Hezbollah in America

[Mia]

Hezbollah makes statements against America as well as Israel, and there is talk of cells here.

Does your opinion of Israel's reaction to Hezbollah change picturing bombs and missiles falling in your city?

[ise]

Quote by: Mia Hezbollah makes statements against America as well as Israel, and there is talk of cells here. Does your opinion of Israel's reaction to Hezbollah change picturing bombs and missiles falling in your city?

God, Mia, somehow I expected more from you.

So, after all the fine talk, you are after all, another member of the Bush scare them shitless brigade.

You have probably more reason to fear bombs from your own american red neck gangs. Certainly, Arabs have far more reason to fear USA and its client state's bombs and missiles than the other way round.

Your question is formed as if you are not a true american?

You give NO source and sound very emotional. Now if you were on the receiving end of the following then you would have reason to wonder.

[Mia]

You're reading an awful lot into one question.

And being on the receiving end of such violence is my point. Disliking many of Israel's actions does not mean I am a supporter of Hezbollah or Hamas.

I'm not a true American now? How did you come up with that?

[ise]

Quote by: Mia Hezbollah makes statements against America as well as Israel, and there is talk of cells here. Does your opinion of Israel's reaction to Hezbollah change picturing bombs and missiles falling in your city?

You're reading an awful lot into one question. And being on the receiving end of such violence is my point. Disliking many of Israel's actions does not mean I am a supporter of Hezbollah or Hamas. I'm not a true American now? How did you come up with that?

A true American should have allegiance ONLY to America. The loyalties of quite a few Americans are divided. Some even serve in that foreign army and avoid serving in the US forces. Divided loyalties?

They have stolen your TOP SECRETES, killed US sailors, blacken your previously reasonably good name so that Americans are now the second most disliked nation on earth. For what???

The best parasites always fool the host into believing they are acting in the host's best interest.

Do you have a problem that "is talk of cells here. Does your opinion of Hezbollah's reaction to Israel's change picturing bombs and missiles falling in your city?" Takes on a different meaning. If your allegiances are true, the question should be posed both ways equally.

[Apeman81]

Quote by: ise God, Mia, somehow I expected more from you. So, after all the fine talk, you are after all, another member of the Bush scare them shitless brigade. You have probably more reason to fear bombs from your own american red neck gangs. Certainly, Arabs have far more reason to fear USA and its client state's bombs and missiles than the other way round. Your question is formed as if you are not a true american? You give NO source and sound very emotional. Now if you were on the receiving end of the following then you would have reason to wonder. [IMG]IMAGE REMOVED, VIOLATES RULES[/IMG]

Gee! Where are your photos of the Muslim children killed by a Hezbollah rocket in Israel? Perhaps such would not support your position and are thereby ignored.

The deaths are the responsibility of Hezbollah, who attack from among civilians across international borders to invite retaliation in the hopes that the civilians they hide among will die in order to provide good propaganda photos so rubes like you can put them up on websites in order to make Israel look bad.

If Hezbollah packs it bags and leaves Lebanon (they are there in violation of UN resolution 1559), and stop attacking Israel, the fighting stops cold. Hezbollah is the aggressor.

[GodBlessAmerica]

Multi-page article covering this I think.

Quote by: Mia Hezbollah makes statements against America as well as Israel, and there is talk of cells here. Does your opinion of Israel's reaction to Hezbollah change picturing bombs and missiles falling in your city?

There was an old article that I think suggests we already have 350,000 Hezbollah in United States illegally.

[Mia]

They have threatened to 'make the groud underneath us explode'.

Israel's actions in Lebanon are dissimilar to 9/11 and our response to go tear up Afganistan.

[ise]

Mia They have threatened to 'make the groud underneath us explode'.

Who is the 'us' here. My guess is Israel, but I understood that you claimed to be American. Is nationality interchangable.

Israel's actions in Lebanon are dissimilar to 9/11 and our response to go tear up Afganistan.

I'm not clear what is meant here.

Every neighborhood has one, a loudmouth bully who shouldn't be provoked into anger. He's insulted? He'll pull out a knife. Spat in the face? He'll draw a gun. Hit? He'll pull out a machine gun. Not that the bully's not right - someone did harm him. But the reaction, what a reaction! It's not that he's not feared, but nobody really appreciates him. The real appreciation is for the strong who don't immediately use their strength. Regrettably, the Israel Defense Forces once again looks like the neighborhood bully. A soldier was abducted in Gaza? All of Gaza will pay. Eight soldiers are killed and two abducted to Lebanon? All of Lebanon will pay. One and only one language is spoken by Israel, the language of force. <snip> If the goal is to remove Hezbollah from the border, did we try hard enough over the last two years through diplomatic channels? <snip> In Gaza, a soldier is abducted from the army of a state that frequently abducts civilians from their homes and locks them up for years with or without a trial - but only we're allowed to do that. And only we're allowed to bomb civilian population centers. <snip> Two more soldiers were abducted and it was clearly proven that the deterrent power was not restored, while IDF failures repeated themselves. How does one erase those searing failures? On the backs of innocent populations. <snip> [CENTER]The concept that we have totally forgotten is proportionality. [/CENTER] <snip> That deepens suspicions that we need a war every few years, with terrifying repetition, even if afterward we end up back in exactly the same position. <snip> This defense minister, who says what he means: "Nasrallah is going to get it so bad that he will never forget the name Amir Peretz," he bragged, like a typical bully.

The 'we' referred to here is the Israeli 'we'.

[CENTER]Operation Peace for the IDF [/CENTER]

[ise]

Quote by: Apeman81 Gee! Where are your photos of the Muslim children killed by a Hezbollah rocket in Israel? Perhaps such would not support your position and are thereby ignored.

Just for you, ape, you sick b______
http://www.abouyounes.com/presentation.asp?enter=true

THE scale of Lebanon's agony was marked in black numbers daubed on a hospital wall in the southern city of Tyre Friday counting from one up to 74, each one representing a civilian killed by Israel's assault. The numbers were painted by nurses at the Tyre General Hospital as they tried to make sense of the hellish confusion inside a refrigerated meat lorry pressed into service as a makeshift mortuary. For the first 10 days of Israeli attacks, the dead of Tyre and its district had been stockpiled here as air strikes made it too dangerous for them to be given a normal burial. But with more bodies arriving, hospital authorities decided to make space by emptying the lorry. Among the victims inside the lorry were women and children from the 23 who died when Israel bombed a refugee convoy at the border village of Marwaheen. Their relatives gathered outside the hospital as word spread of the mass burial. Shortly after midday two hospital workers clambered up into the back of the truck. Opening the doors revealed a gruesome scene. Bodies and parts of bodies were wrapped in plastic sheeting on which names had been scrawled. Pieces of wood placed between the bodies allowed layers of cadavers to be stocked on top of each other.

NAZI PUPIL

APEMAN

[GHook93]

Quote by: ise God, Mia, somehow I expected more from you. So, after all the fine talk, you are after all, another member of the Bush scare them shitless brigade. You have probably more reason to fear bombs from your own american red neck gangs. Certainly, Arabs have far more reason to fear USA and its client state's bombs and missiles than the other way round. Your question is formed as if you are not a true american? You give NO source and sound very emotional. Now if you were on the receiving end of the following then you would have reason to wonder.

True the red-necks are a threat, which is apparent from the OK City bombing and there are other domestic threats; however, none are close to the threat from Al Qaeda.

1) 9/11
2) The First attack on the WTO
3) Before that the foiled attack on LAX (Los Angeles Airport) on the millennium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_mi...m_attack_plots
4) The Shoe Bomber Richard Reid - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...ines_Flight_63
5) The Al Qaeda conspirators in FL (who where targeting my home town of Chicago, the largest Irish populated American city I might add)
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/22/miami.raids/

Ignoring the threat of Islamic terrorism is what lead to 9/11.


Ignoring the threat of Islamic

[grandpa]

Quote by: GHook93 True the red-necks are a threat, which is apparent from the OK City bombing and there are other domestic threats; however, none are close to the threat from Al Qaeda. 1) 9/11 2) The First attack on the WTO 3) Before that the foiled attack on LAX (Los Angeles Airport) on the millennium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_mi...m_attack_plots 4) The Shoe Bomber Richard Reid - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...ines_Flight_63 5) The Al Qaeda conspirators in FL (who where targeting my home town of Chicago, the largest Irish populated American city I might add) http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/22/miami.raids/ Ignoring the threat of Islamic terrorism is what lead to 9/11.

Notice how we didn't bomb thousands of red necks over Oklahoma City?
Also, notice how we were bombing these Middle Eastern countries before Al-Qaeda was ever committing any of these attacks.

The only solution to the problem is:

a. Increasing genuine, practical security here at home ( Al-Qaeda's limits are clear)
b. Withdrawing from the Middle East. I find it funny how someone like Ann Coulter can write an article titled "Clinton's Policies Invited 9/11," yet to suggest any other involvement inspired terrorism against us is heresy.

Best regards,
Grandpa h.

[ise]

Quote by: grandpa Notice how we didn't bomb thousands of red necks over Oklahoma City? Also, notice how we were bombing these Middle Eastern countries before Al-Qaeda was ever committing any of these attacks. The only solution to the problem is: a. Increasing genuine, practical security here at home ( Al-Qaeda's limits are clear) b. Withdrawing from the Middle East. I find it funny how someone like Ann Coulter can write an article titled "Clinton's Policies Invited 9/11," yet to suggest any other involvement inspired terrorism against us is heresy.

c. Genuine neutrality. There is no reason why you must hate the Arabs and love the Jews. These relationships are not normal. Why should a great power sacrifice its security with a large number of humans for an insignificant race.

All the events that have sullied the US name have their origins in Israeli policies. It is not just the test bed of US weapons, it tests future US practices.

a) Torturing and degrading prisoners. Notion that Arabs fear dogs.
b) Internment without trail.
c) Execution of terror suspects without attempting capture and ...

[Mia]

Ise, many of your posts have read like spam. Your severe leanings have been clear from the beginning.

an insignificant race.

I don't hate either one, most on this site do not, you do. Let's not see more of the pot calling the kettle black.

[GHook93]

The biggest traitors in US history were the Irish! lol The Saint Patrick Battalion deserted to the Mexican/American War.

You aren't American, yet your an expert on our country. I take offense to that. In WW II a very effective unit was an American Japanese unit. My buddy was born in Iraq and immigrated to America when he was 7 years old and he is now serving proudly in Iraq. He believe more in that war than the Republicans and he defends Bush more than is healthy. Most Americans that have been here for a generation or 2 are fully loyal to America, including Muslims. We are a land of immigrants, so everyone (exception to the Native Americans) have roots in other countries; therefore, they have strong ties to those countries. But most still side with America.

I think you might have a little of foot in mouth disease

Quote by: ise A true American should have allegiance ONLY to America. The loyalties of quite a few Americans are divided. Some even serve in that foreign army and avoid serving in the US forces. Divided loyalties? They have stolen your TOP SECRETES, killed US sailors, blacken your previously reasonably good name so that Americans are now the second most disliked nation on earth. For what??? The best parasites always fool the host into believing they are acting in the host's best interest. Do you have a problem that "is talk of cells here. Does your opinion of Hezbollah's reaction to Israel's change picturing bombs and missiles falling in your city?" Takes on a different meaning. If your allegiances are true, the question should be posed both ways equally.

[GHook93]

Quote by: grandpa Notice how we didn't bomb thousands of red necks over Oklahoma City? Also, notice how we were bombing these Middle Eastern countries before Al-Qaeda was ever committing any of these attacks. The only solution to the problem is: a. Increasing genuine, practical security here at home ( Al-Qaeda's limits are clear) b. Withdrawing from the Middle East. I find it funny how someone like Ann Coulter can write an article titled "Clinton's Policies Invited 9/11," yet to suggest any other involvement inspired terrorism against us is heresy. Best regards, Grandpa h.

Not necessarily true. The government is constantly taking down White Supremacy groups. Why do you think the white prison population is so high with white supremacist. Just like we could fight Vietnam like we fought WW II, you can't fight White Supremacist like we fight Islamic terrorist. Iraq was the best decision, but can you truely say invading Afganistan wasn't the only decision. The worst attack on America, since Parol Harbor was coordinated in that country. The master-minds were and still might be harbored there.

Besides that the Taliban might have been the most repressive government in the world at the time. Even without 9/11 they deserved to be taken down.

[GHook93]

Quote by: ise c. Genuine neutrality. There is no reason why you must hate the Arabs and love the Jews. These relationships are not normal. Why should a great power sacrifice its security with a large number of humans for an insignificant race. All the events that have sullied the US name have their origins in Israeli policies. It is not just the test bed of US weapons, it tests future US practices. a) Torturing and degrading prisoners. Notion that Arabs fear dogs. b) Internment without trail. c) Execution of terror suspects without attempting capture and ...

a) Yes torturing prisoners was a new concept. America would never have discovered this concept is Israel hadn't taught it to them. lol. Do you believe this? It is not like cutting off someones head in public, right?
b) They are prisoners of war. Since when are POW's given a trial.
c) Didn't you just point out that we are putting terrorist in jail without a trial. Make up your mind. Are we killing them or taking them prisoners.

[GHook93]

NAZI PUPIL
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Now it makes sense why you are so anti-Semitic! Here is a history class, the Nazi didn't like (and still don't) like Catholics. By your full support of Islamic terrorist I would put my money on you being a Catholic IRA sympathizer. I have known many of them. We have a lot of them in Chicago.

[grandpa]

Quote by: GHook93 Not necessarily true. The government is constantly taking down White Supremacy groups.

Arresting members of a white supremacist group with, say, a terrorist bent on overthrowing the United States government, is different then taking out thousands upon thousands of people--the innocent dying along with the guilty (like we've done in Afghanistan and Iraq).

Grandpa h.

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Mia Ise, many of your posts have read like spam. Your severe leanings have been clear from the beginning. me (as per you) an insignificant race.

Very selective and dishonest of you. Typical?

me Why should a great power sacrifice its security with a large number of humans for an insignificant race.

is the actual sentence. A true blue American with no divided loyalties, would understand my words. Why are you so annoyed.

me (in full and in context.) c. Genuine neutrality. There is no reason why you must hate the Arabs and love the Jews. These relationships are not normal. Why should a great power sacrifice its security with a large number of humans for an insignificant race. All the events that have sullied the US name have their origins in Israeli policies. It is not just the test bed of US weapons, it tests future US practices. a) Torturing and degrading prisoners. Notion that Arabs fear dogs. b) Internment without trail. c) Execution of terror suspects without attempting capture and ..

Mia I don't hate either one, most on this site do not, you do. Let's not see more of the pot calling the kettle black.

shrike If you being against existence of Jewish state you are. There is no way around. If you against the existence of Italia you against Italians. me 25th, 11:19 pm (before your rant) Bull. The Kurds want a state. They probably deserve a state. If I was against a Kurdish state, does it follow that I'm against Kurds. Similarly with the Basque in Spain. In Ireland we have only 26 of 32 counties. Are you anti Irish if you are for the status quo. I'm NOT against the existence of a Jewish state. I do not think that in the middle of Arab states and at the expense of the Palestinians is ever going to bring peace. A large enough island where you had no neighbours - you fight with everyone - would be ideal.

What is Israel's role in the end times?

Conflict in Israel has been a reality whenever Israel has existed as a nation. Whether it was the Egyptians, Amalekites, Midianites, Moabites, Ammonites, Amorites, Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, or Romans – the nation of Israel has always been surrounded by and persecuted by its neighbors

However, I believe it was my Lebannon, beware of Greeks bearing gifts. 25th July, 12:17 pm that put your nose so badly out of joint.

12:09 am Mia I was being sarcastic. Sorry - I should have made that clear. I am just so disgusted with many recent things.....

[GHook93]

Quote by: grandpa Arresting members of a white supremacist group with, say, a terrorist bent on overthrowing the United States government, is different then taking out thousands upon thousands of people--the innocent dying along with the guilty (like we've done in Afghanistan and Iraq). Grandpa h.

Grandpa, your right it is very different. But we are fighting white supremacist and they are a threat to America. It is two different wars. However, when the all knowing Ise says that Islamic terrorist are not a threat to America, especially when he isn't an American, I take offense to that. Basically letting down our guard is what led to 9/11.

White Supremacists are a threat, but not nearly as much as Al Qaeda.

Ther Great "Ise" the mighty Ignorant: You have probably more reason to fear bombs from your own american red neck gangs. Certainly, Arabs have far more reason to fear USA and its client state's bombs and missiles than the other way round.hite Sui