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Old Apr 15, 2004, 06:26 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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When one see the current United States Director of the CIA one is astonished by the striking similarity between Mr. George Tenet and the World War II German equivalent, Herman Goering. While Goering was a distinguished war hero the same certainly cannot be said about George Tenet. The only similarity is their waste size.

Recently, the Washington Post published an article about the Senate committee investigating the faulty Iraqi intelligence. This article points out that Tenet's inferior leadership along with his rogue employees fattened up the clandestine intelligence about Iraq's threat.

I know my view is subjective, however, after reviewing the proceedings from the Senate Select Committe one quickly notices a fatal flaw that often occurs during U.S. committee hearings.

There was one vital question not asked of Mr. Tenet because the committe feared a backlash from the American people. As the facts show, the CIA pumped up the report about Iraq's threat.

So, why did the CIA outright fail and refuse to pump up the "real" threat, Mr. Bin Laden, whom already previously tried to destroy the WTC in 1993 with his foreign agents in the United States?

If Tenet was doing his job why were the illegal alien Arab hijackers not arrested and deported?

It was reported that Israel's intelligence was over zealous in stating Iraq's threat. Does Mr. Tenet accept without question information from rogue nations?

These issues have been answered by a more reliable clandestine organization: Israel had nothing to benefit by going after bin Laden, but did with Iraq. This was signed and sealed on April 14, 2004 when Bush publicly praised Sharon's terrorist army for it's violence in that Israel can keep some "illegal" settlements. By the U.S. Congress in stealing tens of billions of American tax dollars for Israel while 15 million Americans remain unemployed. By Bush, violating the fundamental laws of the United States, that of impartiality, yet, proudly props Israel's flag next to the American flag, a clear sign of partiality.

No flag stands next to the American flag.

Tenet, like Bush and other Republicans are anti-nationalist. He, like the others, is not concerned about America's security, rather only his fat paycheck.

Mr. Tenet make be good at making sloppy-joes, but the CIA's organization under him is a complete failure. The object is to prevent terrorist attacks, prevent bad information so as to prevent loss of life, not read about them. Clearly, the Senate should oust this fat boy from Greece and install an American who can do the job. As we all know George Tenet is no American, but a Greek foreigner.

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Old Apr 15, 2004, 06:42 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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What tribe are you from? Oneida, Tuscarowa, Okinichee, or Siouan? Closing the borders doesn't work (there's a way to end unemployment - make all the unemployed border guards). And isolation probably won't work since it didn't b4 WW2. And as far as Tenet goes, the CIA is not a domestic intelligence agency. They don't have arrest powers and a "wall" separated the CIA from law enforcement. You don't remember Watergate, do you? Nixon was a good reason to separate the CIA and domestic law enforcement. Of course, John Dean (Nixon's chief of staff) writes in his new book about the paranoia of the W boys and how it is even worse than Nixon's. Hate to think how bad it will be when history repeats itself on this one. God save us from ourselves.
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Old Apr 15, 2004, 06:47 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Don't get outraged, get cynical.

McGehee came out strongly after a distinguished CIA career:
Ralph McGehee, a CIA officer in the Far East Division, details a career in the CIA that spanned from 1953 to 1977 and included operations in the Philippines, Taiwan, Thailand, and Vietnam. In Taiwan he served as the CIA liaison officer for KMT intelligence services. While in Thailand he worked with Thai counterinsurgency forces to help stem the Communist threat, and during the Vietnam War he served in Saigon supervising case officers. He became depressed by CIA activities in Vietnam, and returned to Thailand as deputy chief of the anti-Communist Party operations branch. An internal political fight with Theodore Shackley resulted in his reassignment out of the Far East Division. He retired four years later and was awarded the Career Intelligence Medal. Ironically, the citation read aloud at the ceremony described his courageous service in Malaysia, a country he had never been in. from: http://www.namebase.org/sources/BT.html

He says the Company can't be reformed but must be disbanded.

From his book, Deadly Deceits:
'The CIA is not now nor has it ever been a central intelligence agency. It is the covert action arm of the president's foreign policy advisers. In that capacity it overthrows or supports foreign governments while reporting 'intelligence' justifying those activities. It shapes its intelligence, even in such critical areas as Soviet nuclear weapon capability, to support presidential policy. Disinformation is a large part of its covert action responsibility, and the American people are the primary target audience of its lies.' Ralph W. McGehee


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Old Apr 15, 2004, 07:01 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Your tribial argument is a circular argument and has no meaning.

As far as your border statements, that is your opinion.

The American people are going to close the borders once and for all and we will pass laws to deport every foreigner that entered this country since 1965 both legal and of course illegal. They do not belong here, they are not wanted here.

We will start with the fat Greek Mr. Tenet and the Austrian sausage man, Mr. Schwarzenegger.
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Old Apr 15, 2004, 07:11 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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When are you blasting the Statue of Liberty? Or are you getting ready to sandblast the quote on her base about poor, tired, huddled masses?
And the argument is not circular. Only Native Americans aren't something- American. Let's make the cut off date 1607. Sound like a plan?
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Old Apr 15, 2004, 07:21 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (NewJerseyAttack,)

The American people are going to close the borders once and for all and we will pass laws to deport every foreigner that entered this country since 1965 both legal and of course illegal. They do not belong here, they are not wanted here.

We will start with the fat Greek Mr. Tenet and the Austrian sausage man, Mr. Schwarzenegger.
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Are you for real or just trying for a firestorm of abuse? You will find very few members of this forum to support your distasteful xenophobia.

Maybe you are a prankster...


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Old Apr 15, 2004, 07:37 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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If you reference one of the United States's symbols it may be advisable to learn what it stands for. The short article below may provide some englightenment.
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Liberty's Torch Has A Blackout

"The truth is always stronger than the lie" some writer once wrote.

The Statue of Liberty was a gift from France inspired by Edouard Rene Lefebvre de Laboulaye. It was to be “a great monument as a lasting memorial to independence…” and “... human liberty.” Like the Eiffel Tower which was built specifically to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the French Revolution so to was the Statue of Liberty built specifically to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the American Revolutionary War. In no way shape or form does it represent or is suggestive of free, mass and uncontrolled immigration to the U.S. On the contrary, when a person viewed the statue it was to inspire or remind this person to seek liberty in that person’s own country not to be a coward or a parasite. The statue is in no way shape or form part of the Ellis Island clique. The French sculpture chose New York, that is, Bedloe’s Island, because of the view of the island from Brooklyn and Manhattan.

The Statue of Liberty should remind everyone of the War for Independence in 1776, of those 13 colonies that participated and of the forefathers that sacrificed everything including their lives. It should remind everyone of the millions of Americans who lost their lives on the battlefields in the so many wars both at home and abroad. That the U.S. has a democracy not a king, queen or dictator and that the Americans and only Americans have and stand for freedom and liberty on this earth. It was also intended to show that the French government believed in the same principles but the French seem to have difficulty keeping their part as consistent as the U.S. If any other country stands for freedom and liberty so much the better but this fact is independent of Miss. Liberty.

But, there are certain corrupt aspects and prominent personalities in America, who, by the use of propaganda, try to implant into the masses' brain the diabolical lie that the Statue of Liberty means free and mass immigration for anyone. Never was such a wicked idea more enthusiastically pursued as now as can be seen by the passage of congressional immigration bills. One hears nonsense phrases like the statue has "come to mean" this or that. That phrase is so meaningless that one can only shudder. It is time, high time that this blackout of lies be uprooted and stopped and Liberty's torch lighted once again with the truth.

The U.S. immigration problem can never be achieved by half-hearted measures - that is using feebly designed programs as is now in practice. Evaluation of any of these programs shows that the immigration problem has increased not decreased. Only a ruthless and completely devoted program will solve the problem. And no program is too ruthless to preserve our country and Miss Liberty from this outside poison.

In 1903 a poem, The New Colossus, by the Jew Emma Lazarus was "added" to the pedestal on a bronze tablet without publicity. Do you think we Americans are going to propose a toast to this poem? Not likely. Do you think us Americans as agitators to want the original meaning restored as intended by the designer and the falsification of this Jewish riddle removed? We Americans are not interested in meaningless riddles. We prefer the garbage crew to haul out this bronze tablet.

This is the source of the Statue of Liberty's problem today. The Jews paid somebody off to get this propaganda put on the pedestal. This clever but false fabrication is disrespectful, debasing and damaging to the statue and the American people.

Bartholdi, the creator of the Statue of Liberty, had this to say about it's meaning: "I will try to glorify the Republic and Liberty over there, in the hope that someday I will find it again here (France)."

The Statue of Liberty is for "ALL" Americans not just a Jewish clique in New York City.

"The truth is always stronger than the lie."
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Old Apr 15, 2004, 07:51 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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The reason the statue stands in the Harbor is so she could show her light of freedom to the world that exists behind Lady Liberty's back. Close the borders and deport as you propose and her raison d'etre ceases. Might as well blow it up and sell the scrap or sell her to Disney - at least they could make some money from her.
The base upon which she rests was not part of the French gift. However, the words are carved there and that's what we say we offer in the USA. If not, sandblast off the words - they will then have no meaning so why keep them. And thanks for enlightening me as to where they come from.
That does not mean that if your proposal were to come about, the lady should come down. And all us immigrants can go back to where we came from. The Indians say they'll turn out the lights.
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Old Apr 15, 2004, 10:24 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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What you find distasteful is your business.

What I find unpleasant and anti-American is my business.

And I am working very hard to put an end to the massive, uncontrolled immigration into this country especially for the purpose of taking jobs. We Americans initially lose and lose and lose until finally we win.
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Old Apr 15, 2004, 10:36 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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In short, what has happened is that the Jews have hijacked the Statue of Liberty. The Jewish bronze plaque attached to the statue is their attempt to claim the U.S. as theirs because as you know the Jews have no country of their own. That is why the propaganda of associating the statue with Ellis Island has permeated through the liberal media.

Believe what man may, I prefer the truth and view the Statue of Liberty as the meaning it's builder, Edouard Rene Lefebvre de Laboulaye, meant it for: "memorial to (our) independence", certainly not for foreigner sewer rats entering this counrty.
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Old Apr 15, 2004, 10:38 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (NewJerseyAttack,)
If you reference one of the United States's symbols it may be advisable to learn what it stands for. The short article below may provide some englightenment.
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Liberty's Torch Has A Blackout

The Statue of Liberty is for "ALL" Americans not just a Jewish clique in New York City.

"The truth is always stronger than the lie."
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Unless you wrote this yourself, this forum deserves a reference, NJAttack.


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Old Apr 15, 2004, 10:42 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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That's correct, I am the author written about a year ago.

Only the quote: "The truth is stronger than the lie" which is a famous and well known quote, is not mine.
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