genetic engineering?

[Athena]

Ezekiel is an interesting part of the bible. It is so usual, I wonder why it was included. There are some NASA engineers who believe Ezekiel was discribing the landing of alien space craft. Another post said about 6000 years ago, two new genes related to brain development appear in the human DNA. At the same time The Sahara desest turns from a lush valley into a desert. I have so many questions and so few answers.

I believe Hindus have an account of what could be alien warfare? Around the world there are stories of a supreme being that will return, and of course Easter Island is a monument of huge stone faces looking the sky. While in south America there are ground cravings so large they can only seen in full from the sky. These appear to be run ways for flying machines. At least one Mayan craving appears to a being in a flying machine.

Anyone want to play with this?

[Starboy]

All those accounts seem very much to me like the orphan syndrome. The orphan explains to the other orphans that they have parents that love them and will be back to get them. It never happens but it makes people who feel abandoned feel better. In those cases you cite the parents are aliens. In the religious case it is an all powerful sky daddy. Oh well. If it makes them feel better about them selves then fine, as long as they don't become obsessed with it.

Starboy

[rcne]

Athena, I'm on your side in this debate. There are many things from the distant past histories that we from beyond the dark ages and land of heretics claim must be false because our definition of reality glosses over that from our past that won't fit our vision of today.

If only the Library of Alexandria hadn't been destroyed by Christians, then Muslims some of this knowledge may have carried forward into today.

Starboy its not so much an orphan syndrome as a suspicion that there is more to heaven and earth than we can imagine. I think a bard said something like that. :)

[Starboy]

Quote by: rcne Starboy its not so much an orphan syndrome as a suspicion that there is more to heaven and earth than we can imagine. I think a bard said something like that. :)

I agree there could very well be more to reality than we can imagine. However it is very interesting that people gravitate to explanations that mimic the orphan syndrome if not out and out examples of the orphan syndrome.

Starboy

[Athena]

Quote by: Starboy All those accounts seem very much to me like the orphan syndrome. The orphan explains to the other orphans that they have parents that love them and will be back to get them. It never happens but it makes people who feel abandoned feel better. In those cases you cite the parents are aliens. In the religious case it is an all powerful sky daddy. Oh well. If it makes them feel better about them selves then fine, as long as they don't become obsessed with it. Starboy

I suppose everything can be explained as pyschological phenomena, but this thread is for fun, so please don't be so serious here.

[Starboy]

Er, I was having fun. Nothing beats actual reality for real fun.

Starboy

[Athena]

Quote by: rcne Athena, I'm on your side in this debate. There are many things from the distant past histories that we from beyond the dark ages and land of heretics claim must be false because our definition of reality glosses over that from our past that won't fit our vision of today. If only the Library of Alexandria hadn't been destroyed by Christians, then Muslims some of this knowledge may have carried forward into today.

It was your thread that got me to thinking about this.

[/quote] our brains are evolving


Quote:
'Proof' our brains are evolving

The changes presumably confer a survival benefit
University scientists say they have found strong proof that the human brain is still evolving.
By comparing modern man with our ancestors of 37,000 years ago, the Chicago team discovered big changes in two genes linked to brain size.

One of the new variants emerged only 5,800 years ago yet is present in 30% of today's humans, they believe.

This is very short in evolutionary terms, suggesting intense selection pressures, they told Science.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4222460.stm [/quote]

I moved the thought here to add Ezekiel to it. Now we need to know from your post who was tested and why they think the new gene is in 30% of the population? To me is it is obvious some people have been more capable than others are I don't think we are sure why. I know this is taboo thing to say! But sometimes we need to live on the edge and to consider the unthinkable. This is as great in history to ask this question, because we have so much information and the ability to access more. Where did the genes origin and where have they travel? What "myths" just conincidentially came from the same place and time?

Why are there round circles for observing the heavens around the world? Why does it appear some information is built in the pryamid of Gisa?


Don't stress too much about the burning of the library at Alexandria. Too much was written on papyrus and Eygpt had such long periods of decline, we probably would have lost it all any way.

[Rainbow]

Check this link and read the information, please :
http://fischinger.alien.de/Artikel47.html

That article is written in German, but one can use translation via :
- http://world.altavista.com

It refers to an encounter (read : destruction of Jerusalem) that took place, witnessed by Ezekiel.
That fact is written within the Bible. When I read the Bible for the first time, it turned my attention to a fact that Ezekiel described "God"s messengers (read : "Angels") as creatures that looked like Humans, while providng very specific and detailed informations on "Them". The way "They" looked, walked, dressed, act alike, ect.
Ezekiel was "intelligent" enough to distinguish God from "God"s messengers (read: "Angels").

According to the Bible, God has created the world we live-in. I believe that is a symbolic description.
I believe that God exists (within ourselves and physically aside), but Who or What is God, I can only speculate with more or less accurate answer, based on all the available informations.
I believe that "Others" have created us (Mankind).
Why ?
I do not know, but we have variety of physical and logical explanations in order to support such theory.
In my opinion, "Others" conducted a genetic experiment on the Solar System's 3-rd planet (that we call it today) Earth. The Bible gives no answers to other continents and races that inhabitted planet Earth. It provides us with an informatinon that God created Mankind (Homo Sappiens).

Going to Africa does neither change a person's DNA nor a race. It applies to all the continents. The only knnown methods to accomplish that task is : by mixing races or creating new ones.
Since genetics is not well-known and strong field for Mankind (as of today), the question remains :
- who, when and why has created Mankind ?

We have different races on different continents.
I think it was dones on a purpose, in order to observe, monitor and supervise particular race's eventual progress. Every single continent has its own specific environement. By taking away any technological means from every single race, that genetic experiment would give some answers (to "Creators") which race was making progress along with conditions and results.

Ezekiel's encounter with "God" is the answer, that "They" came back (a little later) and got rid of some "weeds". Since "They" had established Homo Sappiens then "They" had all the rights to manage "its product" the way "They" wished.

I also believe that "They" brought all the informations on God and passed that data to Mankind, and "They" were very careful and systematic with that subject (read : God).
"They" were not able to create "Themselves" (on "Their" own), either. Somebody or Something had to create "Them" as well.
Why had "They" brought all the informations on God ?
Logically, "They" had enough power to handle Mankind and/or control us without any "God" or Its knowledge. However, "They" decided to go with passing all the information on God to us.
I have no answer on : "why". I can only speculate on that subject.
"They" knew that very well, that "They" can not submit the data on God as a "fairy tales", since a progress is not being made on "baloney-theory". Otherwise we all end up becoming Collodi's "Pinocchio"s :-)))

Today, "They" come (along with other species) and monitor us, while making contacts in some occasions. Why "They" do not want to establish contacts ?
It seems that we differ to "Them", and not being taken as "friendly scpecies" any longer. Have we evolved that much from "its Origins" ? It most likely means : yes.

[Athena]

Genesis 6:1 When men began to increase in number on the earth, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the Lord said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal, his days will be a hunderd and twenty years."

Note, up to this time beings live hundreds of years. Why would Lord say man would live only 120 years?

What are the Niphilim? "The nephilim were on the earth in those days- and also aferward- when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heros of old, men of renown".

I believe the Hebrews translated the story of the flood from Sumerian clay tablets. In the Sumerian story, several Gods and Goddesses are involved. Wouldn't it be a hoot if these stories were the gossip of the day, and the men of God who married the daughters of men? I am not saying this is the way things were, but I am opening a door to things we do not know for sure. Many women had children after being visited by angels, including the wife of Abraham and the mother of Jesus.

[orgaelin]

Some of the best work done on this subject is by Alan F Alford. Unfortunately his second book spent so much time refuting his original ideas laid out in the first that I felt dissinclined to read his ideas any more, in case a next book refuted those too!

I think there is definitely a case for interference of some sort. I hesitate to use the term 'aliens' because it is such an overplayed subject, with so many idiots with false claims. However, I think something either external or from an earlier time on this planet has altered a primitive form of man, even if only through a civilising influence. I believe also that this same 'something' or 'someone' has continuing influence on our developments technologically - because it makes so little sense that a race could go from being land-lubbers to moon-landers within less than a hundred years.

~ Org.