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Mia · Apr 30, 2004, 06:24 am

Ok, I don't think Dave is going to answer. It may be because what he said is false.

We don't need to make up enemies that don't exist.

**Pooeypants** · Apr 30, 2004, 10:47 am

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Wow, this place seems like Impenitent vs all. Which is unsurprising but I admire his persistance in the face of complete and utter defeat. Carry on.

how neutral of you "moderator"

not even close to defeat[/b][/quote]
I would comment on your complete lack of proper support and logic for your case but nearly everyone whom has posted in this thread has already done so. Can't you be chivalrous about this and just accept the defeat whilst you have a shred of dignity left? Is it worth dragging this thread into an inevitable flame match?

dotcoma · Apr 30, 2004, 12:27 pm

Damn! Laying the smack down...

Impenitent · Apr 30, 2004, 12:30 pm

I gave many sources for support of my position... your denials of the value of the sources does not undercut the argument... all it does is show that some wish to bury their heads in the sand and deny the truth... bush was right, the wmds were and are in iraq and jordan

**Pooeypants** · Apr 30, 2004, 12:41 pm

Mr Impenitent, here's what I can see from one of the sources;

"Jordan to air terror confessions
From correspondents in Amman
April 27, 2004

STATE television will air confessions from al-Qaeda suspects who allegedly planned chemical and poison gas attacks against the US Embassy and other targets in Jordan, officials said overnight."

"AMMAN, Jordan (CNN) -- Jordanian authorities said Monday they have broken up an alleged al Qaeda plot that would have unleashed a deadly cloud of chemicals in the heart of Jordan's capital, Amman."

When I did a word search for the word "Iraq" or "Saddam Hussein" in the articles, I find nothing that says the materials were from Iraq or Saddam and neither do I see the source indicating that Iraq was going to use them.
Both the articles I quoted from just talk about how Al Qaeda, which it seems for reason you like to link for the Hussein regime (without any actual evidence), was planning to use some Chemicals that are found in Jordan.

Still I can't wait for you to start protesting about Israel having the world's fifth (?) largest nuclear arsenal and want them to be disarmed.

Now on the serious note, deliver a reliable source which tells me "WMD found in Iraq" or something along those lines (you know like after the invasion and thus would justify the war?). No maybe's or could be's, you've dragged this on for too long and it's not productive. You have one post to do it and then this thread will be closed.

jcgadfly · Apr 30, 2004, 12:47 pm

They were in Iraq many years ago. America sold them to Saddam.

They were gone in the first run of inspections or else they'd have used them. The fact that they weren't used and haven't been found despite America forces crawling all over the country proves that point.

If there's a WMD stockpile in Jordan, it was crafted with pride in the USA as well.

What's the old joke... How does GWB know there are WMDs in Iraq? He found his dad's receipts.

Mia · Apr 30, 2004, 09:39 pm

good one!

Apr 30, 2004, 06:24 am	#101 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Ok, I don't think Dave is going to answer. It may be because what he said is false. We don't need to make up enemies that don't exist. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Apr 30, 2004, 12:30 pm	#104 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	I gave many sources for support of my position... your denials of the value of the sources does not undercut the argument... all it does is show that some wish to bury their heads in the sand and deny the truth... bush was right, the wmds were and are in iraq and jordan "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Apr 30, 2004, 12:41 pm	#105 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,609	Mr Impenitent, here's what I can see from one of the sources; "Jordan to air terror confessions From correspondents in Amman April 27, 2004 STATE television will air confessions from al-Qaeda suspects who allegedly planned chemical and poison gas attacks against the US Embassy and other targets in Jordan, officials said overnight." "AMMAN, Jordan (CNN) -- Jordanian authorities said Monday they have broken up an alleged al Qaeda plot that would have unleashed a deadly cloud of chemicals in the heart of Jordan's capital, Amman." When I did a word search for the word "Iraq" or "Saddam Hussein" in the articles, I find nothing that says the materials were from Iraq or Saddam and neither do I see the source indicating that Iraq was going to use them. Both the articles I quoted from just talk about how Al Qaeda, which it seems for reason you like to link for the Hussein regime (without any actual evidence), was planning to use some Chemicals that are found in Jordan. Still I can't wait for you to start protesting about Israel having the world's fifth (?) largest nuclear arsenal and want them to be disarmed. Now on the serious note, deliver a reliable source which tells me "WMD found in Iraq" or something along those lines (you know like after the invasion and thus would justify the war?). No maybe's or could be's, you've dragged this on for too long and it's not productive. You have one post to do it and then this thread will be closed. War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Apr 30, 2004, 09:39 pm	#107 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	good one! "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Apr 30, 2004, 12:27 pm	#103 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	Damn! Laying the smack down...

Apr 30, 2004, 12:47 pm	#106 (permalink) (top)
jcgadfly Molten Ash Location: Bloomington IN Posts: 103	They were in Iraq many years ago. America sold them to Saddam. They were gone in the first run of inspections or else they'd have used them. The fact that they weren't used and haven't been found despite America forces crawling all over the country proves that point. If there's a WMD stockpile in Jordan, it was crafted with pride in the USA as well. What's the old joke... How does GWB know there are WMDs in Iraq? He found his dad's receipts.