Help Dubya remember a mistake

[Young]

He couldn't think of one, can You? I'd start with him being born, but i'd love to hear where You think His mistakes Lie, or tell Us if You think he's perfect.

Young

[Impenitent]

not perfect... but you can list his mistakes now

[Evil Baby]

His tarriffs.

His subsadies to American farmers that no other country in the world could dream of matching while he bitches about Canadian subsidies to our tree loggers.

His cut down more trees to stop forest fires... Riiiiiiiiiight.

His attempts to drill oil in National parks

How the U.S. is looked apon by the world, even the Western world.

Doesn't know how to eat a pretzel

Fiscal irresponsiblity

God I wish I could spell

[Impenitent]

Originally posted by Evil Baby, His tarriffs. ....not a mistake His subsadies to American farmers that no other country in the world could dream of matching while he bitches about Canadian subsidies to our tree loggers. .....not a mistake His cut down more trees to stop forest fires... Riiiiiiiiiight. ....not a mistake... learn something about firefighting... His attempts to drill oil in National parks ....not a mistake ...ANWR needs to be tapped as does the west coast How the U.S. is looked apon by the world, even the Western world. ....that isn't bush's fault... other people are driven by hate, that's on them... Doesn't know how to eat a pretzel ...yes, this is one mistake... Fiscal irresponsiblity ...not a mistake, he took issues away from the party of the impeached liar by doing so... God I wish I could spell ...that isn't bush's fault either

[Evil Baby]

His tarriffs. ....not a mistake

Yeah cause his tarriffs didnt' almost lead to a very undesired reaction from the EU. I wonder what the high tarriff war led to last time???????

His subsadies to American farmers that no other country in the world could dream of matching while he bitches about Canadian subsidies to our tree loggers.  .....not a mistake

You penalize one country for doing one thing, then you do that exact thing and praise Capitalism, doesn't make much sense to me.

His cut down more trees to stop forest fires... Riiiiiiiiiight. ....not a mistake... learn something about firefighting...

Learn something about National Forest then come back.

His attempts to drill oil in National parks ....not a mistake ...ANWR needs to be tapped as does the west coast

screw, wild life, natural life and what not, need to make more money for my big oil companies instead of finding and alternative source ofpower like most of the world.

How the U.S. is looked apon by the world, even the Western world. ....that isn't bush's fault... other people are driven by hate, that's on them...

The average person is driven by hate. When the leader of the U.S. is considered the most dangerous man to world security there are some issues

Doesn't know how to eat a pretzel  ...yes, this is one mistake...

Can't say much more

Fiscal irresponsiblity ...not a mistake, he took issues away from the party of the impeached liar by doing so...

I could understand how runing a 600 billion shortfall wouldn't be a mistake, really I can...

God I wish I could spell ...that isn't bush's fault either

That wasn't actually directed at Bush but myself.

[Mr.Vicchio]

I retract this statement.

[Suburbanite]

Mr.Vicchio don't insult me. Don't insult this website. Don't patronize it either. We allow people to speak their minds; this is not a partisan website. You can't defend your points then degrade your own mental weakness not the website for having an open forum.

[Mr.Vicchio]

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I will withhold my smart alec retort and appologize to a point.

This forum should be used by the Kerry Kamp for pointers seeing as its so anti-Bush.

[Suburbanite]

This website is nothing but a place for people to express their political opinions in the form of a debate. Perhaps it is people in general who are so anti-Bush.

[Mr.Vicchio]

No, this forum, like most, is full of political junkies. I bowl on a league out in town. In Liberal Maine.. I sould say its about 50-40-10. For against and undecided/don't care when it comes to Bush.

I have met 1 single person in RL whose as... vhemently agaisnt Bush as many of the posters here seem to be. 1 PERSON!

Even my grandparents, prior to 9/11 Democrats that thought Bush was the worst president in the world, aren't this... vocal or exterme.

Its the web. I run a political debate forum okay? its more evenly split in the for against Bush line. I don't mind people are agaisnt Bush, that the beauty of America, and the net, you can speak your mind! But man, the rhetoric around here... and the jump any pro-bush poster is.. its bad seriously. It puts people like myself into cranky jerk mode when generally.. I aint like that.

[Mr.Vicchio]

DOH doubled my bad.

[PatrickHenry]

Why do we have to have a retard for a president? It is embarrassing before the international community. I can't listen to his speeches, the syntax, the phrasing, the pauses after every fifth word so he can try to think what comes next. Where did this curse come from? Are the citizens so blind that they consider this an adequate leader? If we have another four years of this I will go out of my mind.

[Suburbanite]

Originally posted by Mr.Vicchio, No, this forum, like most, is full of political junkies. I bowl on a league out in town. In Liberal Maine.. I sould say its about 50-40-10. For against and undecided/don't care when it comes to Bush. I have met 1 single person in RL whose as... vhemently agaisnt Bush as many of the posters here seem to be. 1 PERSON! Even my grandparents, prior to 9/11 Democrats that thought Bush was the worst president in the world, aren't this... vocal or exterme. Its the web. I run a political debate forum okay? its more evenly split in the for against Bush line. I don't mind people are agaisnt Bush, that the beauty of America, and the net, you can speak your mind! But man, the rhetoric around here... and the jump any pro-bush poster is.. its bad seriously. It puts people like myself into cranky jerk mode when generally.. I aint like that.

The majority of anti-Bush stuff here is from Libertarians though, not Liberals. There is just as much Kerry insults and Clinton ones. But you happened to have missed those somehow?

[Mr.Vicchio]

I don't read all threads probably.

Libertarians? Like that boortz guy... he's pretty cool.

Libertarians would be anti PA no matter what that would explain some of it.

[Suburbanite]

I don't know how many of them found this place, though they always offer a new perspective I'll say that much. Osborn, Henry, commonsense and others are Libertarians from what I can tell.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Perhaps that is a mistake on my part. Libertarinism is not something I am overtly familiar with.

Thats the prodrugs no government near anarchy line of thinking isn't it?

[Suburbanite]

For the most part. They are huge fans of the Constitution, anti-Federalists, pro-private freedoms (of them, smoking pot). They have some who are more conservative and some who are more liberal. I've never talked to a Libertarian who wasn't a Democrat or a Republican at one time.
Overall there world view is smart and impressive, but often they do little about it, which is my major critique of the party.

[Mr.Vicchio]

I'll look into it just to keep me from making a fool of myself, at the very least.

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by Suburbanite, I don't know how many of them found this place, though they always offer a new perspective I'll say that much. Osborn, Henry, commonsense and others are Libertarians from what I can tell.

Sean spammed me twice, look what ya get...
I'm Constitution Party. A lot of libertarian type views but an emphasis on Godliness and morality I don't see as a specific focus from the libertarians.
"Find out what we mean when we say we are committed to a civil government in these United States that acknowledges God, defends the family, and restores the American Republic to its founding principles." from Peroutka's promo.
I'm having trouble getting the site for the Party to come up tonight but here's the url: http://www.constitutionparty.com/ Check the platform.

Here's our candidate: http://www.peroutka2004.com/

I think this forum has a lotta atheists and other skeptics, but for christians who aren't completely sold on Bush or Kerry (they're both Skull and Bones, filled with the spirit of the enemy), you owe it to yourself to look at this man's candidacy.

[Mr.Vicchio]

I can't subscribe to the whole Bush is skull and bones routine. Sorry.

I think Bush, while not an eloquint speaker, and not the "smartest" person in terms of sheer intelligence we've ever had as president. I think hes a lot like Reagan, lets his staff and officials deal with the small stuff, but on big issues, and certain specific issues he feels strongly about, he uses his faith in God, and his own judgement, lays it out and marches ahead. He may not be the best preisdent or the best person ever elected, but by God he is IMHO an honest man that stepped beyond himself ans grew into a Great President with a moral clarity and straight vision to carry out what HE THINKS is right.

And for that, he has my vote. I will look into your party Patrick, but why waste a vote on someone who not a in million years will get elected? Hmmm? 3rd parties keep wasting time going for the big show, they need to work small and spread out. Tahts the biggest mistake of every 3rd party in the last 50 years. They keep trying to run for President, and look like loosers.