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shunyadragon · Feb 29, 2004, 10:07 pm

Myths to most people are beliefs in things that are not real. Many realists, atheists and scientists consider most religion myth. In this topic I do want to address religions specifically, but anyone can post a myth that is from religion for discussion. Misinformation is a product of our modern information age that creates what I call 'Modern Myths' (MM). MMs are false facts and beliefs that become popular because they appear in the media. The modern age of media began about 1844 when after this date printed materials became common in the world and general literacy and education began to spread to the lower classes and the world. 'Ancient Myths' are beliefs that originate in traditions and older beliefs when people were not educated and literate. Examples of AMs are dragons fairies and elves.

An example of a modern myth is that the only manmade objects you can see from the moon and in orbit are the Great Wall and the Pyramids. This MM is wide spread in books, documentaries, movies, newspapers and school text books all over the world, especially in China. The myth is compounded by adding the testimony that Armstrong saw the Great Wall from the moon. The pyramids got stuck in their sometime later.

Well the truth is the earth is a blue, green and white marble in space from the moon. Nothing manmade is visible. From orbit many things can be seen, but the neither the Great Wall or the pyramids are clearly visible with the naked eye. At night the lights of many of the Large cities are visible. The Dutch polders are the most clearly visible object from orbit.

Simple logic determines that the Great Wall and the Pyramids are not visible from space, but most people believe the media. The problem with the Great Wall is most of it is gone. What is left is gray and brown and only about 30 to 40 meters wide at most. The shadow of the Great Wall is the only thing visible from high altitudes. Modern higways are more visible from high altitudes than the Great Wall.

**Pooeypants** · Mar 1, 2004, 10:48 am

Another piece of great misinformation is that the MMR vaccine was linked to development of autism. The report which was published was done based on sampling of 12 children and the doctor was paid for by their parents to promote some kind of link. Somehow the media latched and it spread nationwide in the UK. MMR vaccination went from above 90% to near 80% within the following few things. Although there has never been any other scientist whom agreed with the report, for some reason quite a lot parents choose to believe it. Luckily it's been cleared up properly now, and so this urban legend will hopefully die quickly.

Sandy · Mar 1, 2004, 10:54 am

when I discovered that I never really believed in the Jesus story but found the old testament "might" be based on true history. What shook me to my boots was when I discovered King Arthur was also a myth. I still hope ancient papers or somekind of proof might just be found to prove that he existed. I even went so far to visit the areas around England where this myth was supposed to happen.

The story of Jesus is a myth based on emotions of people who never spent much time giving rational thought to the story. Look at the reaction to "The Passion" that has caused intelligent people to fold under the 75 minutes of pure blood and gore.

Mathieu · Mar 1, 2004, 11:31 am

Fast like that, I think of the urban legend that we use only 10% of our brain . I miss the english to explain why, but I'm sure some people here are willing to do it for me.

thepaganscientist · Mar 1, 2004, 12:12 pm

Hmm.. debates debates debates.

Firstly, the 'scriptures' as we know them were actually written by two families. Both Italian (I forget the names, must be this weed).

Religion, like government; although fundamentally different, is simply another form of control. I dont know if anyone has done any research into secret societies and the catholic church as I have but the two are very closely linked, not least with a secret society founded in 1776 called the Order of Illuminati. If you start to research these keywords you will find a multitude of disinformation and lies wrapped in a thin veil of truth (wow poetic... must be this weed) involving the afore thread-mentioned mythical king arthur, the holy grail (not actually a cup), the knights templar... you can spend a long time tracing these peoples back through time to before ancient egypt and babylonian and sumerian (iraq) times.

Why do you think countries like Great (ahem) Britain stomped around the planet destroying cultures and their documented history? ...simply so future generations have more difficulty tracing the roots of the truth. But they didnt destroy all of the cultures and histories (maybe they still need some eh?) and the research can be done.

The same people are still in power today and will be until 'the end of days'.

Thankyou and Goodnight
Peace.
The Pagan Scientist :)

tman_ndsu08 · Mar 1, 2004, 12:40 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
not least with a secret society founded in 1776 called the Order of Illuminati<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

You should read "Angels and Demons" by Dan Brown. It's boarderline fiction/non-fiction about the church and the illuminati.

thepaganscientist · Mar 1, 2004, 01:11 pm

Ive heard of that book. Co-incidentally (is there such a thing?) ...Im listening to an MP3 audiobook called the DaVinci Code by the same author. This one seems to blend truth well with his 'murder' story :)

Reveals a lot about DaVinci I didnt know up until hearing it. I recommend this book to and I havent even finished it yet.

Thanks for your recommendation too

The Pagan Scientist

thepaganscientist · Mar 1, 2004, 01:13 pm

incidentally... wasnt 1776 also the year of American Independence??

and co-incidentally (haha) the new World Trade Centre will stand at 1776 metres high. Celebrating Independence Day or the foundation of the Order of Illuminati??? ...the statue of liberty points me in the direction of the latter :)

The Pagan Pothead

Automatic Nate · Mar 1, 2004, 02:46 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Sandy,)
when I discovered that I never really believed in the Jesus story but found the old testament "might" be based on true history. What shook me to my boots was when I discovered King Arthur was also a myth. I still hope ancient papers or somekind of proof might just be found to prove that he existed. I even went so far to visit the areas around England where this myth was supposed to happen.

The story of Jesus is a myth based on emotions of people who never spent much time giving rational thought to the story. Look at the reaction to "The Passion" that has caused intelligent people to fold under the 75 minutes of pure blood and gore.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
I thought that chroniclers in British monasteries had indicated, around the sixth century, that there was actually a warlord named Arthur in Wales (in other words, they were writing about contemporary political events, not stories of days gone by). If I remember right, many of the middle English romances and chronicle histories have Arthur coming from Wales to rule Britain. Of course, I'd have to know what you mean by "the story of Jesus" before I could tell whether documentary evidence would suffice to convince you that indeed Arturus did rule Wales.

Automatic Nate · Mar 1, 2004, 02:48 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (thepaganscientist,)
Hmm.. debates debates debates.

Firstly, the 'scriptures' as we know them were actually written by two families. Both Italian (I forget the names, must be this weed).

Religion, like government; although fundamentally different, is simply another form of control. I dont know if anyone has done any research into secret societies and the catholic church as I have but the two are very closely linked, not least with a secret society founded in 1776 called the Order of Illuminati. If you start to research these keywords you will find a multitude of disinformation and lies wrapped in a thin veil of truth (wow poetic... must be this weed) involving the afore thread-mentioned mythical king arthur, the holy grail (not actually a cup), the knights templar... you can spend a long time tracing these peoples back through time to before ancient egypt and babylonian and sumerian (iraq) times.

Why do you think countries like Great (ahem) Britain stomped around the planet destroying cultures and their documented history? ...simply so future generations have more difficulty tracing the roots of the truth. But they didnt destroy all of the cultures and histories (maybe they still need some eh?) and the research can be done.

The same people are still in power today and will be until 'the end of days'.

Thankyou and Goodnight
Peace.
The Pagan Scientist :)<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
I was going to ask you for sources on the Italians who you claim wrote "the 'scriptures' as we know them," but then when you launched into the Illuminati business, I figured the immediate answer would be that the Illuminati doesn't want me to know who the Italians were. Am I wrong?

**Pooeypants** · Mar 1, 2004, 06:10 pm

Why is it that there are so many conspiracy theories of Great Britain ruling the world in secrecy? Have you been chatting to Peter Angelo (fellow member)?

shunyadragon · Mar 1, 2004, 06:34 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mathieu,)
Fast like that, I think of the urban legend that we use only 10% of our brain . I miss the english to explain why, but I'm sure some people here are willing to do it for me.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

The figure ranges from 10 to 15% and comes from an early research on observing brain activity. That research, of course, is no longer valid, but the myth persists.

Seeing the Great Wall and the pyramids from the moon story is probably the greatest April Fool joke in history, because so many people believe it.

Mar 6, 2004, 03:10 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Sandy,)
when I discovered that I never really believed in the Jesus story but found the old testament "might" be based on true history. What shook me to my boots was when I discovered King Arthur was also a myth. I still hope ancient papers or somekind of proof might just be found to prove that he existed. I even went so far to visit the areas around England where this myth was supposed to happen.

The story of Jesus is a myth based on emotions of people who never spent much time giving rational thought to the story. Look at the reaction to "The Passion" that has caused intelligent people to fold under the 75 minutes of pure blood and gore.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

there was a king arthur

but he was just a simple chief of a tribe of saxon
not quite the legand everyone has heard
but genuine nonetheless

shunyadragon · Mar 6, 2004, 04:48 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (gecko,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Sandy,)
when I discovered that I never really believed in the Jesus story but found the old testament "might" be based on true history. What shook me to my boots was when I discovered King Arthur was also a myth. I still hope ancient papers or somekind of proof might just be found to prove that he existed. I even went so far to visit the areas around England where this myth was supposed to happen.

The story of Jesus is a myth based on emotions of people who never spent much time giving rational thought to the story. Look at the reaction to "The Passion" that has caused intelligent people to fold under the 75 minutes of pure blood and gore.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

there was a king arthur

but he was just a simple chief of a tribe of saxon
not quite the legand everyone has heard
but genuine nonetheless<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

The King Arthur of legend probably was a real person, most likely a Saxon chief. This is even subect to conjecture. The version I have heard recently is he may have been a Roman called Artius or Arthius.

I am interested in any sources as to who King Arthur was.

shunyadragon · Mar 6, 2004, 04:52 am

Another common urban myth that is subject to debate is did Marco Polo ever get to China and do the things he said he did in China. I believe he did not make it to China. He went to various places in the Arab world and collected stories about China and the silk road. His stories have some inconsistencies that are hard accept.

Are there any challengers out there that may want to debate whether Marco Polo really went to China?

Mar 6, 2004, 09:49 am

well arthur was recorded in the roman records. but he was not of roman origin himself, at that time many of the ancestors of modern english race were roman citizens

shunyadragon · Mar 7, 2004, 07:44 am

Is William Shakespeare a real person or a pen name for an anonymous author. Who would be that author?

I will check more on Arthur of legend.

lostkiwi · Mar 7, 2004, 07:32 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (shunyadragon,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mathieu,)
Fast like that, I think of the urban legend that we use only 10% of our brain . I miss the english to explain why, but I'm sure some people here are willing to do it for me.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

The figure ranges from 10 to 15% and comes from an early research on observing brain activity. That research, of course, is no longer valid, but the myth persists.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I believe that it is 10 - 15% at any one time. Sure you're using 10% right now but you'll be using other parts later on today. You use all of your brain (hopefully) throughout the day.

My favorite Myth right now has to be the crucifixion of Jesus. Aren't movies great. The closest thing we have to truth in the matter is that Jesus was killed by the Romans for the crime of sedition. Everything else is pure conjecture, there were no witnesses to the facts that were sympathetic to Jesus after all.

Suburbanite · Mar 8, 2004, 06:01 am

There is that Myth regarding the problems of ecstacy when those reports have now been made invalid and the only known possible harm comes from over heating.

shunyadragon · Mar 8, 2004, 06:37 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (gecko,)
well arthur was recorded in the roman records. but he was not of roman origin himself, at that time many of the ancestors of modern english race were roman citizens<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I checked the internet and found a lot of information on www.britannica.com

King Arthur does not refer to the name of a real person according to most historians. The earliest person who recorded the history of his time Saint Giles did not mention him. Most historians consider it a legend originating in ballads and oral legends that my refer to another historical figure like the King of the Bretones (Brittones), Riothamus.

Many of the lords and rulers at the time of the collapse of the Roman Empire were Romans that kept their power as Rome lost control in the British Isles. The Romans were closer allies of the Brittones than other northern peoples like the Germanic tribes, because they shared many common enemies like the visagothes, Angles and Saxons.

Feb 29, 2004, 10:07 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
shunyadragon Hot Lava Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 940	Myths to most people are beliefs in things that are not real. Many realists, atheists and scientists consider most religion myth. In this topic I do want to address religions specifically, but anyone can post a myth that is from religion for discussion. Misinformation is a product of our modern information age that creates what I call 'Modern Myths' (MM). MMs are false facts and beliefs that become popular because they appear in the media. The modern age of media began about 1844 when after this date printed materials became common in the world and general literacy and education began to spread to the lower classes and the world. 'Ancient Myths' are beliefs that originate in traditions and older beliefs when people were not educated and literate. Examples of AMs are dragons fairies and elves. An example of a modern myth is that the only manmade objects you can see from the moon and in orbit are the Great Wall and the Pyramids. This MM is wide spread in books, documentaries, movies, newspapers and school text books all over the world, especially in China. The myth is compounded by adding the testimony that Armstrong saw the Great Wall from the moon. The pyramids got stuck in their sometime later. Well the truth is the earth is a blue, green and white marble in space from the moon. Nothing manmade is visible. From orbit many things can be seen, but the neither the Great Wall or the pyramids are clearly visible with the naked eye. At night the lights of many of the Large cities are visible. The Dutch polders are the most clearly visible object from orbit. Simple logic determines that the Great Wall and the Pyramids are not visible from space, but most people believe the media. The problem with the Great Wall is most of it is gone. What is left is gray and brown and only about 30 to 40 meters wide at most. The shadow of the Great Wall is the only thing visible from high altitudes. Modern higways are more visible from high altitudes than the Great Wall. The empty cup contains the most Frank A Doonan Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk www.shunyadragon.com I do not know, therefore I think . . .

Mar 1, 2004, 10:48 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,609	Another piece of great misinformation is that the MMR vaccine was linked to development of autism. The report which was published was done based on sampling of 12 children and the doctor was paid for by their parents to promote some kind of link. Somehow the media latched and it spread nationwide in the UK. MMR vaccination went from above 90% to near 80% within the following few things. Although there has never been any other scientist whom agreed with the report, for some reason quite a lot parents choose to believe it. Luckily it's been cleared up properly now, and so this urban legend will hopefully die quickly. War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Mar 1, 2004, 12:40 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
tman_ndsu08 BANNED Posts: 5,021	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by not least with a secret society founded in 1776 called the Order of Illuminati<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> You should read "Angels and Demons" by Dan Brown. It's boarderline fiction/non-fiction about the church and the illuminati.

Mar 1, 2004, 02:46 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
Automatic Nate Molten Ash Location: Bogart, GA, USA Posts: 130	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Sandy,) when I discovered that I never really believed in the Jesus story but found the old testament "might" be based on true history. What shook me to my boots was when I discovered King Arthur was also a myth. I still hope ancient papers or somekind of proof might just be found to prove that he existed. I even went so far to visit the areas around England where this myth was supposed to happen. The story of Jesus is a myth based on emotions of people who never spent much time giving rational thought to the story. Look at the reaction to "The Passion" that has caused intelligent people to fold under the 75 minutes of pure blood and gore.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I thought that chroniclers in British monasteries had indicated, around the sixth century, that there was actually a warlord named Arthur in Wales (in other words, they were writing about contemporary political events, not stories of days gone by). If I remember right, many of the middle English romances and chronicle histories have Arthur coming from Wales to rule Britain. Of course, I'd have to know what you mean by "the story of Jesus" before I could tell whether documentary evidence would suffice to convince you that indeed Arturus did rule Wales. "For neither Man nor Angel can discern Hypocrisie, The only evil that walks Invisible, except to God" --Paradise Lost

Mar 1, 2004, 02:48 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Automatic Nate Molten Ash Location: Bogart, GA, USA Posts: 130	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (thepaganscientist,) Hmm.. debates debates debates. Firstly, the 'scriptures' as we know them were actually written by two families. Both Italian (I forget the names, must be this weed). Religion, like government; although fundamentally different, is simply another form of control. I dont know if anyone has done any research into secret societies and the catholic church as I have but the two are very closely linked, not least with a secret society founded in 1776 called the Order of Illuminati. If you start to research these keywords you will find a multitude of disinformation and lies wrapped in a thin veil of truth (wow poetic... must be this weed) involving the afore thread-mentioned mythical king arthur, the holy grail (not actually a cup), the knights templar... you can spend a long time tracing these peoples back through time to before ancient egypt and babylonian and sumerian (iraq) times. Why do you think countries like Great (ahem) Britain stomped around the planet destroying cultures and their documented history? ...simply so future generations have more difficulty tracing the roots of the truth. But they didnt destroy all of the cultures and histories (maybe they still need some eh?) and the research can be done. The same people are still in power today and will be until 'the end of days'. Thankyou and Goodnight Peace. The Pagan Scientist :)<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I was going to ask you for sources on the Italians who you claim wrote "the 'scriptures' as we know them," but then when you launched into the Illuminati business, I figured the immediate answer would be that the Illuminati doesn't want me to know who the Italians were. Am I wrong? "For neither Man nor Angel can discern Hypocrisie, The only evil that walks Invisible, except to God" --Paradise Lost

Mar 1, 2004, 10:54 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Sandy Igneous Magma Posts: 257	when I discovered that I never really believed in the Jesus story but found the old testament "might" be based on true history. What shook me to my boots was when I discovered King Arthur was also a myth. I still hope ancient papers or somekind of proof might just be found to prove that he existed. I even went so far to visit the areas around England where this myth was supposed to happen. The story of Jesus is a myth based on emotions of people who never spent much time giving rational thought to the story. Look at the reaction to "The Passion" that has caused intelligent people to fold under the 75 minutes of pure blood and gore.

Mar 1, 2004, 11:31 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Mathieu Igneous Magma Location: Montreal Posts: 216	Fast like that, I think of the urban legend that we use only 10% of our brain . I miss the english to explain why, but I'm sure some people here are willing to do it for me.

Mar 1, 2004, 12:12 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
thepaganscientist Sedimentary Rock Posts: 3	Hmm.. debates debates debates. Firstly, the 'scriptures' as we know them were actually written by two families. Both Italian (I forget the names, must be this weed). Religion, like government; although fundamentally different, is simply another form of control. I dont know if anyone has done any research into secret societies and the catholic church as I have but the two are very closely linked, not least with a secret society founded in 1776 called the Order of Illuminati. If you start to research these keywords you will find a multitude of disinformation and lies wrapped in a thin veil of truth (wow poetic... must be this weed) involving the afore thread-mentioned mythical king arthur, the holy grail (not actually a cup), the knights templar... you can spend a long time tracing these peoples back through time to before ancient egypt and babylonian and sumerian (iraq) times. Why do you think countries like Great (ahem) Britain stomped around the planet destroying cultures and their documented history? ...simply so future generations have more difficulty tracing the roots of the truth. But they didnt destroy all of the cultures and histories (maybe they still need some eh?) and the research can be done. The same people are still in power today and will be until 'the end of days'. Thankyou and Goodnight Peace. The Pagan Scientist :)

Mar 1, 2004, 01:11 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
thepaganscientist Sedimentary Rock Posts: 3	Ive heard of that book. Co-incidentally (is there such a thing?) ...Im listening to an MP3 audiobook called the DaVinci Code by the same author. This one seems to blend truth well with his 'murder' story :) Reveals a lot about DaVinci I didnt know up until hearing it. I recommend this book to and I havent even finished it yet. Thanks for your recommendation too The Pagan Scientist

Mar 1, 2004, 01:13 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
thepaganscientist Sedimentary Rock Posts: 3	incidentally... wasnt 1776 also the year of American Independence?? and co-incidentally (haha) the new World Trade Centre will stand at 1776 metres high. Celebrating Independence Day or the foundation of the Order of Illuminati??? ...the statue of liberty points me in the direction of the latter :) The Pagan Pothead

Mar 1, 2004, 06:10 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,609	Why is it that there are so many conspiracy theories of Great Britain ruling the world in secrecy? Have you been chatting to Peter Angelo (fellow member)? War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Mar 1, 2004, 06:34 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
shunyadragon Hot Lava Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 940	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mathieu,) Fast like that, I think of the urban legend that we use only 10% of our brain . I miss the english to explain why, but I'm sure some people here are willing to do it for me.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> The figure ranges from 10 to 15% and comes from an early research on observing brain activity. That research, of course, is no longer valid, but the myth persists. Seeing the Great Wall and the pyramids from the moon story is probably the greatest April Fool joke in history, because so many people believe it. The empty cup contains the most Frank A Doonan Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk www.shunyadragon.com I do not know, therefore I think . . .

Mar 6, 2004, 03:10 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
gecko Guest Posts: n/a	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Sandy,) when I discovered that I never really believed in the Jesus story but found the old testament "might" be based on true history. What shook me to my boots was when I discovered King Arthur was also a myth. I still hope ancient papers or somekind of proof might just be found to prove that he existed. I even went so far to visit the areas around England where this myth was supposed to happen. The story of Jesus is a myth based on emotions of people who never spent much time giving rational thought to the story. Look at the reaction to "The Passion" that has caused intelligent people to fold under the 75 minutes of pure blood and gore.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> there was a king arthur but he was just a simple chief of a tribe of saxon not quite the legand everyone has heard but genuine nonetheless

Mar 6, 2004, 04:48 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
shunyadragon Hot Lava Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 940	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (gecko,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Sandy,) when I discovered that I never really believed in the Jesus story but found the old testament "might" be based on true history. What shook me to my boots was when I discovered King Arthur was also a myth. I still hope ancient papers or somekind of proof might just be found to prove that he existed. I even went so far to visit the areas around England where this myth was supposed to happen. The story of Jesus is a myth based on emotions of people who never spent much time giving rational thought to the story. Look at the reaction to "The Passion" that has caused intelligent people to fold under the 75 minutes of pure blood and gore.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> there was a king arthur but he was just a simple chief of a tribe of saxon not quite the legand everyone has heard but genuine nonetheless<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> The King Arthur of legend probably was a real person, most likely a Saxon chief. This is even subect to conjecture. The version I have heard recently is he may have been a Roman called Artius or Arthius. I am interested in any sources as to who King Arthur was. The empty cup contains the most Frank A Doonan Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk www.shunyadragon.com I do not know, therefore I think . . .

Mar 6, 2004, 04:52 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
shunyadragon Hot Lava Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 940	Another common urban myth that is subject to debate is did Marco Polo ever get to China and do the things he said he did in China. I believe he did not make it to China. He went to various places in the Arab world and collected stories about China and the silk road. His stories have some inconsistencies that are hard accept. Are there any challengers out there that may want to debate whether Marco Polo really went to China? The empty cup contains the most Frank A Doonan Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk www.shunyadragon.com I do not know, therefore I think . . .

Mar 6, 2004, 09:49 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
gecko Guest Posts: n/a	well arthur was recorded in the roman records. but he was not of roman origin himself, at that time many of the ancestors of modern english race were roman citizens

Mar 7, 2004, 07:44 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
shunyadragon Hot Lava Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 940	Is William Shakespeare a real person or a pen name for an anonymous author. Who would be that author? I will check more on Arthur of legend. The empty cup contains the most Frank A Doonan Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk www.shunyadragon.com I do not know, therefore I think . . .

Mar 7, 2004, 07:32 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
lostkiwi Molten Ash Posts: 60	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (shunyadragon,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mathieu,) Fast like that, I think of the urban legend that we use only 10% of our brain . I miss the english to explain why, but I'm sure some people here are willing to do it for me.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> The figure ranges from 10 to 15% and comes from an early research on observing brain activity. That research, of course, is no longer valid, but the myth persists.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I believe that it is 10 - 15% at any one time. Sure you're using 10% right now but you'll be using other parts later on today. You use all of your brain (hopefully) throughout the day. My favorite Myth right now has to be the crucifixion of Jesus. Aren't movies great. The closest thing we have to truth in the matter is that Jesus was killed by the Romans for the crime of sedition. Everything else is pure conjecture, there were no witnesses to the facts that were sympathetic to Jesus after all.

Mar 8, 2004, 06:01 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	There is that Myth regarding the problems of ecstacy when those reports have now been made invalid and the only known possible harm comes from over heating.

Mar 8, 2004, 06:37 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
shunyadragon Hot Lava Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 940	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (gecko,) well arthur was recorded in the roman records. but he was not of roman origin himself, at that time many of the ancestors of modern english race were roman citizens<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I checked the internet and found a lot of information on www.britannica.com King Arthur does not refer to the name of a real person according to most historians. The earliest person who recorded the history of his time Saint Giles did not mention him. Most historians consider it a legend originating in ballads and oral legends that my refer to another historical figure like the King of the Bretones (Brittones), Riothamus. Many of the lords and rulers at the time of the collapse of the Roman Empire were Romans that kept their power as Rome lost control in the British Isles. The Romans were closer allies of the Brittones than other northern peoples like the Germanic tribes, because they shared many common enemies like the visagothes, Angles and Saxons. The empty cup contains the most Frank A Doonan Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk www.shunyadragon.com I do not know, therefore I think . . .