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Old Jun 21, 2006, 04:39 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Consequences of World War

I once read an article which im dieing to find again that basically pieced back all the way to WWII that Iraq war as well as problems in isreal are related to WWII, talked about land problems in isral and the like. Made alot of sense.

Well the question i pose is what were the real consequences of WWII the last 'good' war that has seen the creation of the EU, the UN, possible could of been a cause of 9/11...but any way what do you lot think?

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Old Jun 21, 2006, 04:51 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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9/11 was a false-flag operation by power mad neo-Nazis inside Washington DC. The end of WW2 was a time when Nazi intelligence operatives were incorporated en masse into the OSS, which later became the CIA. Their despicable methods and interests became incorporated into the hidden agenda of those in charge of US domestic and foreign policy. Black ops, secretive govenrment programs, the National Security State, militarism as a way of interacting with the international community. So yes, you could say the roots of 9/11 are traceable to WW2.

The roots are much deeper than that limited view, however.


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Old Jun 22, 2006, 01:12 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Considering WWII was partially a result of the Great War, which initiated the process of carving up the Middle East into nice little nation-states of arbitrarily chosen borders, the roots of turmoil in the region go back nearly a century. But PH brings up a good point I had never considered very deeply. Namely, that Nazism didn't really die with Hitler; it was quietly assimilated into the very fabric of the world's major governments.


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Old Jun 22, 2006, 01:47 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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9/11 was a false-flag operation by power mad neo-Nazis inside Washington DC. The end of WW2 was a time when Nazi intelligence operatives were incorporated en masse into the OSS, which later became the CIA. Their despicable methods and interests became incorporated into the hidden agenda of those in charge of US domestic and foreign policy. Black ops, secretive govenrment programs, the National Security State, militarism as a way of interacting with the international community. So yes, you could say the roots of 9/11 are traceable to WW2.

The roots are much deeper than that limited view, however.
We also kidnapped Werner Von Braun from the Nazis. The same guy who developed the V-1 and V-2 rockets and was damn close to launching a rocket that could reach NYC to deliver bombs that Hitler's bombers couldn't reach without refueling. Luckily the US bombed out the manufacturing facility when it learned of this rocket.

Von Braun later developed the entire US space program. He certainly was too valuable to put on trial for war crimes.


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Old Jun 22, 2006, 01:58 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I once read an article which im dieing to find again that basically pieced back all the way to WWII that Iraq war as well as problems in isreal are related to WWII, talked about land problems in isral and the like. Made alot of sense.

Well the question i pose is what were the real consequences of WWII the last 'good' war that has seen the creation of the EU, the UN, possible could of been a cause of 9/11...but any way what do you lot think?

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The consequences of WWII are many, but the most important was that it shaped the modern world we live in today. From the creation of Israel, to the defeat of Communism in Europe, and the subsequent break up of the USSR, the post war era cemented the US domination and imperialism around the world.


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Old Jun 26, 2006, 07:32 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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The formation of Europe and the UN and many other organisations date back to WWII but also i feel that since the days of WWII politics is becoming more radical...or is this just natural progression. Since like the 1900s Britain has never seen a Lberal Democrat party - a centrist party it has only seen the likes of Thathcer - in the right and Blair - in the right..mmm wait mostly in the right..(ignoring macmillion etc... they dont count :- P)

But why did war do this - is'nt it sposed to bring peace? or did it? maybe policies such as having nucleur weapons for the MAD idea - is peace?
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Old Jun 27, 2006, 10:54 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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WWI was the prolongation, after a 20-year hiatus, of WWI, but what with the Japanese, atomic weapons and the role played by the USSR in the war, WWII completely reset international relations.

Anyone who thinks politics are more radical now (where, in the US?) than back then should read up a bit on the Great Depression -- then think again.

And the victors of WWII skimmed off intelligence operatives and other goodies left over from the German and Japanese machines? Twas ever thus.


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Old Jun 27, 2006, 12:54 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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I once read an article which im dieing to find again that basically pieced back all the way to WWII that Iraq war as well as problems in isreal are related to WWII, talked about land problems in isral and the like. Made alot of sense.

Well the question i pose is what were the real consequences of WWII the last 'good' war that has seen the creation of the EU, the UN, possible could of been a cause of 9/11...but any way what do you lot think?

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I think you'd probably better look back a lot farther than WWll for the roots of Arab/Jewish conflicts and Western Nations meddling, conquering, and defining country's boudaries, take a look at the Crusades, and the story of Jewish slaves in Egypt (which isn't substantiated except in the Old Testament.)
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Old Jun 29, 2006, 08:47 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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I once read an article which im dieing to find again that basically pieced back all the way to WWII that Iraq war as well as problems in isreal are related to WWII, talked about land problems in isral and the like. Made alot of sense.

Well the question i pose is what were the real consequences of WWII the last 'good' war that has seen the creation of the EU, the UN, possible could of been a cause of 9/11...but any way what do you lot think?

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Are you sure you mean WorldWar II ?
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