The 2004 election was stolen in Ohio

[Zhavric]

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...ction_stolen/1

J Kenneth Blackwell... the J stands for "Judas".

Basically, whatever the Repubs could think of to do in order the screw over the vote in THE swing state, they did... and they've (so far) gotten away with it.

Kerry won in Ohio and should be president.

[PatrickHenry]

No kidding...we have had this discussion before: FRAUD!
For those who believe FRAUD in the vote was not "probable"
diebold promises, delivers e-voting fraud
And my favorite, the poll I made:
Was the 2004 Election Stolen?

But why are we still talking about it in the summer of 2006? Maybe we can stop it from happening over and over? Riight....

[Clarence]

I'm here in Ohio. I've felt this way but honestly I've no proof that the elections were stolen. Wanna know why there's no proof? Because most people in Ohio don't know or don't care about the conflict of interest between the secretary of the treasury and his interest in Diebold. Including my otherwise rational dear old dad...

...He'll be governor of the state this time next year...

[Zhavric]

Did either of you bother to click on the link? It's from Rolling Stone magazine and is dated June 1st 2006. We're still talking about it because someone STOLE THE censored PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

[Rave7pt0]

Do something about it Zhav. Build a plan, build a team, and do something.

[Nono]

Like Pat, gr8ful and others, I've often said on Volconvo that there's something a trifle odd about what happened in Ohio and that the US media & public showed unseemly haste in putting that one behind them (while blasting around the world on the subject of "democracy").

The significant thing about the Rolling Stone article is that it shows the events in Ohio are no longer a taboo subject.

But first things first. Just because the governor of Florida is the president's brother (and their dad used to be pres ... I mean it beggars belief) doesn't mean the facts surrounding the 2000 election should remain taboo.

[gr8fuldaniel]

This Rolling Stone Article has irrefutable evidence that the Presidential election of 2004 was stolen.
We deserve an investigation and arrests and removal of the impostors from our White House.

It should be initiated before November.

Note: Robert Kennedy Jr. will have Greg Palast next Saturday, (June 10th), on Air America's 'Ring of Fire' on the shoplifting of the last election & and the next one.

Greg Palast has done investigations of the 2000 and 2004 anomalies.

Read todays Greg Palast article:
How They Stole Ohio
And the GOP 4-step Recipe to 'Blackwell' the USA in 2008
Abracadabra: Three million votes vanish

More on the election fraud in his book due out next tuesday.

I want to comment on the Rolling Stone article after Ive finished reading it. Its pretty long 4 pages. I have a couple of real world things to do first. C ya then!

[brien]

Quote by: Zhavric http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...ction_stolen/1 J Kenneth Blackwell... the J stands for "Judas". Basically, whatever the Repubs could think of to do in order the screw over the vote in THE swing state, they did... and they've (so far) gotten away with it. Kerry won in Ohio and should be president.

You act if this is something new?????? You didn't strike me as being so historically naiive, Zhavric.

See:http://rense.com/general57/ovoer62.htm

From the above source:
In 1960, the Democrat Party Convention was in Los Angeles. John F. Kennedy was a realist. He knew that in a contest, Convention delegates had to be paid. Brother Bobby was in charge of "The Boiler Room Women". They had color coded cards indicating how the various delegates could be bought. With hookers, with cash, with guarantees of jobs in the new Adminstration.

Obstructing the schemes of their father, Joseph P. Kennedy, was Lyndon B. Johnson who wanted to be slated as the Vice President candidate. The Kennedys did not trust him. He summoned them to his hotel room. If he is not made the v.p. candidate, he said, he was going public with the specifics of the Kennedy Family and their Nazi connections.

[See, for example, "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin. The day before JFK was assassinated, LBJ told his mistress that "after tomorrow, that bastard Kennedy was not going to insult me anymore". See, "Overthrow", Part 42. By 1969, JFK and Bobby Kennedy having been assassinated, and in 1964, brother Teddy having been a survivor, thereafter with a backbrace, of a sabotaged plane crash---Teddy was framed for the drowning, in Teddy's car falling into the drink, of one of "The Boiler Room Women", Mary Jo Kopecne, at Chappaquiddick. ]

The 1960 Election JFK versus Richard M. Nixon hung on the essential Electoral College vote of Illinois. Old Man Kennedy, through Chicago mobsters and Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley, arranged eight thousand fake paper ballots. JFK became the national "winner".

After the 1963 assassination of President Kennedy, every occupant and tne resident of the Oval Office thereafter was part of the cover-up.

LBJ as mentioned, And that followed by Nixon who met with the murder-conspirators, prior to the bloody deed, at the mansion of a Texas oil tycoon. As President, Nixon was replaced, without an election upon his resignation in 1974, by Gerald Ford, who earlier had been a member of the Warren Commission proclaiming a "lone assassin" killed JFK. Ford's unelected but appointed Vice President was Nelson A. Rockefeller, who had been confronted by JFK's plan, scrapped by his murder, of issuing genuine U.S. paper money, not Federal Reserve Notes. Jimmy Carter continued the whitewash.

As California Governor Ronald W. Reagan refused to permit the extradiction of a key witness to the JFK Aassaintion probe in New Orleans by District Attorney Jim Garrison. Reagan's Vice President, Daddy Bush, was implicated in the JFK murder cover up. [See FBI George H.W. Bush document, attached to series, "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush", www.skolnicksreport.com ]

The Big Fix in the year 2000 Presidential alleged "Election" was patterned, almost identically, to the corrupted election of 1876. The book "1876" by Gore Vidal was re-issued in paperback in the Spring of 2000.

In 1876, Samuel Tilden won the popular vote. The Electoral Vote was corrupted by way of the FLORIDA Election Board officials along with the corrupting of the high court in Washington and Congress. Troops blocked the street so that Tilden was prevented from approaching the Inaugural Stand. Thereafter, the election thief, Rutherford B. Hayes was called Rutherfraud. And we, similarly, call George W. Bush, simply, Bushfraud. LikeTilden in 1876, Albert Gore, Jr. was the duly elected President NOT inaugurated.Gore never conceded defeat, merely stating that he is permitting Bush to occupy the White House.

The recount of the Florida ballots as to Gore, was stopped by corrupting, among others, various South Florida DEMOCRAT Party officials. And after that, corrupting "The Gang of Five", the 5-Judge majority on the U.S. Supreme Court sparkplugged by Associate Justice Antonin Scalia, a latter-day Fascist, known for his arrogance as a :"Go To Hell" Judge.
[See, "Coca-Cola, CIA, and the Courts", part 9, www.skolnicksreport.com ]

The Big Fix for the year 2004 Presidential Election was put together four or more years prior to 2004.

The deal was started at least with Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of convenience of Senator John F. Kerry (D., Mass.) She has been a vicious, ultra-right wing long-time Republican, more accurately simply described as a Fascist, rule by the Iron Fist. Her first husband of convenience was U.S. Senator John Heinz (R., Penn.) Senator Heinz should have known better not to ask questions of fellow U.S. Senator Arlen Specter (R., Penn.) Specter had been part of the Warren Commission Staff and postulated the ridiculous idea that one magic bullet, Warren Commission Exhibit 399, had gone through Governor Connolly and then through President Kenndy. The bullet, in perfect pristine condition was apparently "found" on a hospital cart by CIA Dallas (formerly Chicago) Mobster Jack Ruby.

Wags claim that the establishment continues to assert that the bullet is still circling the planet, going through every political assassination victim, shot there by the latest "lone assassin".

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A good weekend discussion though. Have fun :)

[Saint Vern]

Quote by: Zhavric Did either of you bother to click on the link? It's from Rolling Stone magazine and is dated June 1st 2006. We're still talking about it because someone STOLE THE censored PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

What a crock.

[Saint Vern]

Quote by: brien The recount of the Florida ballots as to Gore, was stopped by corrupting, among others, various South Florida DEMOCRAT Party officials. And after that, corrupting "The Gang of Five"

Not true. Not in the least. The Albore people wanted to bend the standard of what is a vote district by district (in such a way as would benefit their candidate, of course). The Supremes correctly pointed out that the US Constitution says that the states have authority to govern their voting, and that what is law when the vote happens is law a day or more later when someone is pouting about having lost. Thus if the losing side wanted to "recount" the votes they had to do it all over the state, and they had to use the standard that already was in place. Therefore the desire to invent votes for Gore was a non-starter, and the voters got their man: President George W Bush.

You lost. Get over it.

:-D

[Apeman81]

Blah, blah, blaaaah, blah, blah.

What's next? Another rehash of Florida 2000?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Ya know, that didn't fly in 2000, and it didn't fly in 2004, bringing this up is silly, and shows the depths of Denial you guys have.

Bush is President, hate it or love it, that's that. Period. Anything else is what we like to call "Wishful thinking"

Personally I would never again vote for a Bush, he's really stung me on a number of issues, namely Immigration, spending, and the Kello case has not yet been touched.

That being said, I would never induldge in such silliness. It's not healthy, get over it.

[Chris]

But V, You got to admit, the numbers came really REALLY close in OH. Close enough to doubt the veracity of the results. And also the problems with the machines (Diebold) have been known and out in the air for years.

Sounds a bit dodgy to me.

[Samildanach]

Do something about it Zhav. Build a plan, build a team, and do something.

what do you think hes doing? The problem with you americans is unless it affects you directly and cuts into YOUR lifestyle you tend to sit on the bench and wath the game get played instead of joining in. Instead of the above statement, you should be saying, where do I join up?

[Nono]

Quote by: Vicchio Ya know, that didn't fly in 2000, and it didn't fly in 2004.

Are we an aeronautical engineer now, V?

Whole thing's been buzzing around for the past six years as far as many people are concerned.

[Osborn F Enready]

If we don't fix the voting system soon, you won't have to worry about voting anymore, since the courts will vote for you.

Won't have to bitch about a do nothing congress, since there won't be anymore poser congress.

Won't have to complain about taxes taking all your spending money anymore, since you won't have any spending money anymore.

Won't have to worry about oppressive government anymore, since that is all that will exist, and thinking about liberty or talking about it, will cost you credits and food from your national debit account.

Welcome to 1984, and it only took until 2006.

The world will end in 5 minutes, details in one hour. Thanks for watching corporate broadcasting, buh-bye!

[Osborn F Enready]

The Ohio Vote was stolen, much like Floridas.

You are right though Vic, Bush won, twice, thanks to Diebold, the corporate media, and placed poll workers who had no clue, as designed by the major parties.

How many millions will the next election cost? How much profit did big oil make this year.... start looking there.....

[shield772]

Quote by: Zhavric Did either of you bother to click on the link? It's from Rolling Stone magazine and is dated June 1st 2006. We're still talking about it because someone STOLE THE censored PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

both parties commit election fraud, how about the DNC stealing the 1960 presidential election putting Kennedy in office, this is but one shining example, they both do it the RNC did it better this time please move on.

[Saint Vern]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready The Ohio Vote was stolen, much like Floridas.

Uh...not quite. The Demon-rats' attempt to steal FL did not succeed, and OH was legitimate in 2004.

[Osborn F Enready]

I live in Ohio Vern, and I know just from my own experiences combined with friends and family that there were volumous errors in Ohio.

Regardless of what "party" has players in the pot, the problem should be addressed and fixed, not covered up and ruled on in court.

Care to shed any info on what gives you this viewpoint?

My viewpoints are already well documented in most threads on this topic, and there are many about the last two national presidential elections, the fraud, and the STILL ongoing investigation into Ohio republicans funneling money to the Bush campaign ILLEGALLY.

Please do share..... :rolleyes: