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Young · Apr 20, 2004, 11:08 pm

The past four years have been really Bad, but Imagine a Man as evil as Bush...not having to worry about re-election. God help Us, he could do whatever he wanted & wouldn't have to worry at all. I know that a lot of my fellow Republicans are only sticking with this Idiot because of how horrible the alternative is, and sure Nader could never win the electoral college, but giving Bush four more years could destroy Our country.

Young

Apr 20, 2004, 11:11 pm

Evil this, evil that. Evil this, evil that. You aren't republican. Bush is the best option to maintain this country, Kerry or Nader is not. They are beyond nutcases.

Apr 20, 2004, 11:27 pm

As bad as things are G is right again. W is the lesser of the three evils. It is a sad commentary of the state of our Republic when I make this statement. Fortunately, W is doing the right thing in the war on terror despite all the comments to stating otherwise.

Young · Apr 20, 2004, 11:48 pm

Leaving Our borders wide-open, going to War with a Muslim country using a Lie, then joking about the Lie, fully backing Israel's pull-out that is seen as a Joke by Muslims because of the way it is being done, these are things that don't help. Jordan's King, one of Our best allies is fed Up, Mubarek says Bush has created 100 Bin Ladens & that Muslims hate America more now than Ever...but somehow you guys think that this is progress?

Young

Apr 20, 2004, 11:49 pm

This is more propoganda and words... have anything else to say?

**Sean** · Apr 20, 2004, 11:49 pm

You guys all amaze me. You have such absolute opinions about Bush, (he's evil/he's not a nutcase), and yet you provide no debate, no discussion. I sometimes wonder if you just come here to post your agenda over and over like a broken record.

Apr 20, 2004, 11:50 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Sean,
You guys all amaze me. You have such absolute opinions about Bush, (he's evil/he's not a nutcase), and yet you provide no debate, no discussion. I sometimes wonder if you just come here to post your agenda over and over like a broken record.

That's why I'm getting tired of these same old threads.. if he provides nothing to start off this thread, why should I? He already posted four of them.

**Sean** · Apr 20, 2004, 11:52 pm

..why should you provide a good argument, if someone doesn't? Is that logical? I don't think so. Raise the bar please.

Young · Apr 21, 2004, 12:01 am

Do any of You disagree that if Bush wins the Election, that he will no longer have to worry about public perception?

Apr 21, 2004, 12:02 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Young,
Do any of You disagree that if Bush wins the Election, that he will no longer have to worry about public perception?

Actually I think he will so a republican can win in 2008.

argonak · Apr 21, 2004, 02:49 am

scariest thing about the next election (in my opinion) is that if bush loses, we'll get kerry, who i don't feel has the right sort of attitude to deal with the real world. but if we keep bush (disregarding any actions he may or may not take and their positive/negative effects) we'll most likely have Hilary running for president against an unkown republican candiate (or worse Cheney).

An extremely charismatic woman who blew into New York like a spring wind and won an election with amazing ease, who is accomplished, intteligent, and (i'm afraid this is merely another opinion based on observations) the scariest person I know of and a power mad politician willing to do anything to get her way.

i'd take DEAN over hillary any day of the weak as our commander in chief, that woman just scares me.

Apr 21, 2004, 03:02 am

I'd take Stalin over Hillery.

Apr 21, 2004, 03:34 am

You people all amaze me, happily prepared to choose the least *evil*. Whatever happened to striving for the best?

How many of you think you are free? You certainly don't appear to be, instead you appear to be slaves to the parties and their advertising budgets and the choice of least evil offered to you.

Not one of you appears to consider the idea of doing anything, but accepting a candidate from a party. Hell, I'd vote Nader if for no other reason than to attempt to reclaim something precious that seems to have been lost, Independence.

Apr 21, 2004, 04:04 am

Nader is a joke and a environut. To vote for him would be totally against my beliefs.

commonsense · Apr 21, 2004, 04:11 am

One huge successful outcome of the War in Iraq is we can now count among our new allies in the middle-east one who, after decades of opposition is now strongly by our side:
Mommar Khadafi.

See. Stability and peace in the region complementing U.S. interests is at hand. (excuse me while I bust-out laughing)

Autophage · Apr 21, 2004, 10:07 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Giancarlo,
Evil this, evil that. Evil this, evil that. You aren't republican. Bush is the best option to maintain this country, Kerry or Nader is not. They are beyond nutcases.

Kerry or Nader aren't the best options to maintain this country... but neither is Bush. Lesser of two evils (or three) is a matter of opinion, but I'd not be inclined to say it's Bush. Evil? I'd agree that he's not, but perhaps there are evil people who are quite fit to rule - it all depends on your definition of 'evil'.

lostkiwi · Apr 22, 2004, 12:10 am

Bush evil? No, Misguided maybe, bad for anyone who appreciates liberty defiantly, but I wouldn't go so far as evil.

Bush, Kerry, Nader? There are 150 other people running for President, choose one. You're Candidate may not win but there are people paying attention, people that have a chance of changing policy in this country. Send a message, vote your conscience.

Apr 22, 2004, 12:25 am

I heard the other day that Jesse Ventura is considering running for president in '08. He specifically want to bring forth the matter of taxation. He, like me, supports the national sales tax over the current system of taxing income.
I may just get directly involved in campaigning next election cycle.

Young · Apr 22, 2004, 02:33 am

whose his running mate? Randy "The Macho Man" Savage...gotta have a Tag team partner, Kerry do really good to figure that Out soon. Bush needs to do himself a favor & lock himself in a closet until Nov 1st, when they announce the Bin Laden capture. "Me & the President Kozumi of Japan, oops I mean PM Kozumi were having dinner...Later he told me that his Favorite movie was High Noon, he said ""You Like Cooper"", Took me quite awhile to figure out what he meant, I thought he was asking a question, but he was saying that I was like Cooper."

Young

Mr.Vicchio · Apr 22, 2004, 07:03 am

I can't wait till november, and Bush is re-elected, 4 years of hysterics from the left. Seriously, I am looking forward to that.

I also fear someone doing something drastic about that too...

Apr 20, 2004, 11:08 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	The past four years have been really Bad, but Imagine a Man as evil as Bush...not having to worry about re-election. God help Us, he could do whatever he wanted & wouldn't have to worry at all. I know that a lot of my fellow Republicans are only sticking with this Idiot because of how horrible the alternative is, and sure Nader could never win the electoral college, but giving Bush four more years could destroy Our country. Young Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Apr 20, 2004, 11:48 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	Leaving Our borders wide-open, going to War with a Muslim country using a Lie, then joking about the Lie, fully backing Israel's pull-out that is seen as a Joke by Muslims because of the way it is being done, these are things that don't help. Jordan's King, one of Our best allies is fed Up, Mubarek says Bush has created 100 Bin Ladens & that Muslims hate America more now than Ever...but somehow you guys think that this is progress? Young Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Apr 20, 2004, 11:49 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Sean former overlord Location: New York Posts: 2,383	You guys all amaze me. You have such absolute opinions about Bush, (he's evil/he's not a nutcase), and yet you provide no debate, no discussion. I sometimes wonder if you just come here to post your agenda over and over like a broken record. So it goes

Apr 20, 2004, 11:52 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Sean former overlord Location: New York Posts: 2,383	..why should you provide a good argument, if someone doesn't? Is that logical? I don't think so. Raise the bar please. So it goes

Apr 21, 2004, 12:01 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	Do any of You disagree that if Bush wins the Election, that he will no longer have to worry about public perception? Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Apr 20, 2004, 11:11 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Giancarlo Guest Posts: n/a	Evil this, evil that. Evil this, evil that. You aren't republican. Bush is the best option to maintain this country, Kerry or Nader is not. They are beyond nutcases.

Apr 20, 2004, 11:27 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
dave654 Guest Posts: n/a	As bad as things are G is right again. W is the lesser of the three evils. It is a sad commentary of the state of our Republic when I make this statement. Fortunately, W is doing the right thing in the war on terror despite all the comments to stating otherwise.

Apr 20, 2004, 11:49 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Giancarlo Guest Posts: n/a	This is more propoganda and words... have anything else to say?

Apr 21, 2004, 02:49 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
argonak Molten Ash Location: Kansas City Posts: 105	scariest thing about the next election (in my opinion) is that if bush loses, we'll get kerry, who i don't feel has the right sort of attitude to deal with the real world. but if we keep bush (disregarding any actions he may or may not take and their positive/negative effects) we'll most likely have Hilary running for president against an unkown republican candiate (or worse Cheney). An extremely charismatic woman who blew into New York like a spring wind and won an election with amazing ease, who is accomplished, intteligent, and (i'm afraid this is merely another opinion based on observations) the scariest person I know of and a power mad politician willing to do anything to get her way. i'd take DEAN over hillary any day of the weak as our commander in chief, that woman just scares me.

Apr 21, 2004, 03:02 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
dave654 Guest Posts: n/a	I'd take Stalin over Hillery.

Apr 21, 2004, 03:34 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
PeterWolf Guest Posts: n/a	You people all amaze me, happily prepared to choose the least evil. Whatever happened to striving for the best? How many of you think you are free? You certainly don't appear to be, instead you appear to be slaves to the parties and their advertising budgets and the choice of least evil offered to you. Not one of you appears to consider the idea of doing anything, but accepting a candidate from a party. Hell, I'd vote Nader if for no other reason than to attempt to reclaim something precious that seems to have been lost, Independence.

Apr 21, 2004, 04:04 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
Giancarlo Guest Posts: n/a	Nader is a joke and a environut. To vote for him would be totally against my beliefs.

Apr 21, 2004, 04:11 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
commonsense Igneous Magma Posts: 335	One huge successful outcome of the War in Iraq is we can now count among our new allies in the middle-east one who, after decades of opposition is now strongly by our side: Mommar Khadafi. See. Stability and peace in the region complementing U.S. interests is at hand. (excuse me while I bust-out laughing) The Porcupine is a great symbol. READ THOMAS PAINE, "RIGHTS OF MAN" TO A KID

Apr 22, 2004, 12:10 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
lostkiwi Molten Ash Posts: 60	Bush evil? No, Misguided maybe, bad for anyone who appreciates liberty defiantly, but I wouldn't go so far as evil. Bush, Kerry, Nader? There are 150 other people running for President, choose one. You're Candidate may not win but there are people paying attention, people that have a chance of changing policy in this country. Send a message, vote your conscience.

Apr 22, 2004, 12:25 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
dave654 Guest Posts: n/a	I heard the other day that Jesse Ventura is considering running for president in '08. He specifically want to bring forth the matter of taxation. He, like me, supports the national sales tax over the current system of taxing income. I may just get directly involved in campaigning next election cycle.

Apr 22, 2004, 02:33 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	whose his running mate? Randy "The Macho Man" Savage...gotta have a Tag team partner, Kerry do really good to figure that Out soon. Bush needs to do himself a favor & lock himself in a closet until Nov 1st, when they announce the Bin Laden capture. "Me & the President Kozumi of Japan, oops I mean PM Kozumi were having dinner...Later he told me that his Favorite movie was High Noon, he said ""You Like Cooper"", Took me quite awhile to figure out what he meant, I thought he was asking a question, but he was saying that I was like Cooper." Young Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Apr 22, 2004, 07:03 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,335	I can't wait till november, and Bush is re-elected, 4 years of hysterics from the left. Seriously, I am looking forward to that. I also fear someone doing something drastic about that too... Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?