conspiracy, so thanks for the vindication.


I love it when the other side makes my point for me.


My guess is I won't have to provide a link for that.
If stupid policy constitutes a conspiracy, then perhaps so. I know there are some fool wild ass theories out there, but what else is new?


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