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Old Jun 23, 2006, 12:37 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
Athena
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Death of the United States Democracy

Before the United States of America engages in any more wars or economic sanctions in the name of democracy, it better take a good look at itself. Only when it had liberal education was it manifesting a social democracy with liberty and freedom. However, since adopting the German model of bureaucracy and German model of education for technology for military and industrial purpose, it has changed, just as Germany was changed when the Prussians took control of Germany.

When the Prussians took control of Germany it ended the sovereignty of independent cities, just as the US states are loosing their sovereignty as they allow the federal government to rule over all the states, consolidating power at the federal level. The Prussians also centralized public education, and focused it on technology for military and industrial purpose. This control of public education, allowed them to destroy Germany's national heroes, and change national values, making efficiency a higher value than individual freedom, just has been done in the USA, since 1958.

When the USA first warred against Christian Germany, the battle cry was, "Democracy and autocracy can not co exist". However, the USA used the autocratic English model for its industry, proving the two can co exist. And since the USA replaced its liberal education, with the technological model, it is witnessing the same manifestation of a police state with centralized power, that was the enemy it defended its democracy against. In fact, at the end of the second world war, Eisenhower, a military man who became president, praised the Germans for their contribution to democracy. Now if you think the military life is one of liberty and freedom, you might agree with Eisenhower. Their are some who love military and autocratic industrial order, However, it is not the order for which the USA stood. It is not the order of democracy with liberty and freedom. But some God fearing, and evil fearing, let's just say, fearful Christians, could prefer the lack the liberty and freedom that was the Germany the USA fought against, and is what the USA is becoming.

Here is one tiny example of the horror that is swallowing the USA. Education for technology, and the destruction of national heroes and praising of efficiency, has justified giving a few people the power of tyranny. The Attorney General of Oregon is one of the these people with the power of tyranny, as his ruling is singular and final.. He has ruled a law can be interpreted to mean, that the state can be sued, if something happens to an adult in a foster home, if the adult was left unattended and state policy allows this. As a result hundreds of adults who were independent, but living in fostering homes because they need assistance, had to give up their house keys, and can not be left on their own when the care provider needs to take someone to a doctors office or go to the grocery store. Now all the once independent adults in foster care, must leave when the care provider leaves. These people have lost dignity and freedom and their independence, because of a decision made without their consensus. There is nothing they can do about it until 2007 when the legislature meets and can rewrite the law, because one man has decided the technological meaning of the law, not the human meaning of it.

All across the USA this fixation on technological correctness and dismissing of human meaning is changing the character of the society. Medial professionals and bankers fear what will happen to them if they do not verify people's addresses. They fear the power of government to punish them, but not what is happening to their democracy. If immediate action is not taken, the liberty and freedom for which their democracy stands, will be as forgotten as the democracy of Athens, and the world will not remember the USA as a nation that stood for liberty and freedom, but as the nation that stands for power and opposed liberty and freedom. Just as those who remember Athens at all, remember the final years when tyrants ruled, not the golden days of Athens democracy. The memory of the liberty the freedom of the USA is dying with its old people, and their children hold values for a police state.
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Old Jun 24, 2006, 11:13 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
twoanickel
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Yes, Athena, and the public schools are indoctrinating children to make them agreeable to living in a police state; for example, having them fill out forms that question them about their home life. The Nazi brown shirts were well trained to report people who were not toeing the "heil Hitler" line of thought.

Your speech makes me think you have a classical (liberal arts) education. Are you familiar with Hillsdale College? The first pages of Shiver's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich go into good detail about the things that were taking place in German society even a hundred years before Hitler that were shaping the German people to be receptive to a man such as Hitler. Fascinating. It proves that the things that effect a nation's culture have far reaching effects, proving further that there is good reason to do battle against false ideas that darken (muddy) ideas rather than bring light to issues of the day. One retort that is too common today is, "well, that is just your opinion" as if nothing is nailed down by absolutes and everything is up in the air with no fixed principles for guidelines.
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