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Section 8 · Sep 23, 2003, 07:24 pm

Now don't get me wrong, I don't care what religion you are. This is about the abolishment of the church not religion. I highly suggest you read this articles:

http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archi...m/whatis_7.html

and this

http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archi...m/whatis_9.html

Have fun
Shalom

Fallen Angel · Sep 23, 2003, 10:23 pm

All you are offering is another form of slavery, one that denies there is a God.

Section 8 · Sep 24, 2003, 12:09 am

FA did you even read the links that I posted? If you did you would realize that it would not stop the worship of G-D, or the conducting of different religions. Next time please read the links before posting.

Have Fun
Shalom

Fallen Angel · Sep 24, 2003, 01:43 am

No I did'nt bother to look at your links, because I don't believe you are offering true freedom of choice of religon, also out of curiosity, why do you post God as G-D, are you worried about something, or is it just a immature dig at Christians or other followers of a faith?

Geoff332 · Sep 24, 2003, 07:43 am

The Bible states that no-one can know the true name of God. In certain circles (primarily judeism) "God" is written as "G-d". It was very popular among Christian's in the middle ages and is maintained today, for a variety of reasons.

Fallen Angel · Sep 24, 2003, 08:02 am

Really, where did you find that out?

Section 8 · Sep 24, 2003, 10:16 am

FA I'm a practicing Reform Jew. Hopefully now you see that your comments about me offering a form of religios slavery were uneducated because of the fact that I'm a Jew so why would I offer a form of religious slavery. Now hopefully you can stop being stubborn and read the links.

Have Fun
Shalom

Geoff332 · Sep 24, 2003, 06:32 pm

I can't remember where I found that out. It's fairly common knowledge for anyone who has studied religious, Biblical or Christian history -- I tripped over it at some stage.

fedfem · Sep 24, 2003, 06:55 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Geoff332@09-24-2003 06:32 PM
I can't remember where I found that out. It's fairly common knowledge for anyone who has studied religious, Biblical or Christian history -- I tripped over it at some stage.

And we all know Fallen Angel has not done any of those. Sheeple are not encouraged to study.

Section 8 · Sep 24, 2003, 07:09 pm

FA, next time you post on a topic, make sure you read what the topic is discussing instead of making assumptions. I don't have a problem if you don't agree with me, but your posts in this topic have just been ignorant, and without any factual basis.

Have Fun
Shalom

Geoff332 · Sep 24, 2003, 07:21 pm

Don't answer here, but I am wondering if you could tell me what exactly being a "reformed jew" means (or at least means to you).

To keep things on one topic, I've started a new thread.

Thanks.

xm.bretton · Sep 24, 2003, 08:31 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Geoff332@09-24-2003 07:43 AM
The Bible states that no-one can know the true name of God. In certain circles (primarily judeism) "God" is written as "G-d". It was very popular among Christian's in the middle ages and is maintained today, for a variety of reasons.

its still awkward, because god isn't gods name. its a title.

as we are men, but you don't call us all men/man. you would call us by our name.

Geoff332 · Sep 24, 2003, 08:40 pm

I'm not saying I agree with the usage -- but that's a rough history behind it.

anti-flag5446 · Sep 28, 2003, 12:09 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Fallen Angel@09-23-2003 10:23 PM
All you are offering is another form of slavery, one that denies there is a God.

Umm... do you even know what you're talking about? Slavery? Aboloshing the church would do nothing but make the world more equal. Why were hundreds of Christians killed by the Romans? Religion. Why were hundreds of Jews killed during the holocaust and the crusades? Religion. If the church was abollished then we could have more equality, and this would certainly not be "slavery"

Fallen Angel · Sep 28, 2003, 12:27 am

Quote:

Originally posted by fedfem@09-24-2003 06:55 PM
And we all know Fallen Angel has not done any of those. Sheeple are not encouraged to study.

Sheeple, please I have studied alot of the bible, my favorite passage is dont remove your fathers boundry markers, in other words honour any good deeds or creations done by your ancestors.
Save your petty little comments for your godless friends fedfem.

Fallen Angel · Sep 28, 2003, 12:31 am

Quote:

Originally posted by anti-flag5446@09-28-2003 12:09 AM

Umm... do you even know what you're talking about? Slavery? Aboloshing the church would do nothing but make the world more equal. Why were hundreds of Christians killed by the Romans? Religion. Why were hundreds of Jews killed during the holocaust and the crusades? Religion. If the church was abollished then we could have more equality, and this would certainly not be "slavery"

Christianity, more than anything brought the abolution of Black slavery to bear in the 19th Century, do you know what you are talking about?

Section 8 · Sep 28, 2003, 12:41 am

Religion and politics are a very dangerous and volitile mix. Especially if nationalism is mixed in there. Church leaders teach young children to obey authority, and also instill conservative right-wing beliefs upon them. From day one they teach you how to think. If you abolished organized religion it would remove this indoctrination of people. This would allow many to form their own beliefs on G-D, instead of following what your parents and church leaders say. This would set the children who are forced to go to church by their parents free. It would free the youth's minds.

Have Fun
Shalom

fedfem · Sep 28, 2003, 01:25 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Fallen Angel@09-28-2003 12:31 AM
Christianity, more than anything brought the abolution of Black slavery to bear in the 19th Century, do you know what you are talking about?

Fallen, you need to read some history. Your pulpit mentality offers nothing to debate. Could you please be more specific?

Fallen Angel · Sep 29, 2003, 06:13 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Section 8@09-28-2003 12:41 AM
Religion and politics are a very dangerous and volitile mix. Especially if nationalism is mixed in there. Church leaders teach young children to obey authority, and also instill conservative right-wing beliefs upon them. From day one they teach you how to think. If you abolished organized religion it would remove this indoctrination of people. This would allow many to form their own beliefs on G-D, instead of following what your parents and church leaders say. This would set the children who are forced to go to church by their parents free. It would free the youth's minds.

Have Fun
Shalom

You only want them free so you can brainwash them with Socialist ideas!

Fallen Angel · Sep 29, 2003, 06:23 am

Quote:

Originally posted by fedfem@09-28-2003 01:25 PM
Fallen, you need to read some history. Your pulpit mentality offers nothing to debate. Could you please be more specific?

Well I can give you afew examples of the Christian missionary Stanley in Africa, breaking up the Islamic slave trade in the 19thC, but if its adebate you want I'll go do some research, I can tell you one thing but if you think Christianity was the only participant in Black slavery you had better go investigate the Arabs.
And do you think Christianity has much to do with the running of the modern day rackets in slavery, millions of women all over the world in Eastern Europe, Africa, asia and even the US are today, slaves.
Is that Christianitys fault, or a Godless societys fault, that is only interested in one thing and that is money.

Sep 23, 2003, 07:24 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	Now don't get me wrong, I don't care what religion you are. This is about the abolishment of the church not religion. I highly suggest you read this articles: http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archi...m/whatis_7.html and this http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archi...m/whatis_9.html Have fun Shalom

Sep 23, 2003, 10:23 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Fallen Angel Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333	All you are offering is another form of slavery, one that denies there is a God.

Sep 24, 2003, 12:09 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	FA did you even read the links that I posted? If you did you would realize that it would not stop the worship of G-D, or the conducting of different religions. Next time please read the links before posting. Have Fun Shalom

Sep 24, 2003, 01:43 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Fallen Angel Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333	No I did'nt bother to look at your links, because I don't believe you are offering true freedom of choice of religon, also out of curiosity, why do you post God as G-D, are you worried about something, or is it just a immature dig at Christians or other followers of a faith?

Sep 24, 2003, 07:43 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
Geoff332 Igneous Magma Location: New Zealand Posts: 309	The Bible states that no-one can know the true name of God. In certain circles (primarily judeism) "God" is written as "G-d". It was very popular among Christian's in the middle ages and is maintained today, for a variety of reasons.

Sep 24, 2003, 08:02 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
Fallen Angel Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333	Really, where did you find that out?

Sep 24, 2003, 10:16 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	FA I'm a practicing Reform Jew. Hopefully now you see that your comments about me offering a form of religios slavery were uneducated because of the fact that I'm a Jew so why would I offer a form of religious slavery. Now hopefully you can stop being stubborn and read the links. Have Fun Shalom

Sep 24, 2003, 06:32 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Geoff332 Igneous Magma Location: New Zealand Posts: 309	I can't remember where I found that out. It's fairly common knowledge for anyone who has studied religious, Biblical or Christian history -- I tripped over it at some stage.

Sep 24, 2003, 07:09 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	FA, next time you post on a topic, make sure you read what the topic is discussing instead of making assumptions. I don't have a problem if you don't agree with me, but your posts in this topic have just been ignorant, and without any factual basis. Have Fun Shalom

Sep 24, 2003, 07:21 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
Geoff332 Igneous Magma Location: New Zealand Posts: 309	Don't answer here, but I am wondering if you could tell me what exactly being a "reformed jew" means (or at least means to you). To keep things on one topic, I've started a new thread. Thanks.

Sep 24, 2003, 08:40 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
Geoff332 Igneous Magma Location: New Zealand Posts: 309	I'm not saying I agree with the usage -- but that's a rough history behind it.

Sep 28, 2003, 12:41 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	Religion and politics are a very dangerous and volitile mix. Especially if nationalism is mixed in there. Church leaders teach young children to obey authority, and also instill conservative right-wing beliefs upon them. From day one they teach you how to think. If you abolished organized religion it would remove this indoctrination of people. This would allow many to form their own beliefs on G-D, instead of following what your parents and church leaders say. This would set the children who are forced to go to church by their parents free. It would free the youth's minds. Have Fun Shalom