WW III Escalation and Future Steps:

[GHook93]

Let's face Noradamus predicted that WW III would start, "With the fall of the twin sisters in the New City." Could that mean anything less than the twin towers in New York? That was the starting point, we are seeing the escalation now.

Here are the next steps to the all out WW III that hits every sector of the world besides Anartica.

1) Syria and Iran declare war on Israel and attack. US sees an opportunity to confront Iran militarily and backs Israel. There is international out-cry. Soon Jordon, Eygpt, Somilia, and the rest of the Arab dominated countries in the the Middles East, Africa and Asia join the Iran in its struggle as Iran and Syria are beat like a read-headed step-children. Soon the rest of he West (Britian, Germany, France, Canada, Australlia, Spain etc.) are brought into the war as they are victims of Islamic terrorism.
2) India is hit with yet another terrorist attack. This time in the heart of their rapidly growing economic district. This time 1,000s die. India invades Pakistan. Both declare all out way. Pakistan joins the Arab alliance and India joins the West.
3) North Korea, not focused on by the West, do more missile tests. Japan now directly threats NK. NK responses by increasing the missile tests. Japan responses by bombing the missile test area. NK declares war on Japan, but Japan attacks first with South Korea as a partner.
4) China still bitter about WW II and sides with North Korea. China also uses this as an excuse to invade Taiwan, Loas, Tailand, Vietnam etc. to grow its empire, which they have wanted to do for years. This comes over an outcry and direct threat from the West including America. The West tells Japan we are behind you militarily. China and West are now at war.
5) Mean-while Iraq is neglected and falls into complete civil war. The puppet government is comely destroyed. The Kurds, Shities and Sunnis all fight a war of genocide against each other. Also in Afganistan, which is neglected also, the Taliban takes over. And joins the Arab alliance and declares war on the West and India.
6) As the West fights China and the Arabs. Turkey see an opportunity to regain the Ottoman Empire and starts with invading Iraq. Which goes unchecked until they invade Saudia Arabia. But remain uncheck, since they are attacking Arab states. With no help from the West, Saudia Arbia has no choice, but to join the Arab Alliance.
7) Mean-while Russia not in active fighting have long desired to reestablish the old Soviet Union and believe they can achieve this goal since the West is preoccupied with China and the Arab Alliance. They stage mock chechian terrorist attacks. They stage this as an excuse to invade all counties that used to be under old Soviet Union. They declaring these all these slovic countries are assisting Chechian terrorist. The West demands them to stop. Russia refuses and she agrees to a treaty with China and the Arab alliance and declares war on the West.
8) Meanwhile, Africa is now receiving no economic, humanitarian or military aid from the West or UN and falls victim to disease, famine and the worst civil wars and ethnic cleasing the continent has ever seen.
9) In Central and South America, Venezuela, Cuba and Colombian militants form an alliance. Step 1) over throw Colombia government and establish the militants there (achieved in 2 weeks). Step 2 invade Panama and control the Panama Canal (1 week). Stage 3: March up Central America taking over all countries along the way, (Achieved in 4 weeks). America recognizes these threats, but spread out so thin with China, Russia and the Arab Alliance and the take over goes unchecked until it reaches Mexico. Mexico cries for help. America has no choice but to start a new front against Colombia, Venezuela and Cuba. America allies with Mexico, Canada, Brazil, Argentia etc. to fight this battle. But with all have weak militaries America takes to brunt of the fighting.

WW III has now engulf the whole world. Even if a country is not fighting itself. Military bases are established there and soldiers are crossing over their countries.

Allies: United States, Britian, Canada, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, Greece, Brazil, Mexico and the other South American Countries, India, Turkey, Israel, Japan, Australla, South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan, Phillipines, other South Asian countries attack by China and the Slovic Countries against the Russia Empire.

Axis: China, Russia, North Korea, Venezuela, Colombia, Cuba, Haiti, Arab Alliance (Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan, Syria, Lebannon, Yemen, Eygpt, Jordon, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Moroco, Oman, Saudi Arbia, Libya, Sudan, Algeria, Ethopia, Indonesia, other Arab dominated states)

Any thoughts?

[Trotsky]

Quote by: GHook93 Let's face Noradamus predicted that WW III would start, "With the fall of the twin sisters in the New City." Could that mean anything less than the twin towers in New York? That was the starting point, we are seeing the escalation now. Here are the next steps to the all out WW III that hits every sector of the world besides Anartica. 1) Syria and Iran declare war on Israel and attack. US sees an opportunity to confront Iran militarily and backs Israel. There is international out-cry. Soon Jordon, Eygpt, Somilia, and the rest of the Arab dominated countries in the the Middles East, Africa and Asia join the Iran in its struggle as Iran and Syria are beat like a read-headed step-children. Soon the rest of he West (Britian, Germany, France, Canada, Australlia, Spain etc.) are brought into the war as they are victims of Islamic terrorism. 2) India is hit with yet another terrorist attack. This time in the heart of their rapidly growing economic district. This time 1,000s die. India invades Pakistan. Both declare all out way. Pakistan joins the Arab alliance and India joins the West. 3) North Korea, not focused on by the West, do more missile tests. Japan now directly threats NK. NK responses by increasing the missile tests. Japan responses by bombing the missile test area. NK declares war on Japan, but Japan attacks first with South Korea as a partner. 4) China still bitter about WW II and sides with North Korea. China also uses this as an excuse to invade Taiwan, Loas, Tailand, Vietnam etc. to grow its empire, which they have wanted to do for years. This comes over an outcry and direct threat from the West including America. The West tells Japan we are behind you militarily. China and West are now at war. 5) Mean-while Iraq is neglected and falls into complete civil war. The puppet government is comely destroyed. The Kurds, Shities and Sunnis all fight a war of genocide against each other. Also in Afganistan, which is neglected also, the Taliban takes over. And joins the Arab alliance and declares war on the West and India. 6) As the West fights China and the Arabs. Turkey see an opportunity to regain the Ottoman Empire and starts with invading Iraq. Which goes unchecked until they invade Saudia Arabia. But remain uncheck, since they are attacking Arab states. With no help from the West, Saudia Arbia has no choice, but to join the Arab Alliance. 7) Mean-while Russia not in active fighting have long desired to reestablish the old Soviet Union and believe they can achieve this goal since the West is preoccupied with China and the Arab Alliance. They stage mock chechian terrorist attacks. They stage this as an excuse to invade all counties that used to be under old Soviet Union. They declaring these all these slovic countries are assisting Chechian terrorist. The West demands them to stop. Russia refuses and she agrees to a treaty with China and the Arab alliance and declares war on the West. 8) Meanwhile, Africa is now receiving no economic, humanitarian or military aid from the West or UN and falls victim to disease, famine and the worst civil wars and ethnic cleasing the continent has ever seen. 9) In Central and South America, Venezuela, Cuba and Colombian militants form an alliance. Step 1) over throw Colombia government and establish the militants there (achieved in 2 weeks). Step 2 invade Panama and control the Panama Canal (1 week). Stage 3: March up Central America taking over all countries along the way, (Achieved in 4 weeks). America recognizes these threats, but spread out so thin with China, Russia and the Arab Alliance and the take over goes unchecked until it reaches Mexico. Mexico cries for help. America has no choice but to start a new front against Colombia, Venezuela and Cuba. America allies with Mexico, Canada, Brazil, Argentia etc. to fight this battle. But with all have weak militaries America takes to brunt of the fighting. WW III has now engulf the whole world. Even if a country is not fighting itself. Military bases are established there and soldiers are crossing over their countries. Allies: United States, Britian, Canada, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, Greece, Brazil, Mexico and the other South American Countries, India, Turkey, Israel, Japan, Australla, South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan, Phillipines, other South Asian countries attack by China and the Slovic Countries against the Russia Empire. Axis: China, Russia, North Korea, Venezuela, Colombia, Cuba, Haiti, Arab Alliance (Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan, Syria, Lebannon, Yemen, Eygpt, Jordon, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Moroco, Oman, Saudi Arbia, Libya, Sudan, Algeria, Ethopia, Indonesia, other Arab dominated states) Any thoughts?

Ireland won't be a part of the allies. Can guarantee that for nowt. and the mere mention of foriegn military bases in Ireland will cause uproar at home, never mind their presence.

[Scribbler1]

I don't agree that world war three is here...yet. But it often looks like we are waiting for that first domino to fall over.

However, I don't base my feelings on ANYTHING Nostradamus supposedly predicted. First, if he was such a seer then why couldn't he have SAID New York or twin BUILDINGS, etc.? That could have just as easily meant two twin sisters tripped over the curb on a street in New Haven.

I'll put a little stock in his vaporous fortune telling when someone can use his writings to predict something BEFORE it happens. After all, that IS what a "prediction" is, isn't it?

[GHook93]

Quote by: Trotsky Ireland won't be a part of the allies. Can guarantee that for nowt. and the mere mention of foriegn military bases in Ireland will cause uproar at home, never mind their presence.

Now the Allies are in trouble they lost the drunks. Yes Ireland didn't side with America on Iraq. You hit the nail on the head smart guy.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Scribbler1 I don't agree that world war three is here...yet. But it often looks like we are waiting for that first domino to fall over. However, I don't base my feelings on ANYTHING Nostradamus supposedly predicted. First, if he was such a seer then why couldn't he have SAID New York or twin BUILDINGS, etc.? That could have just as easily meant two twin sisters tripped over the curb on a street in New Haven. I'll put a little stock in his vaporous fortune telling when someone can use his writings to predict something BEFORE it happens. After all, that IS what a "prediction" is, isn't it?

The Nostradamus quote was an intro. It was a hypo domino effect I came up with off the top of my head. Probably others have different theories. I was just presenting a hypo.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: GHook93 The Nostradamus quote was an intro. It was a hypo domino effect I came up with off the top of my head. Probably others have different theories. I was just presenting a hypo.

I understand. Notice I wasn't attacking your theory. I just don't buy Nostradamus any more than I put my faith in weathermen on TV.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Scribbler1 I understand. Notice I wasn't attacking your theory. I just don't buy Nostradamus any more than I put my faith in weathermen on TV.

http://www.nostradamusonline.com/sample_chapter.php

It is tough to believe Nostradamus, because then you believe in dynasty and against free will. However, so of his interpretation seem erriely predictive of what is going on now.

[Trotsky]

Quote by: GHook93 Now the Allies are in trouble they lost the drunks. Yes Ireland didn't side with America on Iraq. You hit the nail on the head smart guy.

Hmmmmm, right, who is Irish here and probably has a better understanding of what goes on in his own country??? Ireland has not sided with the US over Iraq, the fact that US military personel go through Shannon Airport is neither here nor there, they mostly travel on commercial flights, are unarmed and not in combat uniform so under the rules of Neutrality laid out by the Geneva and Hague conventions they are as entitled to be there as the next yank in their big white shorts and loud, hideous shirt.
During Gulf War I military planes and equipment went through Shannon Airport as GW 1 had a UN mandate, again not in breach of Neutality. Our membership of the EU rapid reaction force, is again dependant on any mission having a UN mandate. The use of Shannon and Knock as fuel stop-overs for extraordianry rendition flighs will bring the government down at the next election, something which even Bertie Ahern is against, the US ambassador has been summoned before the Taoiseach's office several times in the last few months regarding this issue.
Also I think when the proposal of military action against Iraq first came before the security council, Ireland was a member and our ambassador voted against any military action. By the time it came around again, we were no longer on the Security council.

And by the way numbnuts, I object to your racist remark regarding the sobriety or lack of of Irish people, that is a a disgusting racial stereotype.

[GHook93]

Here are some trends:

Lebanon:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...ast/index.html

Arab Alliance:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...gue/index.html

Syria
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe...ush/index.html

North Korea and Missiles:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html

India and Pakistan:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html

Russia and US:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe....g8/index.html

African Violence
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa...ths/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa...eut/index.html

Iran:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html

[GHook93]

OK it was harsh to sterotype Ireland. I apologize for that. I have family in Ireland (although I am not Irish) and have been there a few times and love the country.

But I thought it funny that out of the whole post, you focused on one small point.

[Trotsky]

Quote by: GHook93 OK it was harsh to sterotype Ireland. I apologize for that. I have family in Ireland (although I am not Irish) and have been there a few times and love the country. But I thought it funny that out of the whole post, you focused on one small point.

The only bit I can find a flaw with.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Trotsky The only bit I can find a flaw with.

Yet that is your only comment

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: GHook93 http://www.nostradamusonline.com/sample_chapter.php It is tough to believe Nostradamus, because then you believe in dynasty and against free will. However, so of his interpretation seem erriely predictive of what is going on now.

I don't want to sidetrack this thread so I'll just make this one point about Nostradamus. To the best of my knowledge every so-called prediction of his is recognized as such in hindsight and therefore useless as a predictive device.
Granted, some of his stuff could be interpreted as a vague description of an event or person AFTER the event or person becomes known, not before. Wouldn't it be kind of neat if this guy's writing was clear enough to identify Hitler BEFORE he became Fuhrer and came within a hair of being the master of the world? Maybe the appeasement deal would have been replaced with a much smaller war and a LOT fewer dead.

But a LOT of his writing is gibberish. This is supposed to describe Napoleon:

"From a simple soldier he will rise to the empire,
From the short robe he will attain the long.
Great swarms of bees shall arise."

You've gotta use a LOT of imagination to identify this as anything that makes sense.


Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

[GHook93]

Very true

Quote by: Scribbler1 I don't want to sidetrack this thread so I'll just make this one point about Nostradamus. To the best of my knowledge every so-called prediction of his is recognized as such in hindsight and therefore useless as a predictive device. Granted, some of his stuff could be interpreted as a vague description of an event or person AFTER the event or person becomes known, not before. Wouldn't it be kind of neat if this guy's writing was clear enough to identify Hitler BEFORE he became Fuhrer and came within a hair of being the master of the world? Maybe the appeasement deal would have been replaced with a much smaller war and a LOT fewer dead. But a LOT of his writing is gibberish. This is supposed to describe Napoleon: "From a simple soldier he will rise to the empire, From the short robe he will attain the long. Great swarms of bees shall arise." You've gotta use a LOT of imagination to identify this as anything that makes sense. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

[Osborn F Enready]

Sometimes, having great powers of prediction is simply the application of a (great) tactical minds logic before the fog of war sets in.

There is indeed a fog of war, but one lesson learned by history is to start playing the game long before the fog sets in if your "goals" are pre-defined enough to allow it. Whether in war or peace, religion or physical world, man is his own worst enemy due to humar err, the imperfections of the natural world and our interactivity with it, and our limited ability to speak and communicate without the evils of some false "pre-programmed" mantra of state or beliefs that only and always pre-supposes "black and white, right or wrong, good or evil" instead of simply isolation and prosperity.

I ascribe to the idea that many who "live within the texts" of one religion or another, definitely, whether consciously (in some cases), or unconsciously (in most cases) find themselves steered toward checkpoints, or goals that the religion enshrines as notable or necessary passages of human life.. I think Nostradamus was one who used his skill of human observation and certain "laws" of human err to weave a story that would most likely be followed, especially when enough vague "descriptions" can be plunked throughout the script so it can appear similar to many things, places, and peoples to them, themselves.

If I believed for sure in pre-destiny, it would be in the only sure thing I can logically predict.....

we will destroy ourselves, time, space or natures effects won't have time or the pleasure of killing us.

Nostradamus thought much the same thing, and, we are bound to make him right in one form or another, because all of the signal markers from his story are vague enough to be correlated and assumed into any society that should stand when the day comes that man ultimately fails.

That is just my two cents, and what that very "top of the head" reality inspired post aroused in me.

Great eye G-Hook, and great (though reality bound to be bleak) post. I would say you have your eye on the ball.


Keep in mind though.... I am still "naieve" enough to think this could all be stopped if people of the world took control of their governments, and enforced basic civil liberties around the globe.

Power to the PEOPLE, down with big government. Big government has never worked, and it never will until people lose (or are deprived of) natural thought, ambition and desire.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Maybe if enough idiotic Non-Leaders call it WW3, that will make it so.
Like this mental reject:

Link Gingrich says it's World War III Posted by David Postman at 12:54 PM Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich says America is in World War III and President Bush should say so. In an interview in Bellevue this morning Gingrich said Bush should call a joint session of Congress the first week of September and talk about global military conflicts in much starker terms than have been heard from the president. "We need to have the militancy that says 'We're not going to lose a city,' " Gingrich said. He talks about the need to recognize World War III as important for military strategy and political strategy. Gingrich said he is "very worried" about Republican's facing fall elections and says the party must have the "nerve" to nationalize the elections and make the 2006 campaigns about a liberal Democratic agenda rather than about President Bush's record. Gingrich says that as of now Republicans "are sailing into the wind" in congressional campaigns. He said that's in part because of the Iraq war, adding, "Iraq is hard and painful and we do not explain it very well."

I think he is saying we need to get our asses kicked some more. We havent lost enough lives and money on stuff thats none of our bidness.

Newt needs to take a pill.
We havent butted our noses into the current battle yet. That alone means its not WW3
Sometimes other countries have to handle their own problems.

[gr8fuldaniel]

I dont care how much this escalates either.

Since Israel over-reacted to begin with, it doesnt matter what other countries get involved.

Israel fucked up and they dont deserve any help until they raise a white flag.

Edit to add:

In an interview in Bellevue this morning Gingrich said ....

Isnt Bellevue a mental hospital in NY?

2nd Edit:
From the same article above:

Gingrich said he is "very worried" about Republican's facing fall elections and says the party must have the "nerve" to nationalize the elections and make the 2006 campaigns about a liberal Democratic agenda rather than about President Bush's record.

Yep they are scared.

Lets jump into another disasterous war for the sake of maintaining power.
Then "Wag the Democrat".
Somebody gag this guy with a hand gren...... With something.

[GHook93]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel I dont care how much this escalates either. Since Israel over-reacted to begin with, it doesnt matter what other countries get involved. Israel fucked up and they dont deserve any help until they raise a white flag.

Israel's reaction was similar to many other reaction throughout history. They wanted an excuse to attack Hezbollah in Lebannon. Don't forget this is an organization that has been shooting rockets into Israel for years and have been calling for her destruction for years. Now Hezbollah crossed Israel's borders and attacked. Israel used this as an opportunity to attack a dangerous and obviously ruthless enemy.

[grandpa]

Quote by: GHook93 Israel's reaction was similar to many other reaction throughout history. They wanted an excuse to attack Hezbollah in Lebannon.

Israel claims to be doing this for Israel's sake. Hezbollah does what it does for Lebanon. Same bullshit, different abstract entities.

Grandpa h.

[SoccerfreakAB2]

Quote by: Trotsky And by the way numbnuts, I object to your racist remark regarding the sobriety or lack of of Irish people, that is a a disgusting racial stereotype.

Half Irish, I know tons of Irish people who are proud of their lack of sobriety. So watch what your policing.