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tman_ndsu08 · May 2, 2006, 07:41 pm

Time exists only in our minds.

Lullaby Chainer · May 2, 2006, 07:51 pm

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Time exists only in our minds.

Do you mean to say everything would just stop if we weren't here? From our perspective, yes. But from the perspective of existence, no.

Yes, we have to perceive it. But that doesn't mean it isn't happening. You couldn't type this without time.

Morgan_Freeman · May 2, 2006, 08:56 pm

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Stop playing games, please :-)

Stop talking nonsense.

Morgan_Freeman · May 2, 2006, 08:58 pm

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Yes, we have to perceive it. But that doesn't mean it isn't happening.

We have no basis for saying anything happens unless we percieve it.

Technosoul · May 2, 2006, 09:51 pm

Sorry folks, your time has run out and so no more debating this topic, unless you think time is real and did not run out.

Again, we can percieve with out eyes the effects of time, as growth, as age, as change. Now man did invent the clocks, which by the way do not even represent real time - because time changes depending on how close the earth is to the sun. A day can have more hours in it during one season then during another season (summer-winter). And the location of earth can alter the appearence of time, long Alaskan nights are not experienced here in L.A. California. If you were on Mars time would be different then our earth-time - because of the distance of its total orbit.

Plant life is partly regulated by temperature, during spring time things warm up and so plants start to grow, and in the cooling of fall some plants die or shed their folage. We can fake out a seed by growing tomatos in a greenhouse where we regulate the temperature. So "normal time" would not influence the tomato - as we might otherwise percieve it in a natual surrounding outside.

However the concept of time greatly impacted our concepts of math relative to our economy.

They had a big debate about what calendar to use, the moon calendar or the sun calendar. That was reported biblically as a "war between the children of darkness and the children of light" - being the moon and stars were used by the night people and the sun was used by the day people.

Using the moon cycles we could detemine the ebb and flow of tides which was important to the fishermen, and women used it also for birth control. The sun calendar however was yearly instead of monthy and so you could keep track of the seasons - when to plant seeds - when to herd sheep to the highlands, and so that was important to the famers.

The city folks used a calendar to determine when to have a important religious celibration. Basically when it was time of have a big church party. When to pay taxes (aka - donations).

In the moon calendar you had a base of 5 and a complete unit was 10.
In the sun calendar the base is 6 and the total unit was a total of 12.

Sun - a dozen eggs or 12 diciples - 12 months in a year. 12 objects in our solar system.

The moon calendar gave us our numbering system where we have 1-10, the 10 would be a complete unit, and so you would start over with 11-20, and so forth. So our money is 1 dollar and 5 -10 - 20 - 50 - 100. Instead of having a 6 dollar bill and a 12 dollar bill.

So we in effect ended up with two systems of keeping track of things - depending on what you are keeping track of.

You get paid so much for each hour worked or each day worked, so "time is money" and so to say that "time is not tangable" is to say that all your money is "unreal" also - and that your work was just to get your hands on some imaginary "concept" represented by a thin "cheap" peice of paper.
Hmmm?

But we live by those imaginary concepts, make and keep appointments by them, and make plans for the birthing of the next baby by that "imaginary" time schedule. It is a concept of organization and it gives support of the math which we use to determine other theories and concpets.

If we lost our knowledge about the concepts of time our whole system of activity would crumble into chaos and non-conformity - it is urgent we comprehend that least we experience the end of time which is the end of our conceptual world as we now know and experience it.

eh?

Rainbow · May 2, 2006, 09:58 pm

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Stop talking nonsense.

You state you never heard about Friction ?!

I take it as a horrible lack of the basic knowledge in faculty of physics. Even "Social Studies" cover that part, as well. The Friction is one of the fundamental notions in physics, like the Addition - that is one of the basic operations in arithmetic (!)

P.S.
You are joking, are not you ? :-)

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Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	Sorry folks, your time has run out and so no more debating this topic, unless you think time is real and did not run out. Again, we can percieve with out eyes the effects of time, as growth, as age, as change. Now man did invent the clocks, which by the way do not even represent real time - because time changes depending on how close the earth is to the sun. A day can have more hours in it during one season then during another season (summer-winter). And the location of earth can alter the appearence of time, long Alaskan nights are not experienced here in L.A. California. If you were on Mars time would be different then our earth-time - because of the distance of its total orbit. Plant life is partly regulated by temperature, during spring time things warm up and so plants start to grow, and in the cooling of fall some plants die or shed their folage. We can fake out a seed by growing tomatos in a greenhouse where we regulate the temperature. So "normal time" would not influence the tomato - as we might otherwise percieve it in a natual surrounding outside. However the concept of time greatly impacted our concepts of math relative to our economy. They had a big debate about what calendar to use, the moon calendar or the sun calendar. That was reported biblically as a "war between the children of darkness and the children of light" - being the moon and stars were used by the night people and the sun was used by the day people. Using the moon cycles we could detemine the ebb and flow of tides which was important to the fishermen, and women used it also for birth control. The sun calendar however was yearly instead of monthy and so you could keep track of the seasons - when to plant seeds - when to herd sheep to the highlands, and so that was important to the famers. The city folks used a calendar to determine when to have a important religious celibration. Basically when it was time of have a big church party. When to pay taxes (aka - donations). In the moon calendar you had a base of 5 and a complete unit was 10. In the sun calendar the base is 6 and the total unit was a total of 12. Sun - a dozen eggs or 12 diciples - 12 months in a year. 12 objects in our solar system. The moon calendar gave us our numbering system where we have 1-10, the 10 would be a complete unit, and so you would start over with 11-20, and so forth. So our money is 1 dollar and 5 -10 - 20 - 50 - 100. Instead of having a 6 dollar bill and a 12 dollar bill. So we in effect ended up with two systems of keeping track of things - depending on what you are keeping track of. You get paid so much for each hour worked or each day worked, so "time is money" and so to say that "time is not tangable" is to say that all your money is "unreal" also - and that your work was just to get your hands on some imaginary "concept" represented by a thin "cheap" peice of paper. Hmmm? But we live by those imaginary concepts, make and keep appointments by them, and make plans for the birthing of the next baby by that "imaginary" time schedule. It is a concept of organization and it gives support of the math which we use to determine other theories and concpets. If we lost our knowledge about the concepts of time our whole system of activity would crumble into chaos and non-conformity - it is urgent we comprehend that least we experience the end of time which is the end of our conceptual world as we now know and experience it. eh?