THE reason for the current hate for Wal-Mart.

[amana1man]

So there are hungary, homeless people living under bridges and Walmart would rather throw there two days old sweet rolls or there bent can of beans in the compactor because they say "if we give them handouts they will be expecting it and will not better themselves. While working at Walmart in Coralville Iowa my superviser told me to throw two garbage sacks filled with roasted chicken in the compactor. The chicken had been roasted about 10 hours ago. The garbage sacks were so heavy I could hardly get them in the compactor. A roast costing $12.00 is left untill the expireation date is at hand, then it is threw in the compactor. Why not mark it down to say $1.00 a pound and sell it before the expireration date. No it would help some needy person. I emptied out $18.00 jugs of tide because of cracked lids. Hey you will not see Iowa"s Fareway or Hy Vee doing this. They mark it down and sell it. The Hy Vee in smaller towns are much more apt to do this then the ones in Iowa City or Cedar Rapids. Fareway, all the Fareway stores follow guide lines for selling it before throwing it. Thank you Fareway for being aware of natural resources and the benefit both to yourself and those who are impoverished by cutting prices to move items nearing experation dates.
Walmart is bad for America please watch the public television for the story about Walmart.

[Cephus]

Quote by: amana1man So there are hungary, homeless people living under bridges and Walmart would rather throw there two days old sweet rolls or there bent can of beans in the compactor because they say "if we give them handouts they will be expecting it and will not better themselves. While working at Walmart in Coralville Iowa my superviser told me to throw two garbage sacks filled with roasted chicken in the compactor. The chicken had been roasted about 10 hours ago. The garbage sacks were so heavy I could hardly get them in the compactor. A roast costing $12.00 is left untill the expireation date is at hand, then it is threw in the compactor. Why not mark it down to say $1.00 a pound and sell it before the expireration date. No it would help some needy person. I emptied out $18.00 jugs of tide because of cracked lids. Hey you will not see Iowa"s Fareway or Hy Vee doing this. They mark it down and sell it. The Hy Vee in smaller towns are much more apt to do this then the ones in Iowa City or Cedar Rapids. Fareway, all the Fareway stores follow guide lines for selling it before throwing it. Thank you Fareway for being aware of natural resources and the benefit both to yourself and those who are impoverished by cutting prices to move items nearing experation dates.

Ever think there might be a reason? There was a local supermarket that used to give away food to the homeless that they had written off, until the homeless decided that just meant that everything was free and they kept going into the store and eating food off the shelves. As soon as they stopped giving it away, they stopped suffering losses. It's likely that Wal-Mart cannot mark things down and sell it, their return agreements with the manufacturers likely forbid it. When something is damaged, they get reimbursed by the manufacturer and they have contractually agreed to destroy the product rather than incur the cost of returning it to the manufacturer. If they reduced the price and sold it, they would be in violation of their legal contracts and subject to lawsuits.

Of course, you don't care about any of that, you'd rather lash out mindlessly at Wal-Mart.

Walmart is bad for America please watch the public television for the story about Walmart.

Wal-Mart has a larger economy than some states. It's nice that you fall hook, line and sinker for the ridiculous left-wing whine-fest on PBS, but come on, at least TRY to think before you post.

[amana1man]

Quote by: Cephus Ever think there might be a reason? There was a local supermarket that used to give away food to the homeless that they had written off, until the homeless decided that just meant that everything was free and they kept going into the store and eating food off the shelves. As soon as they stopped giving it away, they stopped suffering losses. It's likely that Wal-Mart cannot mark things down and sell it, their return agreements with the manufacturers likely forbid it. When something is damaged, they get reimbursed by the manufacturer and they have contractually agreed to destroy the product rather than incur the cost of returning it to the manufacturer. If they reduced the price and sold it, they would be in violation of their legal contracts and subject to lawsuits.

If Hy Vee and Fareway can reduce prices of day old products before dumping than so can Walmart. I dumped meat, dairy products and cans of food. A count was not took as to where loss was from, there were not any upc lables removed for inventory. When I commented to my boss as to finding some boxs which were marked as 24 cans to have only 20 cans he told me "thats okay because our price includes factoring in of loss of this type." I guess that is why the cost of Walmart 70% hamburger is $1.69 per pound while at Big G in Marengo Iowa I can get 70% hamburger for $1.49 a pound. When talking about the new Walmart store management bragged that the loan to pay for the grocery part of the store was paid off in a year. Now you know why.

Quote by: Cephus Of course, you don't care about any of that, you'd rather lash out mindlessly at Wal-Mart.

I seen how Walmart treats it employees first hand. I seen Walmart managers sneak around watching customers like the customers were already branded shoplifters. I seen the mass amounts of good food get thrown away that could have gone to shelters. For example a snack pack of chips has 6 bags in the pack but if the outer bag gets tore they throw the whole thing away. When the $18.00 jugs of soap get poured down the drain the upc is cut off and sent in for credit. What about all that soap. Hell they could ask employees to save our milk jugs for them so the soap could be save to go to a sanctioned shelter. We got hunger in this country and unless you stick your head in the sand or live in a crystal palace you see this. I seen dozens living homeless in Colorado a few years back. One was a war veteran living in a cave. This is America for god sake, we can do better.

Quote by: Cephus Wal-Mart has a larger economy than some states. It's nice that you fall hook, line and sinker for the ridiculous left-wing whine-fest on PBS, but come on, at least TRY to think before you post.

I have yet to see something on public television which was untrue. So was it a lie when Walmart had to pay millions in fines for hireing illegal aliens to do cleaning. Was it not true when Walmart had to pay several hundred thousand in fines for discrimation of workers.
What about the story from a republican news paper which told of Walmart hiring the old people who work only a few days a week. Walmart is charging so much for insurance that they can not afford it and are still on Medicare. Some Walmarts in the south pay only $6.30 an hour. That is less than $13000.00 per year working 40 hours a week. How can you afford much of anything. But hey this must be a celebration for the right wings, low cost labor. We have stores which treat people well. Sears Roebucks prices are high but I have not a complaint about service or quality. Sears tries to keep there customers by this: They are commited to service after the fact. I once worked at Hy Vee and have no problem with them.
Walmart hired a 60 year old who managed a Dall Food store untill it closed. He sums it up when he said he had never seen so much greed untill he started working in Walmart as a night manager. Oh he quite in less than a month.

[amana1man]

[quote]Some look at the glass as haft full while others look at it as haft empty. A woman will first see a dirty glass and some stinky stuff. The glass came from Walmart and her son left her a surprise.

[Morgan_Freeman]

Quote by: amana1man I seen a show on public television which showed many factories in the USA were forced to close because Walmart refused to buy from them because they could buy from China and make a better profit by going so.

That's because of the countless regulations we have on the labor market here. Americans are simply unwilling to work these manufacturing jobs.

[amana1man]

Quote by: Morgan_Freeman That's because of the countless regulations we have on the labor market here. Americans are simply unwilling to work these manufacturing jobs.

The workers did not quit work. The job they done every day was took away by greed when the factory was forced to close its doors.

[Morgan_Freeman]

Right, and why was the factory forced to close its doors? Because of the hostile regulatory environment the US has become.

[RVonse]

So how do you equate a hostile regualtory environment with saying Americans are unwilling to work manufacturing jobs? One has nothing to do with the other. Are you expecting American workers to move to Mexico in order to keep their job? Your logic makes no sense at all.

[Morgan_Freeman]

One has nothing to do with the other? So no Americans were responsible for creating the regulations... in America?

:eek:

[Cephus]

Quote by: Morgan_Freeman That's because of the countless regulations we have on the labor market here. Americans are simply unwilling to work these manufacturing jobs.

At $5 a week? No, of course Americans are unwilling to work those manufacturing jobs. Unfortunately, American companies are not being required to pay a comparable wage to people overseas, so they often do go to India or China where they can pay pennies on the dollar for labor, don't have to follow any environmental laws, etc. and get cheap products.

It isn't that Americans are unwilling, it's that they are economically unable. If you can manage to eat, put clothes on your back and a roof over your head on $5 a week, please be sure to share the secret with the rest of the class.

[Morgan_Freeman]

Quote by: Cephus It isn't that Americans are unwilling, it's that they are economically unable.

So instead of simply not taking the jobs, we ban them? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

[Cephus]

Quote by: Morgan_Freeman So instead of simply not taking the jobs, we ban them? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Not quite sure what you mean, but in a lot of cases, a person can make more money not working and receiving welfare than they could taking one of these sub-minimum-wage jobs.

[Morgan_Freeman]

Quote by: Cephus Not quite sure what you mean, but in a lot of cases, a person can make more money not working and receiving welfare than they could taking one of these sub-minimum-wage jobs.

I mean that these jobs are illegal in the United States. Even if I wanted to take one, I couldn't. It pisses me off, because I've always wanted to work in a factory.

[Clarence]

Quote by: Morgan_Freeman I mean that these jobs are illegal in the United States. Even if I wanted to take one, I couldn't. It pisses me off, because I've always wanted to work in a factory.

Don't know why. That's really funny.

[Cephus]

Quote by: Morgan_Freeman I mean that these jobs are illegal in the United States. Even if I wanted to take one, I couldn't. It pisses me off, because I've always wanted to work in a factory.

The job isn't illegal, just the pittance that they pay the workers. You're welcome to open a factory anywhere you want, so long as you follow US laws in doing so.

[northtexan]

Quote by: Morgan_Freeman I mean that these jobs are illegal in the United States. Even if I wanted to take one, I couldn't. It pisses me off, because I've always wanted to work in a factory.

Hey, tell you what: take a factory job at the regular wages and donate the excess above $5 per hour to charity. Oops, factory closed -- since WalMart started buying from China instead.

Until there are fair trade agreements, the current free trade agreements will continue to destroy American industry. If that goes far enough, it won't matter what our international agreements are: we'll be a Third World country pushed around by the new bullies, likely China and India.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Morgan_Freeman ......because I've always wanted to work in a factory.

Trust me, it gets old fast. My dad owned a small tooling company, I worked for minimum wage at a job that you could train a monkey to do. Stared at the same brick wall for years. It was hopeless. Minimum wage was not a living wage then, and its not now.

This is an MP3 of Thom Hartmann interviewing Dr Edwin Locke of the Ayn Rand Institute about the Wal-Mart-ification of America. Its an interesting debate (34:46) There are other commercial free Thom Hartmann audio files available for FREE, here.
This particular interview was found on the Corporate Economy page

This is a short flash presentation about WalMart and Eminent Domination: "Your Property Given to Deserving Corporations!" by Mark Fiore.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel My dad owned a small tooling company

I actually machined thousands of Bomb Lugs for the defense dept. through North American Rockwell. One of the reasons I am a peace-nik today. Also machined parts that went to the moon. (Just making small talk now)

[Osborn F Enready]

northtexan said:
Until there are fair trade agreements, the current free trade agreements will continue to destroy American industry.

I say:
What you are referring to as "free trade" agreements are nothing at all resembling free trade.

They are an attempt by buffoons to regulate free trade, and their failure is the result.

[Morgan_Freeman]

Quote by: Cephus The job isn't illegal, just the pittance that they pay the workers.

The wage is an inherent feature of the job. The market determines wage rates.