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Technosoul · Mar 20, 2006, 03:41 pm

Should the Supreme Court rule that the justice department is un-consitutional? That might seem like an odd question but it has merit in my opinon.

For the court system is acting like a religious cult, telling us what is right or wrong and playing god in the determination of life and death. And as a population we have put our faith in the courts to set forth our brand of secular morality. So they are acting much like a church would do if some Pope was dictating to us what standards we must live by.

And the whole court system is rooted in old religious dogmas - simular to the 10 Commandments and ideas like 'an eye for an eye'. At least the courts are para-religious in how they operate. A "day in court" is simular to the biblical idea of "judgement day" as discribed in biblical passages.

If it acts like a horse, and looks like a horse, it is a horse. (as one might say using folk wisdom).

They even wear long robs like they used to do in biblical times.

And when in court we might have to beg for mercy like we would do if repenting before the Lord.

We must take off our hats and bow to thier "supreme-ness" and say "your highness, sir".

My point is that the consitution - as often interperted - demands a seperation between state and church - between government and religion. And so because the lower courts are simulating a religious cult they cannot be funded by our taxpayer's government nor housed in a governmental building. They must go "private" and be run by some sort of secular company. Because they are in violation of our consitution and our rights. The right not to be forced to worship any authority that claims to be the gods of what is right and wrong (good and evil).

Changing the name form church to the name courthouse is not fooling me. I can see through that illusion. But what do you think? Should the Supreme Court outlaw the justice system as being unconsitutional because of their religious bearings in appearence?

grandpa · Mar 20, 2006, 03:49 pm

[quote=Technosoul]Should the Supreme Court rule that the justice department is un-consitutional? That might seem like an odd question but it has merit in my opinon.
QUOTE]

You know those prayers our government has before its little sessions? Those too violate the secular principles in our constitution. For that matter, it is just plain rude.

Grandpa h.

SteveA · Mar 20, 2006, 04:33 pm

Do you believe this strongly enough to put your hand on a bible and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you, God?

Do they still do that?

Technosoul · Mar 20, 2006, 08:03 pm

Freedom of speech would also cover the word God - and prayers spoken outloud. But you got a good point - asking God to direct the thinking and the outcome of certain meetings where political determinations are made is a bit unconsitutional - but it is also clear that none of them are really listening for 'directives from God' because otherwise they would not effect so many stupid ideas.

They would be more honest if they phoned some corperation CEO and asked him to direct the outcome of the session. At least it is hard for me to imagine that God is a capitalist. But that might only be because I got influenced by the critical left - yooho.

None the less Gramps - you are changing the topic - a topic that (perhaps) no one had ever brought to he table before now. All that stuff about praying in the White House, in Congress, or in school rooms, has already been hashed over enough times - have mercy and don't mention it again.

My idea to ban the courts from government funding and to seperate it from our system of government as being unconsitutional is a whole nother bag. Why should I as a minority be subjected to a secular religion of higher-ups? The idea that God is judge is enough without having a bunch of humans running around acting like they are god. Even the consitution is unconsitutional and that truth is self evident. It is clearly a contradiction of it's own dogma.

Mar 20, 2006, 03:41 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	Religious Justice Should the Supreme Court rule that the justice department is un-consitutional? That might seem like an odd question but it has merit in my opinon. For the court system is acting like a religious cult, telling us what is right or wrong and playing god in the determination of life and death. And as a population we have put our faith in the courts to set forth our brand of secular morality. So they are acting much like a church would do if some Pope was dictating to us what standards we must live by. And the whole court system is rooted in old religious dogmas - simular to the 10 Commandments and ideas like 'an eye for an eye'. At least the courts are para-religious in how they operate. A "day in court" is simular to the biblical idea of "judgement day" as discribed in biblical passages. If it acts like a horse, and looks like a horse, it is a horse. (as one might say using folk wisdom). They even wear long robs like they used to do in biblical times. And when in court we might have to beg for mercy like we would do if repenting before the Lord. We must take off our hats and bow to thier "supreme-ness" and say "your highness, sir". My point is that the consitution - as often interperted - demands a seperation between state and church - between government and religion. And so because the lower courts are simulating a religious cult they cannot be funded by our taxpayer's government nor housed in a governmental building. They must go "private" and be run by some sort of secular company. Because they are in violation of our consitution and our rights. The right not to be forced to worship any authority that claims to be the gods of what is right and wrong (good and evil). Changing the name form church to the name courthouse is not fooling me. I can see through that illusion. But what do you think? Should the Supreme Court outlaw the justice system as being unconsitutional because of their religious bearings in appearence?

Mar 20, 2006, 04:33 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
SteveA Anarcho-capitalist Posts: 1,972	Do you believe this strongly enough to put your hand on a bible and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you, God? Do they still do that? Freedom - are you man enough to handle it? If so, join us in New Hampshire! The Free State Project ("Liberty in our lifetime!") www.freestateproject.com

Mar 20, 2006, 03:49 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
grandpa blasphemer Location: Michigan Posts: 7,369	[quote=Technosoul]Should the Supreme Court rule that the justice department is un-consitutional? That might seem like an odd question but it has merit in my opinon. QUOTE] You know those prayers our government has before its little sessions? Those too violate the secular principles in our constitution. For that matter, it is just plain rude. Grandpa h.

Mar 20, 2006, 08:03 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	Freedom of speech would also cover the word God - and prayers spoken outloud. But you got a good point - asking God to direct the thinking and the outcome of certain meetings where political determinations are made is a bit unconsitutional - but it is also clear that none of them are really listening for 'directives from God' because otherwise they would not effect so many stupid ideas. They would be more honest if they phoned some corperation CEO and asked him to direct the outcome of the session. At least it is hard for me to imagine that God is a capitalist. But that might only be because I got influenced by the critical left - yooho. None the less Gramps - you are changing the topic - a topic that (perhaps) no one had ever brought to he table before now. All that stuff about praying in the White House, in Congress, or in school rooms, has already been hashed over enough times - have mercy and don't mention it again. My idea to ban the courts from government funding and to seperate it from our system of government as being unconsitutional is a whole nother bag. Why should I as a minority be subjected to a secular religion of higher-ups? The idea that God is judge is enough without having a bunch of humans running around acting like they are god. Even the consitution is unconsitutional and that truth is self evident. It is clearly a contradiction of it's own dogma.