How do Atheists and Agnostics deal with death?

[Ghumanto]

No Sir, you are definitely not stupid and also not even hard nut. You felt that you are floating around and you were not feeling fear; very distinctly mean what I have written about after death state of person is very correct. My dear you had an experience of ouside body state. Persons in body can not imagine this state. You have cofirmed that person does not end with death as proposed by Sonart, Logical Lunatic and others. They are surely much away from the reality. Please re-read my last post in this thread and compare with your feelings at that time of sickness. Tell me, have you got glimpse of your own body lying somewhere below you, anytime during extreme sickness?? If so, theb you must have worried for that. This worry, in the most of the cases is cause the ofreincarnation!!! It my feeling, I may be wrong.

Kuldeep ( I guess you are from India ) - I really do not mean that I had an experience where body and soul are separated .
I mean it was some sort-of-a bizzare feeling that you don't usually have . If it was near death - perhaps I was in halucination, my mind was shwoing me something that I just can't determine when I'm sober.
Also, I feel most people has similar experience during their very sick period .
So, I'm not prepared to accept a very philosophic explanation for this .

Before my father's death, I was always thinking what would I do when he dies ; but when Dad died - I didn't do something unusual. Human mind is such a thing that it worries too much for a certain issue , but when that issue really come - most of us handle it quite nicely.
Death is inevitable . So I don't think we need think too much about this - it'll be accepted just like other inevitable issues .

[Zealot]

[QUOTE=Sonart]Ahhh, Pascal's Wager, cover my bets, eh? You're saying I should lie to God... *wink, wink* Ok, I believe, just in case. *wink, wink*

Obviously this is incomprehensible to you, Zealot, being a zealot and all, but as a young man I tried to believe in God. Got together with a Christian group, prayed and asked Jesus to come into my life. RStudied the Bible. Lasted about a month, until it finally came crashing in that I just didn't... couldn't... buy it.

There is your problem Son, you can't buy it.
It is not for sale, it is free. That's what throws so many off the track to Jesus my friend. Only Jesus can give you the real, organic stuff, all others is sinking sand.

Zealot...keep searchin Son...

[Zealot]

I know a man who had died now he lives.

I know a man like that Checkmate, His name is Jesus, He lives and His spirit lives among us today. Want to know Him?

Zealot

[Starboy]

Depends on what you're selling, of course.

Does it really matter?

The fear of finality, of absolute nothingness is pretty powerful. Whether you personally have those feelings or not, you have to respect them in others.

Any healthy person has those fears, but it is not healthy to be so desperate to deal with those fears that you become an idiot to do it. Life is scary. You can cower in a corner with your supernatural teddy bear desperately trying to prepare to die or you can see it as an adventure and get busy living.

Starboy

[Scribbler1]

Does it really matter?

Of course it does. If I pay someone for an apple, I expect an apple. If I pay someone for something based on my willingness to believe in it, I still get what I pay for even though you can't see it.

Any healthy person has those fears, but it is not healthy to be so desperate to deal with those fears that you become an idiot to do it. Life is scary. You can cower in a corner with your supernatural teddy bear desperately trying to prepare to die or you can see it as an adventure and get busy living.

Starboy

Not everyone wants to be adventurous. There are a LOT more people watching football on TV than bungee jumping. Adventure is usually a choice and I don't think we should put anyone down for not being as keen on it as others. If some people DON'T want to "get busy living" its their business, period. Ditto for anyone who wants to believe in an afterlife, or believes in a higher power or believes the refrigerator light stays on when you close the door. In the end it doesn't affect me so I say live and let live.

[Starboy]

Of course it does. If I pay someone for an apple, I expect an apple. If I pay someone for something based on my willingness to believe in it, I still get what I pay for even though you can't see it.

Getting people to pay you for their willingness to believe is how cons are done. Cons work because people are willing to believe. There will always be people willing to believe just about anything and there will always be people that will exploit that belief. It is stupid to not understand this and see supernatural religion for the con that it is. Now I want to be explicit and make the distinction “supernatural” religion. I am not of the opinion that religion in and of it self is harmful.

Not everyone wants to be adventurous. There are a LOT more people watching football on TV than bungee jumping. Adventure is usually a choice and I don't think we should put anyone down for not being as keen on it as others. If some people DON'T want to "get busy living" its their business, period. Ditto for anyone who wants to believe in an afterlife, or believes in a higher power or believes the refrigerator light stays on when you close the door. In the end it doesn't affect me so I say live and let live.

So those are the choices when it comes to the spectrum of adventurousness? TV or bungee jumping? Hey if you want to cower in the corner with a supernatural teddy bear that is fine, but do not try to convince anyone that there is anything noble or all that smart about it. It is just a cop out.

Starboy

[Boetie]

What it was like before you were born, is what it will be like after you die.

[Osborn F Enready]

I, as an athiest, deal with death as the reality that it is.

It is a loved one departing my life, and if we should meet again somehow, it would be great, but I don't build my reality around it.

Losing a loved one sucks more than just about anything in life, but life must go on, and the ones I loved would want that.

Nobody can say what happens when we die, and I believe trying to make people beleive that we DO know what happens, is pretty silly.

I take faith in the fact that we all live, and we all die. Time moves on. Death is a natural logical consequence of life.

[Protostar]

Why is there anything you wish to now ABOUT JESUS . I had two years of jesus and yes is spirit does live among us today. I already now him. Magical man very good with is hands don,t you think. Come across quit update with is situation, and what was going on around him VERY CUNNING. HAD A LOT OF FAITH. DOES NOT YOUR LOCAL PREIST DO THIS. THEIR VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO, IS THIS GODS WILL or is it JESUS will , our is it everybodys freewill, our do poeple follow like sheep, OUR DID POEPLE HAVE FAITH IN WHAT HE SAID WAS RIGHT. DO YOU THINK I SHOULD KNOW HIM. OR DO I KNOW HIM ALREADY.

CHECKMATE

Dude, I didn't understand any of what you said. :confused: Maybe you could calm down and try to explain what you are trying to say.

[Sonart]

There is your problem Son, you can't buy it.

It is not for sale, it is free. That's what throws so many off the track to Jesus my friend. Only Jesus can give you the real, organic stuff, all others is sinking sand.

You're not hearing me, DOOD!. I CAN'T believe in supernatural nonsense. Not ghosts, not goblins, not Greek gods, not Santa Claus, no Mohamed, not Vishnu, not Valhalla, not fairies, and not anyone's God & Sons. It's not happening, it's not in me... however you want to say it, I cannot simply DECIDE to believe in something that every fiber of my being says absolutely does not exist, so stop with the idiot sound bite prosthelization, ok SONNY?

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[sergeant]

You're not hearing me, DOOD!. I CAN'T believe in supernatural nonsense. Not ghosts, not goblins, not Greek gods, not Santa Claus, no Mohamed, not Vishnu, not Valhalla, not fairies, and not anyone's God & Sons. It's not happening, it's not in me... however you want to say it, I cannot simply DECIDE to believe in something that every fiber of my being says absolutely does not exist, so stop with the idiot sound bite prosthelization, ok SONNY?

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Somewhat harsh...I think................so stop with the idiot sound bite prosthelization, ok SONNY? However, I don't know the history between you two. What Zealot is saying is what Christians everywhere say...so you can take it to heart or just move on....but around Christians you are going to hear that exact phrase.

[LetThereBe]

So those are the choices when it comes to the spectrum of adventurousness? TV or bungee jumping? Hey if you want to cower in the corner with a supernatural teddy bear that is fine, but do not try to convince anyone that there is anything noble or all that smart about it. It is just a cop out.

Starboy

I've known Christians who do a lot more good and a lot more living than anyone else I've seen.... and yes, they are the supernatural type too.