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This topic in Politics & Government is about Political Party Affiliation.

View Poll Results: What political party are you a member?
Republican 8 25.81%
Democratic 6 19.35%
Libertarian 7 22.58%
Green 2 6.45%
Natural Law 0 0%
Constitution 1 3.23%
Socialist 1 3.23%
Independent 2 6.45%
Other 4 12.90%
Voters: 31. You may not vote

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Old Apr 19, 2004, 04:37 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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This poll is in response to catch 22's post that this site has an extra number of Libertarians than is usual. Lets find out!
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Old Apr 19, 2004, 04:48 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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good idea mouser now we shall truly see the make up of volconvo.


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Old Apr 19, 2004, 04:51 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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I'm Canadian I had to pick other because none of my parties were on there


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Old Apr 19, 2004, 04:56 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I don't know that I'm a member of any party, but for the first time I registered as a Democrat in order to vote for Kucinich. Folks told me to compromise and vote for a Democrat. There was only one experienced Democrat running, and that was Kucinich.

I voted for Nader last time, but never joined the Green Party.
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Old Apr 19, 2004, 05:04 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I'm primarily a green but I also agree with the socialist party on a lot of issues as well.


When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, militarism and economic exploitation are incapable of being conquered
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Old Apr 19, 2004, 06:11 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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I'm an independant. I vote for whichever candidate/party is going to pick my pocket the least, and suborn my rights the least. I suppose you could say my votes tend to be AGAINST the other guy. Whenever possible I vote libertarian. My leanings are Libertarian and the Constitutionalist party. I'm a staunch old fashioned Classical Liberal.
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Old Apr 19, 2004, 06:16 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Old Apr 19, 2004, 06:19 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by dave654,
Whenever possible I vote libertarian. My leanings are Libertarian and the Constitutionalist party. I'm a staunch old fashioned Classical Liberal.
Am I the only one noticing an apparent contradiction here? Or dave is your definition of "classical liberal" obscure?


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Old Apr 19, 2004, 06:27 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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classic liberals are pro-freedoms. Sounds right to me.
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 11:22 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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With 13 votes in it looks pretty even!
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 11:47 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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If you're not a Libertarian, you're a socialist.


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Old Apr 20, 2004, 11:59 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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I guess I have to go with "Other" since I dont know.


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Old Apr 20, 2004, 02:26 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by commonsense,
If you're not a Libertarian, you're a socialist.
I would have to disagree. I would say you just haven't smelled the coffee yet. Maybe you support one or the other because you believe what they say - not realizing what they do.
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 02:47 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by PatrickHenry,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PatrickHenry,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-dave654,
  Whenever possible I vote libertarian.  My leanings are Libertarian and the Constitutionalist party.  I'm a staunch old fashioned Classical Liberal.
Am I the only one noticing an apparent contradiction here? Or dave is your definition of "classical liberal" obscure?[/b][/quote]

Explain the contradiction you see? I do not see one. classic liberals would support freemarket in its purest sense. That can only be enjoyed with libertarian philosophies of De-regulation.


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Old Apr 20, 2004, 02:56 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by RightThinker,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RightThinker,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-PatrickHenry,

Am I the only one noticing an apparent contradiction here? Or dave is your definition of "classical liberal" obscure?
Explain the contradiction you see? I do not see one. classic liberals would support freemarket in its purest sense. That can only be enjoyed with libertarian philosophies of De-regulation.[/b][/quote]
Agreed if deregulation can be accompanied by a return to constitutional rule. Re: the term "classical liberal", will you forgive me if I plead ignorance of it's amplified meaning. That was the reason for the question mark, it wasn't a challenge...


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Old Apr 20, 2004, 03:07 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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I am a "member" of no party. I vote on the platforms presented by the individual parties and canidates running for each election. I believe belonging to a party is the same as belonging to one form of prejudice over another. Party membership encourages blind faith in the party, which leads to bad intent and agenda, as the voters still vote with party loyalty, though the party becomes more and more self serviant to their own agenda, and not America overall.

For this election, I will vote libertarian, constitutionalist, or Green depending on who is the highest in the poles come election time.


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Old Apr 20, 2004, 07:59 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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PH. The founding fathers were Classical Liberals. Contemporary Liberalism has little to do with the original meaning, IMO.
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 08:01 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Osborn. I notice you would vote green party, which you ranked with the Libertarian and Constitutionalist Parties. I would encourage you to go to the Green's website and read what they espouse. You seem to be somewhat freedom oriented and I think you will not like what you read about the greens.
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Old Apr 20, 2004, 08:53 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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What I meant by that was, if you're not a Libertarian, you advocate what the Reps and Dems advocate, which is taxing and redistributing.
Many of Bush's socialist policies, like his Medicare Prescription Drug Plan, pretends to "aid needy retirees" but was actually skillfully crafted to be "corporate welfare" by relieving big employers of overhead in honoring their retirement med benefit contracts with employees, and directly a boon to the drug industry.
The Dems would call the same retirees who managed to save a little bit over their lifetimes "rich" by looking at their bank accounts, increasing their taxes on capital gains so that they could have bought their drugs in the first place, then take that tax money, pay bureaucrats to build slums and invite people in to fill them and destroy the lives of their children by facilitating irresponsible behavior, in exchange for their votes.


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Old Apr 22, 2004, 01:30 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Dave 654 said: Osborn. I notice you would vote green party, which you ranked with the Libertarian and Constitutionalist Parties. I would encourage you to go to the Green's website and read what they espouse. You seem to be somewhat freedom oriented and I think you will not like what you read about the greens.

I say: Dave, I have looked at their platform, and canidates, but I would still choose a green over a major party (rep/dem) just because they are addressing issues that the major parties won't. My first choice this year is libertarian, then constitutionalist, then green in that order. Whomever has the best showing at the polls before I go vote, out of those three, that is who I will vote for.

I want nothing more than to see Russo or Nolan or Badnarik in the race, but they have a lot of work to do to bring the American Public up to speed on the importance of their vote this year. I have been doing what I can to call peoples attention to their sites, but still a long way to go for National support.


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