wmds in jordan...

[jcgadfly]

So now you claim to know that my interpretation based on reading the book were incorrect. Did Bush teach you how to look in people's souls? :rolleyes: you don't have a soul, they do not exist... but your denials of the facts reveal your position...

I didn't say they did. Bush said he looked into Putin's soul. I just figured he taught you how to look into mine.

As far as facts go, there weren't any in Goldberg's book that brought forth liberal bias. Same goes for Coulter's books, O'Reilly's books, Limbaugh's books...

Facts never stopped the conservatives from making good spin
.

Seriously, now. How can you look at the Bush butt-kissing festival that is the mainstream media and claim that it still has a liberal bias?   did you see the same question asked of bush at his press conference? apologize and admit mistakes... at least 6 times... shills for kerry... I saw Bush say he couldn't remember any mistakes and that "Historians may say I should've done this better or that better." It's about time the press starts repeating questions when they go unanswered. Unfortunately, they all settled down and became Bush's good puppies again. Where was the apology?  :rolleyes: good puppies?!? your ignorance shines... bush doesn't owe anyone an apology... First you say he apologized, then you say he doesn't owe anyone an apology. Which is it? :rolleyes: I never said he apologized... the press asked him for an apology at least 6 times...

He was not asked to apologize once. He was asked "Do you think you've made any mistakes in your handling of things post 9/11?". Bush said he did not recall any. Then again, he doesn't read newspapers so maybe he truly can't.

And yes, "good puppies". They appeared very docile after Bush nonanswered the questions about why he and Uncle Dick got to testify together against the 9/11 commission's wishes. Maybe you can answer it since you're such a strong apologist. Why do Bush and Cheney get to speak without taking an oath to tell the truth? ********** why did clinton and gore speak to the commission in private with no oath?!? Why are they not allowing transcripts of their statements? *********** where are the clinton and gore transcripts?!? your partisanship is pathetic

Nothing has been said about Clinton and Gore not taking the oath (Okay Newsmax has something but they're hardly objective)? If they were asked to take oaths Clinton and Gore would have done so. Bush and Cheney demanded that they not be required to take the oath or they would not speak.

You also have no truth of no Clinton/Gore transcripts. Again, Bush/Cheney made that a condition of their "cooperation."

If the press were actually liberal they would've been screaming about the Squatter in the White House from the Constitutional illegalities at the beginning to the outright corruption and human rights violations of today. *********** they have been squaking... but bush did nothing illegal Provide proof. They've only started covering the war because more people are dying than they can ignore. Bush did nothing illegal only if you ignore the Constitution. Oh, you're a Republican. You have no problems doing that. ******** no, you claim bush did something illegal, let's see the indictments...or articles of impeachment... The Constitution states that the President and Vice President cannot be from the same state. Bush and Cheney are from Texas. ************* cheney is from Nebraska and Wyoming... http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/

Cheney bought a house in Texas under the Homestead Act. To purchase a house under that act, one has to declare that house as their primary residence. Cheney transferred his registration from Texas to Wyoming when the Constitutional conflict was shown to them.

They had the cronies in the Supreme Court violate Florida law by stopping a statewide count until it was too late. **********5 different recounts... bush won them all... gore had the florida supreme court change the election counting rules... bush won fair and square, get over it...

No statewide recount was completed. The Consortium reported that if all the votes were counted, Gore won. If all the people who were kept off the voting rolls because they were black were allowed to vote, Gore won.

He has struck up multiple wars on false pretenses while protecting the actual perpetrators.

There will be no articles of impeachment because the Republicans control the House. There will be no indictments because too many people owe Bush too many things. Just because a criminal has no record doesn't mean he's not a criminal. It just means he hasn't been caught. :rolleyes: please... I have heard better conspiracy theories... your hatred for bush is palpable

My hatred for injustice is palapble indeed. I have no hatred for Bush. Your love for Bush and all things republican blinds you to anything other than the government/party line. Have fun on your way to your shearing, sheep.

I'm old enough to remember when a journalist's job was to confort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable. Now they do it exactly backwards. ********* and I'm old enough to remember when a journalist's job was to ask the 4Ws and report the facts of the matter... journalists are not social workers, your bias is revealed... First off, It's 5Ws and an H. Journalist are allowed to cover "Why" and "How". It's called investigative reporting. Second, when a "journalist" faithfully reports only "official sources" and doesn't do any fact-checking or investigating, he's not giving the facts or practicing journalism. Journalists aren't social workers. They're not supposed to be propagandists either. Their bosses, however, have made them become whores. Some made the shift easier than others. America's loss.

I'm glad we agree here.

But, hey, keep your fantasies. I don't want you to leave your sheltered life. *********** the fantasy is yours Your posts seem to indicate that you don't read newspapers or look at any other forms of media beyond the headlines and you say that I'm living the fantasy. Whatever ********** likewise

Keep waving that flag and watching all the things that made America a great nation disappear.

You got your tax cut and that's all that's important, right?

:rolleyes: no, it is more important that the party of the impeached liar is finished...[quote]

I understand.

You think one party rule is better. So did the Germans when Hitler first took over.

Maybe you'll see more clearly when the creeping fascism starts to affect you.
Nah. You'll just wrap yourself more tightly in the flag.

P.S. Learn how to quote for god's sake.

[dotcoma]

Originally posted by Mia, Imp doesn't do proof. Just sarcastic rants against others' posts.

Bernard Goldberg isn't proof?

[dotcoma]

Originally posted by Impenitent,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Impenitent,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-roxdog, Party of the impeached liar...do you mean Nixon? Bernard Goldberg. I would buy Mike Weiner's book before I'd read anything by that hack...

your ignorance shines... nixon wasn't impeached... clinton was[/b][/quote]

Yeah, the nazi tagged out like a p#ssy. Clinton took it like a man and BEAT IT!
(I can't believe i'm defending Clinton)

[Young]

This does Prove It. This proves that Syria can import weapons into Jordan. Surely somewhere in this world Hitmen still exist, don't you think Saddam could've hired people to take out his own "Deck of Cards" & isn't it perceivable that he'd choose non muslims who could slip into the states.


Young

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by roxdog,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (roxdog,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Impenitent, your ignorance shines... nixon wasn't impeached... clinton was

Yeah, the nazi tagged out like a p#ssy. Clinton took it like a man and BEAT IT!
(I can't believe i'm defending Clinton)[/b][/quote]
Interesting viewpoint, "Might makes right"Impenitent. Nixon bagged it and quit before the impeachment was handed down. You realize that impeachment is the equivalent of an indictment or a charge, meaning that the individual is still presumed innocent?

However resigning at the threat of impeachment is tantamount to a confession of guilt, wouldn't you say?

So, Clinton was found not guilty of charges. Nixon used his juice to emplace a VP and later, president, Ford, who obstructed justice to shield his mentor. However he(Nixon) remained dishonored.

So far, this republic has impeached two presidents, both were acquitted and both retained their presidencies and their honor.

So now, which party is dishonorable?

Note that I do not defend Clinton's presidency. He is an agent of the New World Order of globalization and tyranny, which I oppose...

[dotcoma]

Careful Pat, if you QUOTE these people too many times you'll get labeled a "Conspiracy Theorist".

[jcgadfly]

Too true, roxdog.

[Impenitent]

Quote by: jcgadfly, I just figured he taught you how to look into mine. ****** as I said, sould do not exist As far as facts go, there weren't any in Goldberg's book that brought forth liberal bias. Same goes for Coulter's books, O'Reilly's books, Limbaugh's books... Facts never stopped the conservatives from making good spin ******** no, the facts are what you are denying He was not asked to apologize once. He was asked "Do you think you've made any mistakes in your handling of things post 9/11?". Bush said he did not recall any. Then again, he doesn't read newspapers so maybe he truly can't. :rolleyes: watch the damn conference again, yes he was asked to apologize Why do Bush and Cheney get to speak without taking an oath to tell the truth? :rolleyes: read the constitution ********** why did clinton and gore speak to the commission in private with no oath?!? Why are they not allowing transcripts of their statements?   *********** where are the clinton and gore transcripts?!? your partisanship is pathetic

Nothing has been said about Clinton and Gore not taking the oath (Okay Newsmax has something but they're hardly objective)?

because they are not part of the liberal media? your prejudice shines again

If they were asked to take oaths Clinton and Gore would have done so.

:rolleyes: that is a lie

Bush and Cheney demanded that they not be required to take the oath or they would not speak.

You also have no truth of no Clinton/Gore transcripts.

***** where are they then?

************* cheney is from Nebraska and Wyoming... http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/[/quote]

Cheney bought a house in Texas under the Homestead Act. To purchase a house under that act, one has to declare that house as their primary residence. Cheney transferred his registration from Texas to Wyoming when the Constitutional conflict was shown to them.

************** no conflict

Gore won. *************** he did?

My hatred for injustice is palapble indeed. I have no hatred for Bush. Your love for Bush and all things republican blinds you to anything other than the government/party line. Have fun on your way to your shearing, sheep.

and I'll dance on the grave of the party of the impeached liar in november

Keep waving that flag and watching all the things that made America a great nation disappear.

********* great things? like what? lbj's war on poverty? I'd love to watch all social spending disappear ...


You got your tax cut and that's all that's important, right?

no, it is more important that the party of the impeached liar is finished...

I understand. You think one party rule is better. So did the Germans when Hitler first took over. :rolleyes: no, just the republicans are better than the party of the impeached liar or the socialists or the communists... the libertarians have no chance of winning Maybe you'll see more clearly when the creeping fascism starts to affect you. Nah. You'll just wrap yourself more tightly in the flag. :rolleyes: right... P.S. Learn how to quote for god's sake. god is dead

[Impenitent]

Originally posted by PatrickHenry, So far, this republic has impeached two presidents, both were acquitted and both retained their presidencies and their honor. Note that I do not defend Clinton's presidency. He is an agent of the New World Order of globalization and tyranny, which I oppose...

:rolleyes: yet you think clinton was honorable?!?

you are blind

[dotcoma]

So far, we know that Imp has faith in NOTHING except the Republican Party who are just as much communist as the Democrats. And who is blind again?

[dotcoma]

[/quote]Why do Bush and Cheney get to speak without taking an oath to tell the truth?[/quote]

They are under oath. The executive is ALWAYS under oath. They are just meeting behind closed doors. We should be used to that by now so I don't see it as such a big deal.

[Mia]

Originally posted by Young, This does Prove It. This proves that Syria can import weapons into Jordan. Surely somewhere in this world Hitmen still exist, don't you think Saddam could've hired people to take out his own "Deck of Cards" & isn't it perceivable that he'd choose non muslims who could slip into the states. Young

This was Al-Quida. Why are you trying to implicate Syria?

[Pooeypants]

Wow, this place seems like Impenitent vs all. Which is unsurprising but I admire his persistance in the face of complete and utter defeat. Carry on.

Al-Quida has operatives in Syria. Syria has been a haven for terrorist groups for decades, and not just groups that operate in Israel.

[Mia]

Oh, really? Is that because of the fundamentalist government in place there?

This from the person who thought they signed a peace agreement with Israel.

[Impenitent]

Originally posted by Pooeypants, Wow, this place seems like Impenitent vs all. Which is unsurprising but I admire his persistance in the face of complete and utter defeat. Carry on.

how neutral of you "moderator"

not even close to defeat

Originally posted by Impenitent, not even close to defeat

For once you are right. You were defeated long ago, you just don't recognise it. You've justified terrorism as quite an acceptable manner of conducting war, or business, I'm not sure quite which. You wish to claim "Bush was right" whichever way something goes. And you seem to be happy to throw away the rulebook, the very following of which is what seperates the good guys and the bad guys. And by my logic, that makes you a bad guy. Murder is murder, evil is evil and idiots are indeed, idiots.

You're quite a case.

[Impenitent]

Originally posted by PeterWolf,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PeterWolf,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Impenitent, not even close to defeat

For once you are right. You were defeated long ago, you just don't recognise it. You've justified terrorism as quite an acceptable manner of conducting war, or business, I'm not sure quite which. You wish to claim "Bush was right" whichever way something goes. And you seem to be happy to throw away the rulebook, the very following of which is what seperates the good guys and the bad guys. And by my logic, that makes you a bad guy. Murder is murder, evil is evil and idiots are indeed, idiots.

You're quite a case.[/b][/quote]

get a clue...

ANYTHING can be justified...

bush was right about iraq the weapons are there and in jordan...

it's a good thing the logicians and philosophers of the world don't go by "your" logic...

Impenitent

Sigh, you keep trying to play both ends against the middle. At a guess, I'd say the only one foolish enough, or gullible enough, to fall for your line(s) is yourself. Planet Impenitent, population 1.

I mean, here you attempt to use philosophy, aristotelian logic and so on (ad nauseam) to justify your arguments and views and even more interestingly, Bush's statements and beliefs.

Ironic isn't it, that Bush, the straight shooter, the plain speaker, he of black and white and no nuance, and yourself, us and them, need to delve into philosophy to attempt to salvage your long sunk ship of foolishness?

And feel free yet again to prove those WMD Bush claimed were in Iraq are now in Jordan. Hell, I'm sure I could find you a list, Bush made mention of many weapons and so forth. Put up or shut up eh.

And just as fate would have, from Krugman today in the NYT:

We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually on a battlefield." That's from George Orwell's 1946 essay "In Front of Your Nose."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/30/opinion/30KRUG.html

[Mia]

Originally posted by dave654, Al-Quida has operatives in Syria. Syria has been a haven for terrorist groups for decades, and not just groups that operate in Israel.

I'm still waiting on your answer, Dave.