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Old Jul 24, 2006, 05:53 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Don't make laugh out of you self you know that your source is biased..

Ok I presented opposite research do you have something to say about its methodology or the results?
Don't waste my time. The sources you linked to did not address the under reporting of non-Isreali deaths by US media. They were the typical "Israel can do no wrong bullshit" that the Israel lobby cranks out endlessly.

And how is my source biased? Because it doesn't repeat the Israeli lobby's dogma. That is obviously your criteria for bias.


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Old Jul 25, 2006, 05:23 am   #22 (permalink) (top)
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Tell me why Israel did not allowed UN or any other international organization to conduct an inquiry in Jenin ?
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 02:08 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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To my knowledge no one has questioned either the methodology or the results of the studies I cited..
Fist off all the research you brought came from clearly partisan site. Its not scientific research .It didn't publish in any peer reviewed publication. So how can trust that the numbers provided especially from newspapers and other sources are right?
And here comes the second argument the sources that this "research" are use like B'tselem and not neutral organizations but pro-Palestinian .So it really creates close loop with my first argument.
. You source didn't make any difference between civilians and terrorists s/militants/soldiers. So your research is really flowed because it didn't take in to consideration what are the newspaper reporting civilian death or terrorist.
So I think this report is shows bias of the leftist media in US that just show civilian death of Palestinians but didn't write about Israeli victories against terrorism.
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 02:17 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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Yes "only" 22 Palestinian civilians were killed and most of the camp was destroyed. And we all know non-Israelis don't count anyway.
Yes you only forgot to mention that there was 30 terrorists dead and 22 IDF soldiers.
Its very small numbers of civilians death in urban warfare.
Also the other thing that you ommited why the warfare started.
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Even by the standards of Palestinian refugee camps, Jenin is gruesomely special. Since the start of the Aqsa intifadeh in September 2000, the camp's activists, drawn from the Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, Islamic Jihad and Hamas, have orchestrated at least 28 suicide attacks on Israeli targets. An internal document of Arafat's Fatah organization, written in September last year and captured by the Israelis during a recent sweep, characterized the camp's people as "ready for self-sacrifice with all their means ... It is not strange that Jenin has been termed the capital of suicide attackers."
http://www.time.com/time/2002/jenin/story.html

My point still stand the media is misreporting what happening now in Lebanon like it misreported what happened in jenin.
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 11:48 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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Everybody is forgetting the "Southern Front" in the Israeli aggression, Gaza. Maybe that's the point...the Zionists wish to do as much damage to those they hate (everyone except Jews) as possible before they are stopped...

http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D8J3DOGG7.html

Straight off of Hezbollah's tougue Big Kahuna. They started the fight, just like Hamas started that fight.

How is Israel the aggressor when they are trying to push the road map to peace which ends with an independent Palestinian state; however, it starts with Palestinian aggression holting. Israel took the first step by exiting Gaza. How did they get repaid for this action. They Palestinians used Gaza as a lauching pad for missile attacks.
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Old Jul 26, 2006, 12:50 am   #26 (permalink) (top)
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god i wish you'd learn how to use the quote feature correctly...

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My point still stand the media is misreporting what happening now in Lebanon like it misreported what happened in jenin.
you must not be watching much cnn... in particular, check out whenever wolf blitzer's on.. any correspondent who says something (that would could be implied as being critical) about israel is instantly shut down by blitzer.. he isn't the only one either.. lou dobbs and the rest of the crew does the same thing. whenever a correspondent talks about all the civilians suffering in this war, they're all shut up nice and fast. and if you click over to foxnews, you're guaranteed to find a station that's possibly more supportive of this war than your fellow israelis.

hezbollah's ability to attack doesn't seem diminished in any meaningful way, despite israel's destruction of lebanon's infrastructure..


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