Baghdad Melting Down

[Apeman81]

Quote by: dreamer A great leader should be able to sort this lot out, Saddam sorted this wild country out . Wonder if there is a l world leader powerful and able enough to get this country under control like Saddam could. I thought bush was this leader of super powers."FROM" what i have seen bush is a joke and he making his government look like a joke.

Sure! Just gas the people you don't like. Don't forget a dedicated, free wheeling secret police that finds itself far above the laws it enforces. Mix in disapperaneces of political enemies, a few mass graves, a torture/rape room or two and your ready to "sort this lot out"

[dreamer]

Quote by: Apeman81 Sure! Just gas the people you don't like. Don't forget a dedicated, free wheeling secret police that finds itself far above the laws it enforces. Mix in disapperaneces of political enemies, a few mass graves, a torture/rape room or two and your ready to "sort this lot out"

LINK. http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Stalin's%20Russia.htm

Living standards: these generally rose in the 1930’s despite the obvious problems with food production and shortages elsewhere. Some people did very well out of the system especially party officials and skilled factory workers. Health care was greatly expanded. In the past, the poorer people of Russia could not have expected qualified medical help in times of illness. Now that facility was available though demand for it was extremely high. The number of doctors rose greatly but there is evidence that they were so scared of doing wrong, that they had to go by the rule book and make appointments for operations which people did not require!!

link. http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/inte...m?id=930222006

. SADDAM Hussein believes the United States might reinstall him as president of Iraq, his lawyer revealed yesterday. Khalil al-Dulaimi said the former dictator, who is being tried for crimes against humanity, thinks he may be considered a "last resort" by senior US officials. Deteriorating relations with Iran have influenced Saddam's reasoning, the lawyer said. "The Iranian influence is a threat to American interests. The only person standing in the face of Iran is Saddam." Mr Dulaimi also claimed: "Only Saddam can stop resistance against US troops."

These two leaders, lead there countrys, just like bush is leading the usa, were does all this lead use who knows, only they know .

[ise]

Eldon Howell Ha ha ha, yeah...some day I'll share some "preacher" stories about wireless mics that didn't get turned off. Heh heh..

Kate Stone And once again Bush, the simpleton, thinks it is sufficient to get Assad on the phone and tell him to make Hezbolla quit the crap. You can fit this man's world view on the head of a pin.

By Kaaren Boullosa So our great leader Bush, at the G-8 conference, having learned nothing from being caught twice before on open mikes, leaned over at the conference and said to someone, ". . .the thing to do is to get Assad on the phone and tell him to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit . . ." and it was picked up on a nearby open mike. Regardless of whether or not one agrees, the fact that after two previous open mike embarrassments, he did it AGAIN!

Why does she think george would learn from past mistakes? There is NO evidence to believe that he might ever learn.
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[Scribbler1]

Quote by: Sonart . LOL!! I've actually got the bumpersticker... "Don't Blame Me! I Didn't vote for Him" (although I haven't put it on my car... too in love with my PT Cruiser to clutter it up) .

Or you don't want the car getting keyed should Rush Limbaugh walk by.

[GodBlessAmerica]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel If this guy aint drunk, Michael Jackson is normal....

If you had pictures taken of you in public all day, I'm sure we can find the bad ones among the millions that could make it look like you masturbate in public, try to grope women, look drunk, look perhaps happy during a funeral and other junk.

IMO, you should work as hard at saying the good things about America as you seem to be working at slandering a good President.

[Osborn F Enready]

Godbless Myself said: If you had pictures taken of you in public all day, I'm sure we can find the bad ones among the millions that could make it look like you masturbate in public, try to grope women, look drunk, look perhaps happy during a funeral and other junk.

I say:
Yea, mine would all have pictures of me smoking joints, which aren't PC, or uttering cuss words, that aren't PC.

What a criminal....... guess I should have maimed or murdered millions, then it would be excusable, I just would say I didn't inhale.

Oh yea, I guess I also masturbate occasionally, like every other male mammal. Sue me;

[Sonart]

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IMO, you should work as hard at saying the good things about America as you seem to be working at slandering a good President.

Slandering the President does say a good thing about America. It says the country still has a shred of sanity.

--"Conservatives are not supposed to be cuddly, or even particularly nice. They are, however, supposed to be competent. And to know that scarcity—of money, virtue, wisdom, competence, everything—forces choices. Furthermore, they are supposed to have an unsentimental commitment to meritocracy and excellence. The fact that none of those responsible for the postwar planning, or lack thereof, in Iraq have been sacked suggests—no, shouts—that in Washington today there is no serious penalty for serious failure. Hence the multiplication of failures."--

That would be 'conservative' George Will, slandering the President as incompetent.

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[Captain Chaos]

So...

GodBlessAmerica seems to be the only pro-Bush guy here.

So, GBA, how do you feel about Bush's management of Iraq? Are there things you feel should have been done better?


I am not picking on you - it is just that I hate to see only one-sided comments.

[RickSp]

Iraqi Death Toll Rises Above 100 Per Day, U.N. Says

An average of more than 100 civilians per day were killed in Iraq last month, the United Nations reported Tuesday, registering what appears to be the highest official monthly tally of violent deaths since the fall of Baghdad.

Military Leaders Foresee Iraq Exit in 2016

U.S. war commanders think some level of American forces will be needed in Iraq until 2016 and those forces will receive continued support from the vast majority of Iraqis.

The civil war is growing and US continues to sink into a quagmire.

[ise]

So, in the end it was not WMD, Oil, "with us or agin us", Downing St memo, etc etc.

No, it was to bring democracy to Iraq. The same democracy that they exported to all those Latin American countries. How do we know it was democracy. Well, there are all those 'disappeared' wherever the US exported its democracy. The Iraqis have loads of 'disappeared' and dead. They are getting good at it after all the expert training.

What did they ever do to deserve it. There are all those places where there are only democracies in name. There are 50 states between the Atlantic and the Pacific badly in need of democratic reform. They have a DeLay in getting modernised. They are waiting for their FFs to enlighten them with 300 year updates. In the meantime... Iraq will get democracy.

[grandpa]

Quote by: ise So, in the end it was not WMD, Oil, "with us or agin us", Downing St memo, etc etc. No, it was to bring democracy to Iraq.

Billions for defense, but not one cent on a solid defense for the "defense."
It's important to remember America wanted NO democracy in Iraq. It wanted to hand-pick the candidates. Thousand sof Iraqis protested this with a guy named Sistani and demanded one-person-one-vote elections.

Grandpa h.

[ise]

Quote by: grandpa Billions for defense, but not one cent on a solid defense for the "defense." It's important to remember America wanted NO democracy in Iraq. It wanted to hand-pick the candidates. Thousand sof Iraqis protested this with a guy named Sistani and demanded one-person-one-vote elections. Grandpa h.

Yes. I'm reading "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" or rather listening to it on a MP3 player. All clearly set out. All about wealth. Yet, you cannot bring it with you.

Is the Middle-East problem no more than the UK been bust after WW1 and 'selling' the land to the higest bidder. What it has cost ever since!

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: ise ... Is the Middle-East problem no more than the UK been bust after WW1 and 'selling' the land to the higest bidder. What it has cost ever since!

UK struck a deal with the devil in the MIDST of the Great War.
1916...Zionists offered to get the losing Brits some help from the US if they could have Palestine be a destination for Jews. It wasn't even British property at the time!! The Balfour Declaration 1917, offered the Jews a homeland there and also promised the Arabs that there would be no prejudice against their rights. But that proved impossible to enforce. The European Jewish emigrants to Palestine had no regard for their Arab neighbors.


But the Zionists did sucker the US into a war that had no bearing on America. That's another story however.

[grandpa]

Quote by: PatrickHenry UK struck a deal with the devil in the MIDST of the Great War. 1916...

Ah, the history of war..how it keeps giving.

Grandpa h.

[PatrickHenry]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=2225819

BAGHDAD, Iraq Jul 23, 2006 (AP)— Bombs exploded Sunday in Baghdad and the northern oil center of Kirkuk, killing more than 60 people and dramatically escalating tension as the prime minister left for Washington for talks on reversing the country's slide toward civil war. The blasts occurred as Iraqi forces and the U.S.-led coalition mounted a major crackdown on the country's most feared Shiite militia, the Mahdi Army, blamed by Sunnis for many of the sectarian kidnappings and killings that threaten to tear the country apart.

The world's attention has shifted to Lebanon as the blood flows freely in Iraq. :eek: